In the beginning was Prajapati, the Brahman...

[*Starlight*]

Hello

Here's a verse from the Vedas which I've read recently in some thread here and one another website, and which really interested me:

"Prajapati vai idam agre aseet

Tasya vag dvitiya aseet

Vag vai paramam Brahman"

and the translation was:

"In the beginning was Prajapati, the Brahman

With whom was the Word

And the Word was the Supreme Brahman"

Can someone tell me where exactly in the Vedas that verse is?

I'm really curious about it, because that verse is almost exactly like one very well known Bible verse...

And one more question... What is Prajapati?

 

[Abdurrahim]

Many similarities between different religions prove that G-d has sent messengers with their teaching to each community and most religions are changed versions of the same teaching of G-d.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Many similarities between different religions prove that G-d has sent messengers with their teaching to each community and most religions are changed versions of the same teaching of G-d.

Only One was prophecied by God to come in the Christ-ian OT/NC to the Abrahamic religions of Judais, Islam and Christianity, Jesus. The Koran says muhammad is the one, thus, making the God of the OT/OC to be a LIAR.

Romans 11:6 and so all Israel shall be saved, according as it hath been written, `There shall come forth out of Sion he who is delivering, and he shall turn away impiety from Jacob, 27 and this to them [is] the covenant from Me, when I may take away their sins.'

(Young) Isaiah 27:9 Therefore by this is the iniquity of Jacob covered, And this [is] all the fruit--To take away his sin, in His setting all the stones of an altar, As chalkstones beaten in pieces, They rise not--shrines and images.

Isaiah 59:20 And come to Zion hath a redeemer, Even to captives of transgression in Jacob, An affirmation of Jehovah. 21 And I--this [is] My covenant with them, said Jehovah, My Spirit that [is] on thee, And My words that I have put in thy mouth, Depart not from thy mouth, And from the mouth of thy seed, And from the mouth of thy seed's seed, said Jehovah, From henceforth unto the age!

Jerem 31:33 For this [is] the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people. 34 And they do not teach any more Each his neighbour, and each his brother, Saying, Know ye Jehovah, For they all know Me, from their least unto their greatest, An affirmation of Jehovah; For I pardon their iniquity, And of their sin I make mention no more.

 

[Abdurrahim]

Prophet Muhammad foretold in Hindu scriptures as well.

Important religious books of India mention the guide and prophet by the specific name of "Kalki Autar" it denotes the great man Muhammed (saw) who was born in Makkah. Hence, all Hindus where-ever they may be, should wait no longer for any other 'kalik autar' but to embrace Islam and follow in the footsteps of the last Messenger of Allah (swt) who was sent in the world about fourteen hundred years ago with a mission from Him and after accomplishing it has long ago departed this world. As an argument to prove the authenticity of his research, Pundit Vaid Parkash quotes from the Veda, a sacred book among Hindus:

1. Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be the last Messenger/Prophet of Bhagwan (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer quoting this reference the Pundit Parkash says that this comes true only in the case of Muhammed (saw).

2. According to a prophecy of Hinduism, 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab'.

3. In the 'sacred' book of Hindus the father's name of 'kalki autar' is mentioned as 'Vishnu Bhagat' and his mother's name as 'somanib'. In sanskrit, 'vishnu' stands for Allah (swt) and the literal meaning of 'bhagat' is slave.

'Vishnu Bhagat' therefore, in the Arabic language will mean Allah's slave (Abdullah). 'Somanib' in Sanskrit means peace and tranquilty which in arabic is denoted by the word 'Amina'. Whereas the last Messenger Muhammed's (saw) father and mother's names were Abdullah and Amina respectively.

4. In the big books of Hindus, it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. In this regard Pundit Parkash writes, "This is true and established only in the case of Muhammed (saw)".

5. Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be born in the respected and noble dynasty of his land. And this is also true as regards Muhammed (saw) as he was born in the respected tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah.

6. 'Kalki Autar' will be taught in the cave by Bhagwan through his own messenger. And it is very true in this matter. Muhammed (saw) was the only one person in Makkah who has taught by Allah's Messenger Gabriel in the cave of Hira.

7. It is written in the books which Hindus believe that Bhagwan will provide 'Kalki autar' with the fastest of a horse and with the help of which he will ride around the world and the seven skies/heavens. The riding on 'Buraq' and 'Meraj' by the Prophet Muhammed (saw) proves what?

8. It is also written in the Hindus' books that 'kalki autar' will be strengthened and heavily helped by Bhagwan. And we know this fact that Muhammed (saw) was aided and reinforced by Allah (swt) through His angels in the battle of Badr.

9. Hindus' books also mention that 'kalki autar' will be an expert in horse riding, arrow shooting, and swordsmanship. What Pundit Vaid Parkash comments in this regard is very important and worth attention and consideration. He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Prophet Muhammad foretold in Hindu scriptures as well.

But muhammad wasn't the one prophecied in the OT.

Romans 11:6 and so all Israel shall be saved, according as it hath been written, `There shall come forth out of Sion he who is delivering, and he shall turn away impiety from Jacob, 27 and this to them [is] the covenant from Me, when I may take away their sins.'

(Young) Isaiah 27:9 Therefore by this is the iniquity of Jacob covered, And this [is] all the fruit--To take away his sin, in His setting all the stones of an altar, As chalkstones beaten in pieces, They rise not--shrines and images.

Isaiah 59:20 And come to Zion hath a redeemer, Even to captives of transgression in Jacob, An affirmation of Jehovah. 21 And I--this [is] My covenant with them, said Jehovah, My Spirit that [is] on thee, And My words that I have put in thy mouth, Depart not from thy mouth, And from the mouth of thy seed, And from the mouth of thy seed's seed, said Jehovah, From henceforth unto the age!

Jerem 31:33 For this [is] the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people. 34 And they do not teach any more Each his neighbour, and each his brother, Saying, Know ye Jehovah, For they all know Me, from their least unto their greatest, An affirmation of Jehovah; For I pardon their iniquity, And of their sin I make mention no more.

 

[Abdurrahim]

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=275


Very clear prophecies.

PROPHECY OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN HINDU SCRIPTURES
The Quran informs us that, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is not only Warner for one nation but, for the whole mankind, it further informs that, the prophecy of Muhammad (PBUH) was foretold in the previous Scriptures revealed on different nations.

* " Blessed is He who has sent down the Criterion to His worshiper (Prophet Muhammad), that he is a Warner to all mankind." (25:1)

* "We sent thee not but as a Mercy for all the creatures" (21:107)

* "We sent thee not but as a bringer of good tidings and a Warner unto all mankind."(34:28)

* "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel". (7.157)

According to Hindu belief an Avtar is going to appear in the future, who will be the final Avtar and he will be bless for all mankind and kill the evil. There are several indications and specifications have been predicted and mentioned about the Avtar. And all these specifications and indications 100% fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). No other Avtar in the future can be fit on these specifications, because all the incidents which have been mentioned about the coming of Avtar have already been passed through with the life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). So these incidents cannot be repeat again. So it is useless to wait for the Avtar in the future. Following, are some of the major details of Kalki Avtar with the detail reference from the life history of Prophet Muhammd (PBUH).

NAME OF KALKI AVTAR
* According to Kalki Puran the name of Kalki Avtar will be "SARWANAMA".

The meaning of "ANAMA" is praised one and "SARW" mean most of all, so "Sarwanama" means the most praised one and in Arabic language "Muhammad " has the same meaning, if we translate Sanskrit word Sarwanama in to Arabic language it will be "Muhammad" only difference is the language.

PARENTS OF KALKI AVTAR
* "He will be born from "SOOMATI" and his father's name will be "VAISHNUVESH"." (Kalki Puran 2, Shloka II)

VAISHNUVESH and SOOMATI means servant of God (the cherisher) and peace, respectively. Prophet Muhammad father's name was ABDULLAH in Arabic language, which means God's servant, and his mother's name was AMINA in Arabic language, which means peace, so if we translate Sanskrit word "Vaishnuvesh & Soomati" in Arabic language it will be "Abdullah & Amina". So again the difference of language.

PLACE OF BIRTH
* "HE will be born at "SHAMBAL GARAM" in VAISHNUVESH'S Brahmin Mahant's (religious saint) respectable house" (Bhagwat Puran, Khand 12, Shloka 18 and Kalki Puran Adhay 2, Shloka 4)

SHAMBAL mean peace and GARAM mean city or village, so SHAMBAL GARAM means a peace full city or city of peace, and this quality & name has been specified only for Arabia's city "MAKKAH" no other city in the world has been named city of peace. In the Holy Quran this city has been called as "ALBALAD ALAMEEN" which mean peace full city or city of peace. For reference see Holy Quran (14:35) O God, make it (Makkah) a City of Peace". And Makkah is the city where prophet Muhammad (PBUH) born.

VAISHNU-VESH, Vaishnu is actually God's name and VESH means servant or BHAGAT and man, Vaishnuvesh mean God's servant or God's devotee and in Arabic language ABDULLAH has the same meanings.

BRAHMIN MAHANT mean religious saint and Makkah's religious and respectable saint was "Hasham", then "Mutlib", then Hasham's son "Abdul Mutlib" became the religious saint of Makkah, who was the grand father of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and during the period of religious saint Muhammad was born in home of Abdullah son of Abdul Mutlib. In short, Muhammad was born in the respectable tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah. So according to scripture Kalki Avtar will be born in Brahmin Mahant's (religious saint) respectable family.

DATE OF BIRTH OF KALKI AVTAR
* He will be born in the month of Bisakh on 12th day (Kalki Puran Adhay 2, Shloka 15)

Baisakh is famous month in Hindi, which is still known with this name. According to Hindi calendar Muhammad was born on 12th Baisakh of 628 Bakrami, and this day according to Arabic calendar is 12th Rabiyyyul Awwal. So the date of birth matches with Kalki Avtar.

THE PERIOD OF KALKI AVTAR
* Kalki Avtar would ride horse, camel and keep the sword to kill the devil and enemies of religion.

It mean that Kalki Avtar will be born in the past time when horse and camel were used for riding and sword was being used for fight. And in this period and in the coming future people will use cars, train & planes for riding and guns, missiles will be use for fighting. So it is now useless to wait for Avtar in future. We should not forget that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was borne during the time of horse & camel, and he fought with sword during battles against infidels.

DEATH OF KALKI AVTAR'S PARENTS
* Kalki Avtar's Father will die before his birth and his Mother will die after few years of his birth. (Kalki Puran, Bhaghwat Puran Khand 12)

These two indications clearly fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). His Father died few days earlier of his birth and his Mother died when Muhammad was only six year old. For reference please study the life history of prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

KALKI AVTAR WILL GET WISDOM ON A MOUNTAIN
* According to Kalki Puran, the Kalki Avtar will receive wisdom or knowledge on a mountain's cave from PERSHURAM (angle).

As every one knows that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was busy in his pray in a cave of mountain "HIRA" and there one day an Angle (Gabriel) appeared and brought the first revelation from God. For reference Holy Quran (96:1) "Read (Prophet Muhammad) with the name of Allah" and he replied " I am not learned" the same indication was given in the Christian's scripture (Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12) " and the book delivered to him that is not learned, saying " Read this", I pray thee: and he said, I am not learned", this is another prove of his prophecy. So prophet Muhammad received his first revelation in the cave of mountain HIRA. And this prediction also fit on him.

PREACHING, IRRITATION, MIGRATION AND RETURN TO HIS CITY
* It is further written in the kalki Puran that " Kalki avtar will start his preaching from the city SHAMBHAL GARAM (Makkah: city of peace) which is situated in SALAM DEEP (Jazeeratul Arab), but people of that city will be against him and irritate him, so he will migrate to another city (Madina) which will be covered with mountains. Then after few years, he will be returned to his city with sword and conquer the city and the whole country."

This prediction also fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). He started his preaching from Makkah (city of peace), which is situated in Jazeeratul Arab (salam deep), when people of Makkah tried to irritate him he migrated towards the city covered with mountains (Madina) with his companions. And after few years he came back with sword and his 10,000 companions and conquered the city Makkah and after that the whole Arab. For reference please study life history of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and this incidence is famous with the name of " Fateh Makkah" in the Islamic history.

A FLYING HORSE FROM GOD
* He will receive a flying horse from God, which will be faster than lightning. Riding it he will go around earth and seven skies" (Bhagwat Puran Khand 12, Adhay 2, Shloka19-20)

This prediction is about Kalki Avtar also match with the Incidence of "MIRAJ" For reference see Holy Quran (17.1) and for detail Hadith s of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) regarding Incidence of Miraj. According to these references Prophet Muhammad traveled the seven skies and there he met with previous Prophets, and for this God gave him a horse name BARQ which mean lightning and word Miraj mean height and ladder. Please study life history of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) for details.

SPLITTING OF MOON
* According to the scripture Kalki Avtaar will split the moon.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) showed this miracle 1,400 ago. For reference see Holy Quran (54:1-3) "The hour drew night and moon rend (split) in twain ..." For more details about moon splitting please study the hadiths of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) (Volume 4, book 56, number 830-832 and volume 5, book 58, number 209-211) According to these hadiths" the people of Makkah asked Allah's Apostle to show a miracle (sign of his Prophecy). So he showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram Mountain"

There is an interesting tradition in India. Bhoj was an Indian king, there is still city Bhoj on his name in the territory of Kachh (Gujrat). Raja was born after so many years of Bhavish Puran during the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). One night he saw moon splitting in two, he asked the Pundits, they studied the Vedas and Puranas, and told the king that this is the miracle of last prophet, when king asked the signs or descriptions of the Prophet, they told," He will be from the city of peace (Makkah) and will be born in the house of a religious saint, his name will be "Narashansah" (praise one: Muhammad in Arabic), he will have four Khulafa and have 12 wifes ". In search of Narashansah, he came to know that he appeared in Makkah. He met with him and embraced Islam at the hand of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and prophet gave him the name Abdullah, when he came back to home his family did not accept him. He spend his whole life in remembering Prophet and in worship of one God. For reference (Dr. Kamala Kant Tewari's book "Kalyuge Ke Antim Rishi" Page5, he took this from Pundit Dharm Ved Apadhye's book "Antim Ishwar Doot" page 97). So Raja was the first Indian who embraced Islam.

ANGELS WILL HELP HIM DURING WAR
* Kalki Avtar will be helped by angels during war. (Kalki Puran Adhay 2, Shloka 7)

This prediction also fit on prophet Muhammad (PBUH), when during the battle of UHAD, BADR etc. God sent His Angels for his help. For reference see Holy Quran (3:123,124,125) "And Allah must assuredly helped you at Badr when you were mortified, therefore fear Allah, in order that you will give thanks to Him. When you said to the believers, is it not enough for you that your Lord should reinforce you with three thousand (3,000) angels sent down upon you? Rather, if you have patience and cautions, and they suddenly come against you, your Lord will reinforce you with five thousand (5,000) angles"

Holy Quran (9:25) " Allah has helped you on many a battlefield ..."

FOUR COMPANIONS OF KALKI AVTAR
* Kalki Avtar with his four companions or will kill the evil. (Kaiki Puran.Adhay 2,Shloka5)

There were four companions or helpers of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) who helped him in spreading Islam. Their names are Umar (ra), Abu Bakr (ra), Usman (ra) and Ali (ra). After death of Prophet these companions ruled the country and practically imposed the religion. They are known as Khulafa - e - Rashideen in Islamic history. So this prediction also fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

KALKI AVTAR WILL BE THE LAST AVTAR
* There are 24 main Prophet, but Kalki Avtar will be the last one, who will be the end (seal) of all Prophets. (Bhagwat Puran Partham Khand Adhay 3, Shloka 25)

No Prophet except Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has declared him as the last Prophet and it is the faith of every Muslim that Prophet Muhammad is the last Prophet and no Prophet will come after him. God Himself declared Muhammad (PBUH) as the last Prophet. For reference see (Holy Quran 33.40) " he (Muhammad) is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of Prophets, and Allah is aware of all things .." and in another place God says, " .. This day I have perfected your religion for you and completed my favor to you. I have approved Islam to be your religion ..." (5.3)

Another interesting thing is that, in the Holy Quran there are 25 Prophets mentioned by name including Prophet Ahmed (Muhammad) himself, so there were 24 main Prophets before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). So these two predictions also fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

 

[arunma]

Starlight, could you please give a citation for this text?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

PROPHECY OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN HINDU SCRIPTURES
The Quran informs us that, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is not only Warner for one nation but, for the whole mankind, it further informs that, the prophecy of Muhammad (PBUH) was foretold in the previous Scriptures revealed on different nations.

What Scriptures are you talking about?

Are you saying God in the OT/OC LIED to us and it was muhammad that came to take away the Sin of the world

(Young) John 1:29 on the morrow John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, `Lo, the Lamb of God, who is taking away the sin of the world;

Romans 11:6 and so all Israel shall be saved, according as it hath been written, `There shall come forth out of Sion he who is delivering, and he shall turn away impiety from Jacob, 27 and this to them [is] the covenant from Me, when I may take away their sins.'

(Young) Isaiah 27:9 Therefore by this is the iniquity of Jacob covered, And this [is] all the fruit--To take away his sin, in His setting all the stones of an altar, As chalkstones beaten in pieces, They rise not--shrines and images.

Isaiah 59:20 And come to Zion hath a redeemer, Even to captives of transgression in Jacob, An affirmation of Jehovah. 21 And I--this [is] My covenant with them, said Jehovah, My Spirit that [is] on thee, And My words that I have put in thy mouth, Depart not from thy mouth, And from the mouth of thy seed, And from the mouth of thy seed's seed, said Jehovah, From henceforth unto the age!

Jerem 31:33 For this [is] the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people. 34 And they do not teach any more Each his neighbour, and each his brother, Saying, Know ye Jehovah, For they all know Me, from their least unto their greatest, An affirmation of Jehovah; For I pardon their iniquity, And of their sin I make mention no more.

 

[*Starlight*]

Starlight, could you please give a citation for this text?

Here's the site where I found it:

http://www.bhanot.net/satsang/aum.html

When I did a google search, I found some other sites about it:

http://www.123himachal.com/religion/hinduism.htm
http://www.atmajyoti.org/med_word_that_is_god.asp

But I can't find anywhere which one of the Vedas it is... and where exactly it can be found...

 

[SelfRealization]

Prophet Muhammad foretold in Hindu scriptures as well.

According to traditional Vedic calculations the Kalki avatar is not set to come for another 427,000 yrs, at the end of the Kali Yuga. And of course he will not contradict the words of past incarnations of God [like Lord Krishna.. please read the Bhagavad Gita online].

History tells us Muslims erroneously tried to tie these Vedic prophecies in with Muhammed to try and get naive (and uneducated) Hindus to convert to Islam.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

According to traditional Vedic calculations the Kalki avatar is not set to come for another 427,000 yrs, at the end of the Kali Yuga. And of course he will not contradict the words of past incarnations of God [like Lord Krishna.. please read the Bhagavad Gita online].

History tells us Muslims erroneously tried to tie these Vedic prophecies in with Muhammed to try and get naive (and uneducated) Hindus to convert to Islam.

They try to do the same thing with Christians.

http://www.christianforums.com/t2925815-did-muhammad-bring-the-nc-promised-in-ot.html

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A mob of 50 "Hindu radicals" today ransacked an Assembly of God church building in India desecrating the Bible, sources on the ground report. [/FONT][FONT=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]According to Voice of the Martyrs, which monitors Christian persecution worldwide, the attack occurred at 12:15 p.m. local time in Lakshmipuram, Ulsoor, Bangalore, India. [/FONT]

 

[sefroth77]

Prophet Muhammad foretold in Hindu scriptures as well.

Full of crap all these are lies propagated by muslims, I also had the belief till i read the actual source.

Muhammad was never foretold in Hindu scriptures. Its pure nonsense. I have refuted many of these claims with accurate rebuttal. Muslims ran away from my questions from ummah.com and whyislam.org, I've proof them wrong, you want me to do it here, no problem with that dude.

 

[sefroth77]

Hello

Here's a verse from the Vedas which I've read recently in some thread here and one another website, and which really interested me:

"Prajapati vai idam agre aseet

Tasya vag dvitiya aseet

Vag vai paramam Brahman"

and the translation was:

"In the beginning was Prajapati, the Brahman

With whom was the Word

And the Word was the Supreme Brahman"

Can someone tell me where exactly in the Vedas that verse is?

I'm really curious about it, because that verse is almost exactly like one very well known Bible verse...

And one more question... What is Prajapati?

I have search high and low in the Vedas and no such verse exist in the first place. The word of God has no mention in actual Hindu Scriptures. This could be done by some Hindu zealots who wanted to unite different religions. Thru the intentions are good, the truth is Christianity is different from the Vedic Religion.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Full of ***** all these are lies propagated by muslims, I also had the belief till i read the actual source.

Muhammad was never foretold in Hindu scriptures. Its pure nonsense. I have refuted many of these claims with accurate rebuttal. Muslims ran away from my questions from ummah.com and whyislam.org, I've proof them wrong, you want me to do it here, no problem with that dude.

 

[*Starlight*]

I have search high and low in the Vedas and no such verse exist in the first place. The word of God has no mention in actual Hindu Scriptures. This could be done by some Hindu zealots who wanted to unite different religions. Thru the intentions are good, the truth is Christianity is different from the Vedic Religion.

ok, thanks for telling me!

 

[srev2004]

ok, thanks for telling me!

actually that's not the case, I will find it for you, give me a second.

I shall fully describe the Supreme Being --- the object of knowledge. By knowing this one at*tains immortality. The beginningless Supreme Being is said to be neither eternal nor temporal. (See also 9.19, 11.37, and 15.18) (13.12)
In the beginning there was neither Eternal Being nor Temporal Beings; no sky, no air, neither day nor night. There was nothing else whatsoever other than the Absolute Supreme Being (RV 10.129.01, AiU 1.01). The Absolute is beyond both Temporal Beings (celestial controllers, Devas) and the Eternal Being (the Spirit) (Verse 15.18). Therefore, He is neither temporal, nor eternal. The Supreme Being or the Absolute is also both temporal and eternal (Verse 9.19) and beyond temporal and eternal (Verse 11.37, 15.18); because, He is everywhere, in everything, and also beyond everything. Therefore, the Absolute is all three --- neither temporal nor eternal; beyond both temporal and eternal, as well as both temporal and eternal --- at the same time.
The Supreme Being has His hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, and ears eve*rywhere, because He is all-pervading and omnipresent. (13.13)
He is the perceiver of all sense objects without the physical sense organs; unattached, and yet the sustainer of all; devoid of the three modes of material Nature, and yet the enjoyer of the modes of material Nature by becoming the living entity. (13.14)
The Self walks without legs, hears without ears, performs many actions without hands, smells without a nose, sees without eyes, speaks without a mouth, and enjoys all tastes without a tongue. All His actions are so marvelous that one finds His greatness utterly beyond description (TR 1.117.03-04). The Supreme Being may be de*scribed only by parables and paradoxes and in no other way. (See also ShU 3.19). Self expands Himself as the living entity to enjoy three modes of material Nature.
God does not possess a body like an ordinary being. All His senses are transcendental, or out of this world. His potencies are multifarious. Any one of His senses can perform the action of any other sense. All His deeds are automatically performed as a natural consequence.
He is inside as well as outside all beings, animate and inanimate. He is incomprehensible because of His subtlety. And because of His omnipresence, He is very near --- residing in one’s inner psyche --- as well as far away in the Supreme Abode. (13.15)
He is undivided, yet appears to exist as if divided in beings. He is the ob*ject of knowledge and appears as the creator (Brahmaa), sustainer (Vishnu), and destroyer (Shiva) of all be*ings. (See also 11.13, and 18.20) (13.16)
One planet earth appears divided into so many countries, one country appears divided into several states, one state appears divided into counties and so on; similarly, one Reality ap*pears as many. These are apparent divisions, because they have the same order of reality. The term God is used for the Generator, Operator, and Destroyer aspects of the Self.
The Supreme Being is the source of all lights. He is said to be beyond darkness of ignorance. He is Self-knowledge, the object of Self-knowledge, and seated in the inner psyche as consciousness (See verse 18.61) of all beings, He is to be realized by Self-knowledge. (13.17)


All of these are from the Gita, and the Rig Veda (Oldest Document in Human History).

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rvsan
http://vedabase.net/bg/en

Keep in mind Sanskrit has more words than English, hence some words don't have an exact translation but the next best thing. Hence there are thousands of translations of the same sanskrit literature. If you really wish to understand what the literature is speaking of and the spirit behind it, one should learn sanskrit.

 

[*Starlight*]

actually that's not the case, I will find it for you, give me a second.

I shall fully describe the Supreme Being --- the object of knowledge. By knowing this one at*tains immortality. The beginningless Supreme Being is said to be neither eternal nor temporal. (See also 9.19, 11.37, and 15.18) (13.12)
In the beginning there was neither Eternal Being nor Temporal Beings; no sky, no air, neither day nor night. There was nothing else whatsoever other than the Absolute Supreme Being (RV 10.129.01, AiU 1.01). The Absolute is beyond both Temporal Beings (celestial controllers, Devas) and the Eternal Being (the Spirit) (Verse 15.18). Therefore, He is neither temporal, nor eternal. The Supreme Being or the Absolute is also both temporal and eternal (Verse 9.19) and beyond temporal and eternal (Verse 11.37, 15.18); because, He is everywhere, in everything, and also beyond everything. Therefore, the Absolute is all three --- neither temporal nor eternal; beyond both temporal and eternal, as well as both temporal and eternal --- at the same time.
The Supreme Being has His hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, and ears eve*rywhere, because He is all-pervading and omnipresent. (13.13)
He is the perceiver of all sense objects without the physical sense organs; unattached, and yet the sustainer of all; devoid of the three modes of material Nature, and yet the enjoyer of the modes of material Nature by becoming the living entity. (13.14)
The Self walks without legs, hears without ears, performs many actions without hands, smells without a nose, sees without eyes, speaks without a mouth, and enjoys all tastes without a tongue. All His actions are so marvelous that one finds His greatness utterly beyond description (TR 1.117.03-04). The Supreme Being may be de*scribed only by parables and paradoxes and in no other way. (See also ShU 3.19). Self expands Himself as the living entity to enjoy three modes of material Nature.
God does not possess a body like an ordinary being. All His senses are transcendental, or out of this world. His potencies are multifarious. Any one of His senses can perform the action of any other sense. All His deeds are automatically performed as a natural consequence.
He is inside as well as outside all beings, animate and inanimate. He is incomprehensible because of His subtlety. And because of His omnipresence, He is very near --- residing in one’s inner psyche --- as well as far away in the Supreme Abode. (13.15)
He is undivided, yet appears to exist as if divided in beings. He is the ob*ject of knowledge and appears as the creator (Brahmaa), sustainer (Vishnu), and destroyer (Shiva) of all be*ings. (See also 11.13, and 18.20) (13.16)
One planet earth appears divided into so many countries, one country appears divided into several states, one state appears divided into counties and so on; similarly, one Reality ap*pears as many. These are apparent divisions, because they have the same order of reality. The term God is used for the Generator, Operator, and Destroyer aspects of the Self.
The Supreme Being is the source of all lights. He is said to be beyond darkness of ignorance. He is Self-knowledge, the object of Self-knowledge, and seated in the inner psyche as consciousness (See verse 18.61) of all beings, He is to be realized by Self-knowledge. (13.17)


All of these are from the Gita, and the Rig Veda (Oldest Document in Human History).

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rvsan
http://vedabase.net/bg/en

Keep in mind Sanskrit has more words than English, hence some words don't have an exact translation but the next best thing. Hence there are thousands of translations of the same sanskrit literature. If you really wish to understand what the literature is speaking of and the spirit behind it, one should learn sanskrit.

Thanks for the post! It was really interesting to read... That's some really deep knowledge about God there! It makes me want to read the Vedas and the Gita... well, I'll probably do it eventually, when I have time

But, there's nothing similar to what I posted there...

 

[srev2004]

Thanks for the post! It was really interesting to read... That's some really deep knowledge about God there! It makes me want to read the Vedas and the Gita... well, I'll probably do it eventually, when I have time

But, there's nothing similar to what I posted there...

You do know Vedas are thousands and thousands of literatures right?

But all you need to know about Hinduism is in the Bhagavad Gita, I promise.

 

[*Starlight*]

You do know Vedas are thousands and thousands of literatures right?

But all you need to know about Hinduism is in the Bhagavad Gita, I promise.

Yes, I know... But I've heard that the Upanishads are the most important, like the essence of the Vedas...

And thanks for telling me, I'll read it first Is it very long?

So, can you find anything in the Vedas similar to what I posted in the OP?

 

[srev2004]

Here is the Author's Commentary.
http://vedabase.net/bg/preface/en