In which sense God makes us?

[tonychanyt]

Jeremiah 1:

5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.

God told Jeremiah that He knew him and had a purpose for him even before he was physically formed. God’s knowledge and plan for each person precede their biological existence.

Psalm 139:

13 For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

This passage poetically described God’s intimate involvement in the formation of the psalmist’s body and life. It emphasized that God was actively at work in the womb, shaping each person's DNA.

Job 10:

8 Your hands fashioned and made me... You clothed me with skin and flesh, and knit me together with bones and sinews. You have granted me life and steadfast love, and your care has preserved my spirit.

Job acknowledged that God personally formed him and gave him life, body, and spirit.

How do these verses apply to us? Where do our human spirits come from?

American Standard Version, Ge 2:

7 Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The breath of life comes from the uncreated Spirit of God. When it attaches to our body, we become a living soul. When God withdraws it, we die.

In which sense God made me?

1. In his sovereign power, God determined my DNA.
2. In his omniscience, God knew everything about me.
3. I have the uncreated breath of God in me.
4. I was created in the image of God.

God formed my body, soul, and spirit.

 

[RamiC]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1 1-5 NIV.

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. This is my command: Love each other. John 15 16-17

He made your faith in Him, and your ability to love too.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Jeremiah 1:


God told Jeremiah that He knew him and had a purpose for him even before he was physically formed. God’s knowledge and plan for each person precede their biological existence.

Psalm 139:


This passage poetically described God’s intimate involvement in the formation of the psalmist’s body and life. It emphasized that God was actively at work in the womb, shaping each person's DNA.

Job 10:


Job acknowledged that God personally formed him and gave him life, body, and spirit.

How do these verses apply to us? Where do our human spirits come from?

American Standard Version, Ge 2:


The breath of life comes from the uncreated Spirit of God. When it attaches to our body, we become a living soul. When God withdraws it, we die.

In which sense God made me?

1. In his sovereign power, God determined my DNA.
2. In his omniscience, God knew everything about me.
3. I have the uncreated breath of God in me.
4. I was created in the image of God.

God formed my body, soul, and spirit.

This deals with the sometimes-contradicting (to our minds) Immanence of God. I love the idea of God being so completely involved that if he was not, the particulars (of which the general is made) would cease to exist or to even have ever existed.

I've noticed among the Reformed or Calvinists, one of the general assumptions is of two separate ways:

1) being almost theistic-sounding to me, that God has set things in motion and they continue naturally, though they do cling hard to the idea of God's immanence here too, within "In whom we live and breathe and have our being";

2) being certain things in which he is intimately involved in detailed ways. This would include not only miracle as such, and other interventions, but his personal relationship with his elect, and his common grace, providence and use of every person. (I'm not sure in this if they have thought through the implication that his use of every person isn't so much different from his use of every fact, but...)

To be sure, these are both true, but to me, neither is quite the story, but only a way to look at things. I see no need for a delineation concerning the depth/detail of his involvement in his creation. To me, to imply that his notice of one thing is not so particular as the next denies his omnipotence. But, that's me.