Independant advice?

[brightmorningstar]

As a follow up to the repeat customers thread, the proposed ammendments to the UK provision of abortion to include independant advice have been challenged by the abortion zealots.

A Guardian newspaper writer couldnt see the claim that the abortion providers did not have a vested interest. How can anm organisation providing abortion and getting revenue from it not have a vested interest in providing abortion.
Seems to be outside reality again. Whilst they might be providing unbiased advice they still have a vested interest by definition.

Whether they are providing unbiased advise is also possible but very questionable as the following must better article reviews..
Abortion charities could be misleading public - Telegraph
ie 'could be'

The country needs to be very concerned about this, folllowing the resistance of these organisations to have statistics published and accusations of 'vengence' against those seeking a better way, ignore the accusations of the liberal abortion fundamenatalists and lets get the best way forward.

Interestingly there is independant advice in Germany where there are half the abortions..
Christian Medical Comment: Germany has independent abortion counseling and an abortion rate less than half of Britain’s

 

[lux et lex]

If it was an independent medical clinic, yes that's fine. But if it's a "clinic" run by religious anti-choice zealots, then no, because they are often full of misinformation, don't have an actual doctor in the place, and are not an independent medical clinic. Anyone can use the title clinic...but they are hardly medical in nature.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Lux et Lex,

If it was an independent medical clinic, yes that's fine. But if it's a "clinic" run by religious anti-choice zealots, then no, because they are often full of misinformation, don't have an actual doctor in the place, and are not an independent medical clinic.

If its an organisation that is not providing the abortion then in that respect it is independant and that is the respect of the bill.

Personally if it is run by what you call religious anti-choice zealots thats a big improvement to the current situation which is being supproted by pro-killing secular liberal zealots.

 

[lux et lex]

Pro killing? LAUGHABLE! Have them go to a regular ob-gyn. A propaganda filled "pro life" clinic isn't worth the building it's occupying.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Pro killing? LAUGHABLE!

Ridiculous, of course it is,

 

[lux et lex]

So you are conceding that your argument is purely manufactured hysteria because no one is actually pro killing? Very good. You are making progress!

 

[brightmorningstar]

Lux et lex,

So you are conceding that your argument is purely manufactured hysteria because no one is actually pro killing?

No I am conceding that your argument is outside reality

Very good. You are making progress!

Obviuosly your thinking and understanding is still outside reality.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

If these clinics are run by "pro-life" people, then the advice given cannot be said to be unbiased.

 

[grasping the after wind]

If these clinics are run by "pro-life" people, then the advice given cannot be said to be unbiased.

Would they be unbiased if run by a) anti-life people b) pro-abortion people c)"pro-choice" people d) anti-abortion people or e) anti-choice people? And state why they would be or not be unbiased.

 

[brightmorningstar]

If these clinics are run by "pro-life" people, then the advice given cannot be said to be unbiased.

on that basis, good, as long as the bias isnt pro-choice.
No, you have not read the discussion properly, there is a priniciple in service provision in the UK that the service provider doesnt also give advice. In the case of the abortion providers they do. This is the change that what is being proposed.