In Your Opinion

[lilouisianagal]

In your opinion what does it take for a person to get into heaven?

 

[Lotar]

Faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Through His grace we are saved.

 

[Reformationist]

In your opinion what does it take for a person to get into heaven?

For a person's sins to be atoned for by Christ.

God bless

 

[SavedByGrace3]

In your opinion what does it take for a person to get into heaven?

Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
His name is Jesus.

 

[SamIAm2]

If you believe in and accept Jesus as your Savior, and follow him.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

For a person's sins to be atoned for by Christ.

God bless

I am curious Ref, would not your response mean that everyone is saved? This in the light of these scriptures:

John 1:29 LITV
29 On the morrow, John sees Jesus coming toward him and said, Behold! The Lamb of God, taking away the sin of the world!

2 Corinthians 5:19 LITV
19 as, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not charging their deviations to them, and having put the Word of reconciliation in us.

1 John 2:2 NASB
2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

Thanks Ref...

 

[Reformed Baptist]

Grace via Faith in Christ.

 

[Reformationist]

I am curious Ref, would not your response mean that everyone is saved? This in the light of these scriptures:

John 1:29 LITV
29 On the morrow, John sees Jesus coming toward him and said, Behold! The Lamb of God, taking away the sin of the world!

2 Corinthians 5:19 LITV
19 as, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not charging their deviations to them, and having put the Word of reconciliation in us.

1 John 2:2 NASB
2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

Thanks Ref...

No. None of those verses mean "the world as a whole." Only those for whom the Lord atoned are/will be saved. All those who are/will be saved are the only ones for whom the Lord atoned. He doesn't lose any.

God bless

 

[SavedByGrace3]

No. None of those verses mean "the world as a whole." Only those for whom the Lord atoned are/will be saved. All those who are/will be saved are the only ones for whom the Lord atoned. He doesn't lose any.

God bless

Ok
Thanks!

 

[wonder111]

what about when Jesus said in the end times, many will call on his name saying they preached and prophesied in his name and he will reply to them "get away from me evildoers, i never knew you" and how come he also said try to go through the narrow gate, many will try but few will enter it??

I'm just curious to know how this ties in?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

what about when Jesus said in the end times, many will call on his name saying they preached and prophesied in his name and he will reply to them "get away from me evildoers, i never knew you" and how come he also said try to go through the narrow gate, many will try but few will enter it??

I'm just curious to know how this ties in?

I am not sure who you are addressing this to wonder111.
This verse refers to people who:
1. Were never saved. (Jesus said "I never knew you")
2. They are saying that they knew Jesus, but were obviously lying, since Jesus said they did not.
3. They were saying this on the day of the Lord when they were being judged. To late.

None of this negates the scripture that says whosoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. In fact, it re-enforces it. These people who were non-believers during life know that the only way people are saved is by envoking the name of Jesus and try to get in by doing so. But to late. They never knew Him in life, and so it is no good lying about it now.

 

[wonder111]

I am not sure who you are addressing this to wonder111.
This verse refers to people who:
1. Were never saved. (Jesus said "I never knew you")
2. They are saying that they knew Jesus, but were obviously lying, since Jesus said they did not.
3. They were saying this on the day of the Lord when they were being judged. To late.

None of this negates the scripture that says whosoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. In fact, it re-enforces it. These people who were non-believers during life know that the only way people are saved is by envoking the name of Jesus and try to get in by doing so. But to late. They never knew Him in life, and so it is no good lying about it now.

thanks didaskalos!

This verse says many things to me

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21-23 this to me says that one must do the will of God in order to enter heaven, no?

Even though these people had heard of Jesus and tried to follow, they fell short. They even performed many miracles and even cast out demons. And Jesus does not deny this fact. Yet He tells them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!”

You say they are liars, but the bible says that He who says*'I know him, and does not keep his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is*not in*him." 1 John 2:4, they must have thought that they knew him because they were performing miracles in His name, but I guess they are liars in the sense that they weren't keeping His commandments, because even the devil believes he is the son of God

Maybe I'm just not getting it,

 

[Serapha]

In your opinion what does it take for a person to get into heaven?

Mercy!


Never ask Christians for an opinion, every has one.

Instead, ask a Christian, "what does the Word of God say?"


Acts 16:30-33
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.


~serapha~

 

[Miss Shelby]

For a person's sins to be atoned for by Christ.

God bless

Is it possible for a person to be one of the elect and die before finding it out, thus never professing Christianity?

Michelle

 

[Reformationist]

Is it possible for a person to be one of the elect and die before finding it out, thus never professing Christianity?

Michelle

No. We don't end up being saved because we "find out" we are one of the elect. We "find out" we are one of the elect because we are saved. God did not just elect some people unto salvation and then sit back hoping things would turn out in a way that those people would be redeemed. On the contrary, it is by God's personal, direct, sovereign intervention that we are brought to a saving knowledge of the Lord. God is not passive with regard to this process. It is the nature of fallen man to gladly and willfully resist the authority of God so if God were to be passive that is exactly what each of us would do. The fact that He is not passive in His application of Christ's atoning sacrifice is the proof to us that we are His children. He irresistably calls forth His own from the fallen. They do respond, no doubt. However, they respond in much the same way that Lazarus responded to the sovereign call of Christ. We come forth, not because we make the conscious decision to do so, though we do make that decision, but, rather, because it is the power of God that compels us. As Lazarus came forth to the call of his Master, so, too, do we come forth. Thanks to that efficacious call from our Creator we are made alive. When we were spiritually dead in our sins our natural response was to seek the lord of the dead, satan. Now that we have been made alive by the power of God Himself our natural response is to seek the Lord of the living, God Himself.

God bless

 

[Reformationist]

Ok
Thanks!

Your welcome.

God bless,
Don

 

[wonder111]

Mercy!


Never ask Christians for an opinion, every has one.

Instead, ask a Christian, "what does the Word of God say?"


~serapha~

unfortunately that doesn't work either. Many people will find other verses that seem to say different or are interpreted differently.

 

[Reformationist]

what about when Jesus said in the end times, many will call on his name saying they preached and prophesied in his name and he will reply to them "get away from me evildoers, i never knew you"

We must take the omniscience of God into account when we address this. Obviously God knows everyone, right. Therefore, it is illogical to believe that Christ was saying that these were people He wasn't aware of. What He was saying was that though they outwardly professed His authority, they did not worship or submit to Him in their hearts (mind, intellect, reasoning, faith, feelings, etc). They did it for their own glory rather than His. In the verse you are referring to, Jesus was saying that He never "knew" them in the sense of one of His beloved.

and how come he also said try to go through the narrow gate, many will try but few will enter it??

This is a clear indication that being a true disciple of Christ is not the result of works but rather of the Lord's blessed atonement. It is not of him who wills, nor him who runs, but of the Lord who has mercy.

God bless

 

[wonder111]

Acts 16:30-33
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.


~serapha~

how does this one work then?

but only he who 'does' the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21-23

and this one
He who says "I know him, and does not keep his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is*not in*him." 1 John 2:4 does this mean if we truly know Him, then it's impossible to break his commandments?

 

[Terri]

what about when Jesus said in the end times, many will call on his name saying they preached and prophesied in his name and he will reply to them "get away from me evildoers, i never knew you" and how come he also said try to go through the narrow gate, many will try but few will enter it??

I'm just curious to know how this ties in?

I believe that these people never put their faith in Christ, but only in their "good" works.

It is only by putting our faith in Jesus' sacrifice alone to save us that we can enter that narrow gate.

Many people will not enter the narrow gate because their pride will not allow them to humble themselves and accept Jesus' sacrifice as the only thing that will save them. They prefer to think that by their works they earn their way to heaven.

What they don't seem to realize is that by earning their way to heaven they are saying that they are equal to God--that they don't need God. Satan has a similar problem!

A while back in this forum I asked people if they died and went to heaven what reason would they give to God that they should be allowed into heaven. These people Jesus is referring to seem to have chosen their works as the reason that they should be allowed into heaven.

Jesus' sacrifice is the only correct answer!!!!!!!!!