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In What Ways do you Feel the Anointing on a Person?

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John in his first epistle compares the anointing to the indwelling Holy Spirit. So I would say that every believer in anointed in some form or fashion.

Some have a greater anointing than others sure, but each of us is anointed by God through the Holy Spirit.

Sort of like Optimax stated.
 
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It try not to trust feelings much in determining a person or the truth inside them. If i feel joy then that's a good thing but i look for truth and sincerity in a persons heart through their words. I tend to shy away from what people today call the anointing. The anointing to me is the spirit of truth which Jesus promised in John 14. Its a leading of Gods spirit but not necessarily feelings or sensations. Why would one person bring joy by singing a song while another does not? I have felt joy while hearing a recorded hymn but when i hear it again later i dont feel quite the same sensation. Its the same song, same person singing it, but not the same feeling. Im just not sure i would follow this idea of feeling the anointing.

today, preachers self validate by saying in their sermons.."i feel the anointing!":preach:

When they say that, leave the church, and go for a burger!:D
 
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I think i may know the feeling, and if it is the Lord then perhaps we cannot judge a person by that feeling. The anointing is within us not the singer or the speaker that is ministering at the time we feel it..
As i said before though, i just dont feel comfortable following feelings, i follow truth. Maybe this is a mistake on my part, i cant say.

I think that's very good. Those feelings may be good, but don't only go by feelings.
 
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The anointing is NOT a 'feeling' -- it's not "physical" as some in this thread seem to suggest when they tell people to not go by 'feelings'. Sensing something spiritually is not at all the same as feeling something in one's emotions. The bible even tells us that the 'natural man' (the carnal body/feelings/mind) do not understand the things that are spiritual. It is with the SPIRIT-man that we sense the anointing and other spiritual things. So please do not equate "sensing something spiritually" to the natural emotions because they are not the same thing at all! Telling someone to not go with their 'feelings' is a moot-point because we do not sense spiritual things with the 'emotions' -- We sense them with our SPIRIT.

In Luke ch 4 it is told how Jesus went and preached in the synagogue of Nazareth and He read from the scroll of Isaiah - He deliberately chose to read Isaiah 61:1, 2. “The Spirit of the LORD is upon me.”

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God - Rom 8:16
The above verse is a type of sense of the 'anointing'.

But to answer the OP's question, I have experienced a number of different sensations when the anointing comes on me. One type of anointing feels like a deep seated electricity in the core of my being or spirit-man. I will sometimes feel it very strongly during a sermon that is meant for me and I know in my spiritual 'knower' the witness of the Spirit is all over that sermon.

Other times I feel the anointing in WAVES rolling over me.. sometimes it is a healing anointing, but sometimes it is an anointing that teaches me truths.

As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. - 1 John 2:27

I've been learning there are different types of anointing for different things. I am still learning to differentiate between them and their purpose.
 
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Its not what you sense, its what is revealed by the Holy Ghost.

I still don't understand this but over the past decade or so as I read articles about......
or listened to Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper, I would keep thinking of the name "Rehoboam,
Rehoboam, Rehoboam", King of Israel and son of King Solomon.

At the time it didn't make a lot of sense to me.... but by October of 2015... it did
become more obvious.

I was told I have a "mantle of Cyrus"...... I've read Isaiah 45... and I do find this
deeply moving!
 
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This is just to add to my post I made a couple of years ago. I have been hearing and viewing Roberts Liardon on his God's Generals series. It is interesting to see that the anointing these ones had did not consist in emotional or "spiritual" feelings or goosebumps on the spine. The anointing they had was that people got miraculously healed, demons got cast out, and people got saved. This is consistent with the anointing that Jesus spoke about when He read the Scripture in the synagogue (The Spirit of the Lord is upon me...etc.). He did not say that the anointing that was upon Him would be felt by anyone. The anointing, in His view, was the acts of the Holy Spirit in the lives of those He ministered to. It says that Jesus went around doing good, healing all those who were oppressed of the devil. That was the indication He was anointed, not some touchy feely emotion. If a worship group is anointed then, when they are worshiping, people should be getting healed, delivered of demons, and saved. If none of those things are happening, then all they are doing is producing nice music and song to the Lord. There is no evidence that they are anointed in the sense that Jesus or Paul were anointed.

The trouble with a lot of worship in services is that people are using it to work about a set of feelings to make them feel closer to God, instead of spending time at home before the service in prayer actually getting closer to God. If people spent time in prayer before the service and got filled with the Spirit, there wouldn't be a need for a worship group to work up an atmosphere, because the Spirit filled folks would bring the atmosphere in when they entered the building. It is the truly Spirit filled folks in the service who are the atmosphere and not what the worship group are trying to create.

John the Baptist asked if Jesus was the anointed One. Go to Matthew and see what His reply was. It still holds true today for anyone who says they are anointed.
 
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The anointing is NOT a 'feeling' -- it's not "physical" as some in this thread seem to suggest when they tell people to not go by 'feelings'. Sensing something spiritually is not at all the same as feeling something in one's emotions. The bible even tells us that the 'natural man' (the carnal body/feelings/mind) do not understand the things that are spiritual. It is with the SPIRIT-man that we sense the anointing and other spiritual things. So please do not equate "sensing something spiritually" to the natural emotions because they are not the same thing at all! Telling someone to not go with their 'feelings' is a moot-point because we do not sense spiritual things with the 'emotions' -- We sense them with our SPIRIT.

In Luke ch 4 it is told how Jesus went and preached in the synagogue of Nazareth and He read from the scroll of Isaiah - He deliberately chose to read Isaiah 61:1, 2. “The Spirit of the LORD is upon me.”

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God - Rom 8:16
The above verse is a type of sense of the 'anointing'.

But to answer the OP's question, I have experienced a number of different sensations when the anointing comes on me. One type of anointing feels like a deep seated electricity in the core of my being or spirit-man. I will sometimes feel it very strongly during a sermon that is meant for me and I know in my spiritual 'knower' the witness of the Spirit is all over that sermon.

Other times I feel the anointing in WAVES rolling over me.. sometimes it is a healing anointing, but sometimes it is an anointing that teaches me truths.

As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. - 1 John 2:27

I've been learning there are different types of anointing for different things. I am still learning to differentiate between them and their purpose.

The "anointing" you are describing is something that someone somewhere in the Pentecostal or Charismatic movement decided, and not how the Scripture describes it. What you are describing is certainly a witness in the Spirit, there is no doubt about that, but it is not an anointing. An anointing is the bestowal of God's miracle working power to heal, deliver people from demons, bind up the broken hearted, set the captives free, and preach the good news of the kingdom. The anointing is shown through the Holy Spirit working through you to achieve the above. Once through watching a powerful DVD of a healing ministry praying for people, I received a very strong witness in my spirit which produced a high level of faith at that time. I got on CF and imparted healing to as many people as I could while that witness was still powerful in me. When the witness drained away, the motivation for imparting also faded. You see, the witness in my spirit gave me an anointing to do a particular action of faith. That's how we recognise an anointed preacher: people will get saved and healed through his preaching. If those things don't happen, his sermon may be good and uplifting, but not anointed. This is why we should pray fervently and persistently that when we pray for others, preaching, pray for the sick, cast out demons, that we receive the anointing of the Lord so these things actually happen and not have the failures that commonly happen when we try. It is the anointing of the Lord that makes the difference. If I pray for a sick person and they are healed on the spirit then it shows that I am anointed. If I pray for a person and they don't get healed on the spot, I cannot say that I am anointed. That is the difference.
 
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The "anointing" you are describing is something that someone somewhere in the Pentecostal or Charismatic movement decided, and not how the Scripture describes it.
No it's not. I've been taught by the Lord Himself about the anointing and His Spirit. If you think that whenever God showed up and people fell down that there was nothing 'sensed' in their spirit man, you are sorely mistaken.
It is clear that you are attempting to use your carnal mind (which cannot understand spiritual things) to try and explain something which is spiritual. You cannot logicalize or make sense of the anointing or the things of the spirit with your carnal logic and understanding, try as you may.

What you are describing is certainly a witness in the Spirit, there is no doubt about that, but it is not an anointing. An anointing is the bestowal of God's miracle working power to heal, deliver people from demons, bind up the broken hearted, set the captives free, and preach the good news of the kingdom.
Again you are trying to make logical sense with your carnal mind of spiritual things, which is impossible. When the Spirit of the Lord showed up, when spiritual beings showed up, and when Jesus showed up, there were often all kinds of physical manifestations in the humans around them as a result.

That's how we recognise an anointed preacher: people will get saved and healed through his preaching. If those things don't happen, his sermon may be good and uplifting, but not anointed.
There are many people who cast out demons and heal the sick in Jesus' name whom are not anointed at all. God's stamp of approval is not on them. Look at Matt 7:22-23
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

. If I pray for a sick person and they are healed on the spirit then it shows that I am anointed. If I pray for a person and they don't get healed on the spot, I cannot say that I am anointed. That is the difference.
It is the prayer of FAITH that heals the sick -- Jesus was the most annointed man who walked the face of the earth and yet there were towns in which He could do NO MIRACLES at all. So according to your logic you would say Jesus lost His anointing during those times? ..No, brother, Jesus never lost His anointing. The miracles and healings couldn't be done because there was no FAITH in those towns.

These truths prove your theory about the anointing to be incorrect.
 
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No it's not. I've been taught by the Lord Himself about the anointing and His Spirit. If you think that whenever God showed up and people fell down that there was nothing 'sensed' in their spirit man, you are sorely mistaken.

That is not the anointing that Jesus spoke about in the synagogue. It may very well be a work of the Spirit, and then again it could be of the flesh because folks think that they are more spiritual if they fall over. If that is all that happens in church and no one gets saved, healed or delivered, then the church is just a religious club and the anointing is absent.

It is clear that you are attempting to use your carnal mind (which cannot understand spiritual things) to try and explain something which is spiritual. You cannot logicalize or make sense of the anointing or the things of the spirit with your carnal logic and understanding, try as you may.

My views are on the basis of what Jesus said about His anointing. He said nothing about people falling over under any kind of spiritual influence as being an anointing of the Spirit. Some people get so "spiritual" they depend on feelings and impulses and ignore what the written scriptures actually say.

Again you are trying to make logical sense with your carnal mind of spiritual things, which is impossible. When the Spirit of the Lord showed up, when spiritual beings showed up, and when Jesus showed up, there were often all kinds of physical manifestations in the humans around them as a result.

God gave us a brain, and He gave us a book to study. When Jesus made statements, He meant what he said. Some try and see "deeper" meanings in the subtext of Scripture and they miss what is actually being said. We are supposed to accept the obvious meaning of what is written. We are supposed to use our logical minds to determine what is being taught in Scripture. If you read the text of the Gospels, the only physical manifestations that occurred when Jesus showed up were demonic. Other manifestations were that people got healed. No one fell over, except those who came to arrest Jesus, and they were not believers in Him. A lot of the quaking, shaking, jerking and falling over in some churches have no support in Scripture because there was nothing written like that in the book of Acts. I would rather believe what Jesus said about the anointing than anyone else or any inner voice. Jesus did say that the Holy Ghost anointing would teach us all things. So that is another aspect of the anointing. It teaches us about the things of God and leads us into all truth; but that truth has to be totally consistent with teaching that runs through the thread of Old and New Testament Scripture.

There are many people who cast out demons and heal the sick in Jesus' name whom are not anointed at all. God's stamp of approval is not on them. Look at Matt 7:22-23
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

The Scripture you have quoted does not include healing the sick, so that is no included in Jesus' warning. You will notice that these people are saying what they were doing. A truly anointed ministry will point people away from him and direct them to Jesus. They will say that it is Jesus who is doing the work not them. Kathryn Khulman's response to a woman who thanked her for her grandson's healing was. "It wasn't me. I didn't do anything. Jesus did it all. Thank Him." In the reference, Jesus was not talking about born again Christians who are depending on His work on the cross to justify them. Truly anointed ministries will tell the Lord that they did their best for Him and acknowledge that their only qualification for being in the Book of Life was that Jesus died on the cross and shed His blood for them.

It is the prayer of FAITH that heals the sick -- Jesus was the most annointed man who walked the face of the earth and yet there were towns in which He could do NO MIRACLES at all. So according to your logic you would say Jesus lost His anointing during those times? ..No, brother, Jesus never lost His anointing. The miracles and healings couldn't be done because there was no FAITH in those towns.

There is no measure of anointing. A person is either anointed or not. Anointing is authority to do something. An anointed ministry of healing has the authority of God to do the work and the Holy Spirit recognises that authority and works through him to accomplish God's purpose for the anointing. It is true that Jesus had the Spirit without measure, therefore His anointing was more extensive. Yet He said that the works He did we would do, even greater works. So Jesus can anoint a person to do greater works than Jesus did! But the anointed person has to remain humble. Moses failed to get to the Promised land because he struck the rock instead of speaking to it. Then he said, "Look at what Jehovah and I can do!" Because he included himself, he missed out, because he tried to share God's glory. The ones whom Jesus will reject are those who attempt to share His glory in what they do for Him.

These truths prove your theory about the anointing to be incorrect.

You have failed to show me through appropriate Scripture that my theory is incorrect. I have shown through direct Scripture that it is correct. You need to show more applicable Scripture to support your view. :)
 
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You have failed to show me through appropriate Scripture that my theory is incorrect. I have shown through direct Scripture that it is correct. You need to show more applicable Scripture to support your view. :)
While I agree with a few things you've stated, I disagree still with a lot.

The word of God is refined 7 times and there are many layers upon layers of revelation in it. If the only interpretation and meaning to scripture in your opinion is the 'literal' one you are missing out on some very deep mysteries. You certainly cannot take the entire bible literally. The book of Revelation as well as so much in all the scriptures must be revealed by the Holy Spirit - NOT by the natural mind. If you believe scripture literally then you also believe these verses in 2 Cor:

And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God

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God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God

The brain is only of use for certain things -- the understanding of spiritual things including the anointing, the power of God and miracles, healings, etc is done through the SPIRIT of a man which is united with the Spirit of the Lord. Only by accessing truth through Him can you understand scripture. Your carnal mind will interpret it wrong except on the most basic literal level. You will not be able to see the deeper mysteries revealed until you have exercised and practised such discerning

But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil. Heb 5:14
We see in the verse above that these are SPIRITUAL senses -- they have nothing to do with the carnal mind -- Spiritual things require the spirit man which has come to a level of maturity to discern & differentiate properly. You cannot do it with your 'brain'.

Jesus didn't have to TALK about people falling down under the power = The bible is full of it happening. It happened when Jesus showed up, it happened when angels showed up, and it happened when the Lord Himself showed up. You will have a hard time trying to deny that.

I am not a proponent of "falling down" or doing anything to "look spiritual" such as talk excessively about my prophetic gifting. I have personally never fallen under the power nor had any inclination to do so... but just because I have never fallen does not mean it doesn't happen. I certainly DO sense the Spirit and the anointing when it is present. If you cannot sense the Spirit of God when He is present I honestly am baffled. Since you confessed in another thread that the chances of your prophetic words being truly from God or from your mind is 50/50, this makes me wonder what's going on. You should get before the Lord and ask Him.
 
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I appreciate the diverse opinions, and perspective.

For the most part you have gotten, surprisingly to me, some good down to earth advice on this, but I have a feeling that won't last, so soak it up while you can. :)
 
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While I agree with a few things you've stated, I disagree still with a lot.

I don't doubt it. If we all agreed with each other, this would be a boring forum.

The word of God is refined 7 times and there are many layers upon layers of revelation in it. If the only interpretation and meaning to scripture in your opinion is the 'literal' one you are missing out on some very deep mysteries. You certainly cannot take the entire bible literally. The book of Revelation as well as so much in all the scriptures must be revealed by the Holy Spirit - NOT by the natural mind. If you believe scripture literally then you also believe these verses in 2 Cor:

And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God

We have to remember that these words were spoken when there was no compiled New Testament. In this reference Paul is talking about people preaching stuff with no anointing. All they were peddling were words, and those words were not backed up with demonstration of the power of the Holy Spirit. The reference does not support that we should look into some type of subtext in the Scripture and see things other than what was actually written. When Paul talked about the wisdom of man, he was talking about the unbelieving wisdom of the Greeks who believed that the preaching of the Cross of Christ was foolishness. The wisdom of man was contained in Greek philosophy in the days of Paul, and other non-Christian philosophy bandied around today. Evolution is one example of the wisdom of man that is opposed to the Word of God. Furthermore, when Paul referred to the wisdom of man, he was describing his own preaching, not the beliefs of the Corinthians.

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God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God

This reference doesn't support into trying to delve into some mysterious subtext of Scripture either. Remember that this is in the early days of the Church when the Holy Spirit was teaching newly converted pagans the things of God.

The brain is only of use for certain things -- the understanding of spiritual things including the anointing, the power of God and miracles, healings, etc is done through the SPIRIT of a man which is united with the Spirit of the Lord. Only by accessing truth through Him can you understand scripture. Your carnal mind will interpret it wrong except on the most basic literal level. You will not be able to see the deeper mysteries revealed until you have exercised and practised such discerning

This is the way we should interpret the Bible. There are some things written for us, that is, for our education, and others that are written to us for our instruction. The first step is to study what the Bible is actually saying through its literal text. We gain a deeper understanding through the study of the history and culture of the time and look at the similarities and differences between those cultures and ours. Most of the book of 1 John was written to counter the heresy of the Gnostics. Knowing that gives a deeper understanding of what John is saying in his book. There is so much in the literal Scriptures to study that you could take the rest of your life to study it and not have enough time to try and delve into some non-existent subtext. God means what He says literally. Jesus said if it were not so, He would have told us. Jesus spoke straight out to the Jews, but they were so steeped in their religiousity that they could not understand or access what He was saying.

But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil. Heb 5:14
We see in the verse above that these are SPIRITUAL senses -- they have nothing to do with the carnal mind -- Spiritual things require the spirit man which has come to a level of maturity to discern & differentiate properly. You cannot do it with your 'brain'.

Take a passage of Scripture and prove your theory by giving me your spiritual interpretation of it. I need to see more clearly what you are meaning by putting aside the carnal mind and looking deeper into the spiritual meaning of the scripture.

Jesus didn't have to TALK about people falling down under the power = The bible is full of it happening. It happened when Jesus showed up, it happened when angels showed up, and it happened when the Lord Himself showed up. You will have a hard time trying to deny that.

Where? I don't see it in the gospels or the Acts. I see John falling at Jesus's feet in Revelation, but that was a one-time event and not a common event among the Christians of his time. Whenever anyone fell down to worship an angel, the angel told him to get up again and not to worship him. There is nothing in Scripture that matches the Charismatic way of being slain in the Spirit.

I am not a proponent of "falling down" or doing anything to "look spiritual" such as talk excessively about my prophetic gifting. I have personally never fallen under the power nor had any inclination to do so... but just because I have never fallen does not mean it doesn't happen. I certainly DO sense the Spirit and the anointing when it is present. If you cannot sense the Spirit of God when He is present I honestly am baffled. Since you confessed in another thread that the chances of your prophetic words being truly from God or from your mind is 50/50, this makes me wonder what's going on. You should get before the Lord and ask Him.

For me, the evidence of the presence of the Holy Spirit will be that people are saved, healed and delivered of demons. That was what happened in the gospels in the presence of Jesus, and in the Book of Acts in the presence of Paul and Peter. There is no evidence in the gospels or Acts where people felt the Spirit in their emotions or that they trembled, quaked, fell down, or anything else under the influence of the Spirit. To convince me otherwise you need to quote actual New Testament scripture that clearly shows it, not other scriptures that don't directly relate to it.
 
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today, preachers self validate by saying in their sermons.."i feel the anointing!":preach:

True, and it can get way out of hand. they do that because of this:

If people are looking for emotions and feelings, the devil is always there to give it to them to get their minds on themselves and away from Christ.

So we have preachers that claim it and congregations that expect it. They want to feel and see the sensation of so-called extra power/extraordinary anointing, and some actually do see it, and not because it's there, but because they want to.
 
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A person in this thread made comments about Roberts Liardon. I would remind that person that when King Saul committed suicide, David went to great lengths to keep the manner of Saul's death secret. He did not want to tarnish Saul's reputation because he honoured the anointing that God gave Saul to be king of Israel. David did not want to have Saul disgraced by having his suicide gossiped around Israel. I think that one of the great failings of the church and which has quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit in most places, is the gossiping and repeating of scandals concerning prominent ministries when they make mistakes or fail. There is a truth in the saying, "touch not the Lord's anointed". We are all human and subject to error, because we have the truth in earthen vessels. Every prominent ministry has made mistakes and fallen short of the ideal, but God has continued His anointing and not taken His calling from them. What has destroyed these ministries is the gossiping and spreading of information among Christians when people should have been discreet and allowed time and space for the preacher to repent and get back on the path. It is the inappropriate gossiping that has destroyed good ministries when God would have wanted to restore them. It doesn't matter is the information is true. Saul's suicide was true, but David suppressed it so that Saul would be honoured as the Lord's anointed. It is no surprise that many churches have just words with no evidence of the power of the Holy Spirit in them. Their gossiping words against good ministries have kept the Holy Spirit from their services. Those who gossip about prominent ministries when they fail could be playing into the hands of a gossiping demon and partnering with it to destroy that ministry.
 
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