In The Beginning...

[Asavedo]

What is the traditional Pentecostal teaching on why God even made man? What was our "purpose", if you will, before sin ever entered into the world? Why were we put here? What would we have done all day had sin not entered into the world through Adam? Please, if you can, I'd love the scripture referrences to your replies too. Thanx for any and all thoughts ahead of time...

 

[Trish1947]

What is the traditional Pentecostal teaching on why God even made man? What was our "purpose", if you will, before sin ever entered into the world? Why were we put here? What would we have done all day had sin not entered into the world through Adam? Please, if you can, I'd love the scripture referrences to your replies too. Thanx for any and all thoughts ahead of time...

Well as I understand it, He made Adam and Eve and placed them in a garden (a sort of Heaven). And God told him to tend it. And God would come down in the cool of the day, and talk to them.. So we we're to be gardeners to make it beautiful, that had visits from God every evening. And I think they would have multiplied their kind even there. There was no separation from God. No harm there, perfection, love. So I would say our purpose that God made us was to have fellowship with God. As it the purpose of mankind today. Sorry, I have no scriptures at my locale.

 

[Andry]

Welcome to CF.

I've posted this previously, so my apologies to those who've read it.

Gen 2:4-5
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.

When the Lord God made the earth and the heavens and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground,

Gen 2:6-7
6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground 7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Now we get a bit more information about what’s going on.

Gen 2:8
Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden;

So I just want to link those two things together. From verse 5 ….. and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up …. this is in the earth in general, but the Lord had planted a Garden in the east, in Eden, ….. and there he put the man he had formed.

So he formed the man and He put him into the Garden. then in verse 15 …. the LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.

Let me give an appraisal of what we have here: God makes the earth, and in the earth he makes a Garden, in the garden he causes trees to grow, he makes it a fruitful, wonderful place, but outside of the boundaries of the garden - and we know there were boundaries because when Adam and Eve sinned and refused to repent, it says God put them out of the Garden and guarded the entrance with a flaming sword – was a place of incredible bareness.

So we have a different situation outside the Garden than we have inside the Garden. We have a place of incredible fruitfulness and we have a place of incredible bareness, for no shrub of the field had yet sprung up, and no plant of the field had yet grown, because of two things: rain had not come on the land, and there was no man to work the ground. So when God finished creating the earth, the outside of the Garden was not the same as the inside. But in verse 5 God gives us insight into the purpose of Adam’s life. There was no man to till the ground. And without that man, the ground outside of the Garden was still barren.

Our purpose in life, is to partner with God, to reproduce the fruitfulness of the Garden in the bareness of the earth.

That’s why Jesus said that we were to pray ‘and may Your Kingdom come, and may Your will be done, here on earth – in the bareness of the earth, the same as it is in heaven – in the fruitfulness of heaven.’ So our role was to take the fruitfulness of heaven, and apply that fruitfulness into the bareness of the earth, so that the earth becomes the same as the heaven.

And that mandate hasn't changed.

 

[Asavedo]

Welcome to CF.

I've posted this previously, so my apologies to those who've read it.

Gen 2:4-5
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.

When the Lord God made the earth and the heavens and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground,

Gen 2:6-7
6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground 7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Now we get a bit more information about what’s going on.

Gen 2:8
Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden;

So I just want to link those two things together. From verse 5 ….. and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up …. this is in the earth in general, but the Lord had planted a Garden in the east, in Eden, ….. and there he put the man he had formed.

So he formed the man and He put him into the Garden. then in verse 15 …. the LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.

Let me give an appraisal of what we have here: God makes the earth, and in the earth he makes a Garden, in the garden he causes trees to grow, he makes it a fruitful, wonderful place, but outside of the boundaries of the garden - and we know there were boundaries because when Adam and Eve sinned and refused to repent, it says God put them out of the Garden and guarded the entrance with a flaming sword – was a place of incredible bareness.

So we have a different situation outside the Garden than we have inside the Garden. We have a place of incredible fruitfulness and we have a place of incredible bareness, for no shrub of the field had yet sprung up, and no plant of the field had yet grown, because of two things: rain had not come on the land, and there was no man to work the ground. So when God finished creating the earth, the outside of the Garden was not the same as the inside. But in verse 5 God gives us insight into the purpose of Adam’s life. There was no man to till the ground. And without that man, the ground outside of the Garden was still barren.

Our purpose in life, is to partner with God, to reproduce the fruitfulness of the Garden in the bareness of the earth.

That’s why Jesus said that we were to pray ‘and may Your Kingdom come, and may Your will be done, here on earth – in the bareness of the earth, the same as it is in heaven – in the fruitfulness of heaven.’ So our role was to take the fruitfulness of heaven, and apply that fruitfulness into the bareness of the earth, so that the earth becomes the same as the heaven.

And that mandate hasn't changed.

Fascinating... much to ponder... thanx.

 

[enoch son]

This is all find and good but the example on fellowship is not Adam but Jesus. If you can not see the eternal purpose of man in Jesus then I say the chruch has failed.

 

[Victory_by_Jesus]

to procrate the earth and thus multply heaven.... this is one explnation i heard

 

[adamdavid]

procrate the earth and thus multply heaven.... this is one explnation i heard

Okay, no offense if you happen to believe this, but I'm just gonna say the first thing that came to mind when I read this... HOW DUMB!!! Had God just wanted more space filler up in heaven, he could have easily just spoken it... he didn't have to go through a multi-thousand year ordeal involving much weeping and the death of his only son just to have more minions giving him glory in the land up yonder... that just doesn't make sense...
That being said, I have no real comprehension of why he would do something as dumb (in my mind... obviously his logic differs from mine... which is a good thing... theres a reason I'm not in charge of the universe ) as creating a new speices of life-form that ends up blatently disobeying and mocking him, and yet, in His infinite mercy, he allows to have a second chance... and even after that second chance, countless still blow it and end up having to be thrown into hell anyways... If I were God, I can't even begin to tell you how many economy-sized bottles of asprin I would consume on an hourly basis... and yet, he did it... I dont understand it, but He did it anyways.... The way I see it, that act of love and grace just isn't comprehendable to the miniscule human brain... so, I leave it at that... God is God, and theres an obvious reason I dont understand everything he does - Isaiah 55:8,9

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Thats where I stop thinking about it... It just doesnt make sense to me, so I leave it to the one it does make sense to...
Blessings...
AdamDavid