Imputed Righteousness

[Optimax]

Originally Posted by Giver

I do as God the Father tells me, I don’t know what God the Father has for you to do.
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General statements are easy to make.

As long as you have posted about living without sinning and walking like Jesus walks.

Then you must have a "picture" of what a person's day might look like.

Otherwise is it just talk.

You say you do as God the Father tells you.

That must then include what you post.

Is that right?

 

[JavaQueen2]

(1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay in him.”

what does that have to do with my question? the people before Jesus died didn't have the Holy Spirit. So...again, how did that work for them?

 

[Giver]

Originally Posted by Giver

I do as God the Father tells me, I don’t know what God the Father has for you to do.
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You say you do as God the Father tells you.

That must then include what you post.

Is that right?

Because of restrictions place on me by the administration of the Forum I can’t answer your question.

Something that might help you understand where I am coming from is to ask Jesus having the mind of Christ means. Paul talked about having the mind of Christ.

 

[Giver]

what does that have to do with my question? the people before Jesus died didn't have the Holy Spirit. So...again, how did that work for them?

You asked about Early Christians. The followers of Jesus before Jesus died were considered disciples.

The disciples were still under the Old Law.

 

[JavaQueen2]

so who taught them?

 

[Optimax]

Because of restrictions place on me by the administration of the Forum I can’t answer your question.

Something that might help you understand where I am coming from is to ask Jesus having the mind of Christ means. Paul talked about having the mind of Christ.

Your answer is not what God told you to say.

Your answer is dictated by "the forum", whoever that is.

 

[Andrea411]

You asked about Early Christians. The followers of Jesus before Jesus died were considered disciples.

The disciples were still under the Old Law.

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Yes, the disciples as well as Jesus lived under the old covenant till Christ returned and He blew on them…

“Peace be with you.” 20 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then ithe disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. 21 Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As jthe Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.” 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”

24 Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.”
26 Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 wbut these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Notice, they could forgive sin. They no longer had to go to the temple and make offerings. This was the change from the OT to the NT. Where they are given the power to forgive sin. This was their empowering….. it happened prior to the Ascension and before Pentecost. Yet they tarried till Pentecost with the other believers...

 

[Giver]

Your answer is not what God told you to say.

Your answer is dictated by "the forum", whoever that is.

Jesus told me to keep my promise.

 

[Naomanos]

Jesus told me to keep my promise.

Giver seems to be avoiding your question Optimax.

Giver, I do not believe that you are a prophet, as I posted yesterday there are ways to tell if one is a prophet or not, and you aren't making the grade in at least one of them.

True or false prophet? 4 ways to tell for sure - Stand Up For The Truth

If the prophet or prophetess
1. …has prophesies that aren’t 100 percent accurate 100 percent of the time (or are manipulated to come “true”) = False.
2. …points to any “Jesus” other than the biblical one = False.
3. …uses supernatural or occultist techniques used in his or her prophecy = False.
4. …has a rebellious, unrepentant spirit = False.

I bolded number four, because that is the one that I believe you miss the mark on more than anything else (although I do not know if what you have prophesied has come true or not), but you have an unrepentant spirit. You claim that you do not need an advocate because you are sinless, so there is no need for you to repent. That is an unrepentant spirit.

I sin, I would never deny that I sin. Therefore when I sin, I ask for forgiveness and repent. I would not be so bold as to say that I never sin, therefore I do not need Jesus, or I do not need to repent.