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So many times, quotes from the Bible refer to those who are "in Christ." What does this mean?

I think, in part, it means to (try to) follow Him, seek His will, and take on the mind of Christ, that is ask the Father to provide you with Christ's Spirit.

The affliction of intrusive thoughts, especially "the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit," represent a grievance to us Christians with ocd. Since these thoughts are traumatic and inflict much fear and grief, they become subject to becoming more invasive, perhaps similar to post-traumatic stress (e.g. replaying a traumatic experience over and over in one's mind). I do not have experience with PTSD, but I think that is a logical analogy in terms of intrusive "traumatic" thoughts.

I have considered how Christ must have responded to those who blasphemed His Holy Spirit. It must have grieved Him beyond what is described in the text. The very people Christ came to save, rejected Him to his face, accused Him of being demon possessed (which was the unpardonable sin) after performing a miracle, and proceeded to crucify Him. No wonder we are disturbed by these horrible thoughts when they pop into our consciousness. I know for many of us we worry about our own souls when these thoughts invade. However, when these intrusive thoughts grieve us as they did Christ, is it in part because we are "in Christ"? That is, we are responding in an emotional way with some of the hurt Christ must have experienced?
 

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So many times, quotes from the Bible refer to those who are "in Christ." What does this mean?

I think, in part, it means to (try to) follow Him, seek His will, and take on the mind of Christ, that is ask the Father to provide you with Christ's Spirit.

The affliction of intrusive thoughts, especially "the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit," represent a grievance to us Christians with ocd. Since these thoughts are traumatic and inflict much fear and grief, they become subject to becoming more invasive, perhaps similar to post-traumatic stress (e.g. replaying a traumatic experience over and over in one's mind). I do not have experience with PTSD, but I think that is a logical analogy in terms of intrusive "traumatic" thoughts.

I have considered how Christ must have responded to those who blasphemed His Holy Spirit. It must have grieved Him beyond what is described in the text. The very people Christ came to save, rejected Him to his face, accused Him of being demon possessed (which was the unpardonable sin) after performing a miracle, and proceeded to crucify Him. No wonder we are disturbed by these horrible thoughts when they pop into our consciousness. I know for many of us we worry about our own souls when these thoughts invade. However, when these intrusive thoughts grieve us as they did Christ, is it in part because we are "in Christ"? That is, we are responding in an emotional way with some of the hurt Christ must have experienced?

Hmm, I think being in Christ means that we live and move and have our being in Him. I think we hurt when we have bad thoughts, which we all have because yes, we are in Christ and we just feel bad, even though it's normal to have bad thoughts. Everyone has them.

Though I understand someone with OCD and some other problems have these thoughts more frequently and worry over them more. God says there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. We have nothing to worry about or fear. But I know it's not easy when we have thoughts that are contrary to God. God understands though. He made us and He understands the struggle. God bless you, Tapero
 
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