In This Thread: replacements for "cisgender"

[rambot]

just call it homogendered. How could that cause a problem?

 

[lasthero]

Cisgender is said to be identification for those that are the opposite of Transgender. Cisgender is a made up word to make a parallel to those who are male or female both biologically and emotionally.

All words are made up words.

 

[lasthero]

Are we not being told what we can say and not say?

No. No, you're not.

 

[lasthero]

I understand that "abnormal" has negative connotations to it, but it is absolutely not "normal" to not be cisgender. That's just a fact

No, it's not.

Normal is a subjective term. There's no inarguable, undeniable list of things things that are and are not normal. Whether something is normal or not is pretty much up to your perspective.

 

[SkyWriting]

So... have at it. What term should we be using to describe people whose gender aligns with their sex if not "cisgendered"?

Not transgender is accurate.

 

[lasthero]

Cisgender is a made up word.

As is every word you've ever spoken.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Here is a thought.

A male who identifies himself as male. Could be called.

A man

A female who identifies herself as a female could be called.

A woman

 

[Cute Tink]

Ah, my mistake; I thought "cisgendered" was the adjective.

It's a very common misunderstanding.

 

[Cute Tink]

It occurs to me that, if you hate the term "cisgender" so much, we could always call you "average" instead.

Or how about "typical"?

 

[SepiaAndDust]

As someone else pointed out, all words are made up. They are made up to define concepts more simply. It's a fact of life.

Language is defined by those who use the language. Cisgender is as valid a word as any other, but it's a new word. Nobody is under any obligation to add it to their vocabulary.

I reject it (mostly because I don't like the cis- prefix, and because I'm not a fan of labels, generally), but only time will tell whether it becomes accepted. Check back in fifty years or so.

 

[nightflight]

It occurs to me that, if you hate the term "cisgender" so much, we could always call you "average" instead.

Or how about "typical"?

Those are fine, if they are used accurately.

 

[grandvizier1006]

Gender-typical? Like neurotypical. (I mean this as a legitimate alternative).

For one thing, "cis" just sounds too cold and scientific. And a lot of people can have a "gender expression" that's "different from their gender", if I understand it correctly, while not actually being transgendered. Like an "effeminate" man, for example, or a drag queen, or just a number of people who a don't have the looks or mindset of a sexy model. It lumps 99% of the population into one group.

And the reason why cis is disliked is because liberals very often come across as condescending when they insist on correcting other people's word usage. People who try to control language by having designated terms for everything just seem too Orwellian, although the purpose is different. Furthermore, it also makes liberalism look weak because in order to anger them all you have to do is use an "offensive" word like "normal". I think it's incredibly childish that everybody takes words too seriously, whether it's racial slurs, "micro-aggressive" words, etc., or just insults to the Christian faith.

 

[Cute Tink]

The term cisgendered is designed to replace the terms man and woman

That's not workable actually. Cisgender doesn't define you as male or female, so it cannot replace those terms.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

When you aren't transgender you tend to not even think about your gender identity, so why should I call myself anything other than a man if I am one and think I am one? Why should I have somebody call me different than the obvious? Transgenders are called that because a woman who thinks she is a man makes a murky topic to identifying their sex so we refer to them as transgender I thought. Its a neutral term.

 

[seashale76]

What is normative doesn't need to be doggedly defined every time with a special term. Generally, it's the deviations from the norm that need the special terms and clarifications.

ETA: As being 'cisgendered' is the norm, it doesn't need to be pointed out.

 

[SepiaAndDust]

Being called cisgender is no different than being called white, black, Asian, human, male, female, American, Christian, Muslim, etc. It merely describes a part of you.

What if I don't like the term they chose for me? No different than being called redneck, negro, oriental, etc.

 

[Chesterton]

Being called cisgender is no different than being called white, black, Asian, human, male, female, American, Christian, Muslim, etc. It merely describes a part of you. Rest assured, however, that you are unlikely to be called "cisgender" on a regular basis.

You simply don't define things by what they're not. I can conceive of situations where I might need to be identified by a characteristic such as white or American, but people don't identify people by the lack of a characteristic, which is what the word is trying to do.

"Hey, meet my friend Ches! Lemme tell you a little about him: he's not a Democrat, he doesn't work as a doctor, and in his spare time he's an avid non-jogger. Oh and he also doesn't feel like a woman in his mind."

You mean when things aren't how they are supposed to be, there is a sense that there is a problem? I wonder if there's a group of people who can empathize with that sense...

That's what I hear.

 

[The Cadet]

When you aren't transgender you tend to not even think about your gender identity, so why should I call myself anything other than a man if I am one and think I am one? Why should I have somebody call me different than the obvious?

Because the bolded is a problem.

 

[lasthero]

You simply don't define things by what they're not.

Of course we do.

People without a belief in god(s) are atheists.

People without hair are bald.

People without sight or hearing are blind and deaf.

People without jobs are unemployed.

So forth and so on...

 

[seashale76]

Because the bolded is a problem.

Codswallop. It isn't a problem. It's normal not to think about your identity.