Impossible

[VictorC]

Now I ask you who say God's Law is done away with, do you have the veil that blinds?

Another fabrication in contradiction to Scripture?
Yes.
Your whole approach is to violate Scripture as many times as you can.

2 Corinthians 3
12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

How familiar are you with Exodus 34, from where 2 Corinthians 3 comments on? That is the account when Moses received the second tables of stone with the covenant from Sinai, and it is only those bound to that first covenant who are blinded with a veil when they can't see the end of that covenant that was passing away. The ten commandments is gone, taken by the hand of God to establish the new covenant in His Blood, as concluded in Hebrews 10:9.

A pity you have to bear false witness, which is a component of the covenant you claim isn't "okay" to violate. You just did. And you have no solution for your transgression.

 

[VictorC]

I wouldn't say hoplessly lost that's a conclusion you come to by using only have truths.

Our last episode caught you using half-truths while claiming it reveals influence from satan. This episode catches you distancing yourself from your own quote that has left you unsaved by your own words.

Have you no idea why this commandment exists in Galatians 4:30?
"Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman".
That bondwoman was defined as the covenant from Mount Sinai in verse 24, which was the ten commandments. Those who have not been redeemed from the ten commandments do not have any promise of inheriting eternal life with Christ.

That's hopelessly lost, without turning to the only propitiation God provided to fulfill and complete the law that imputes sin for your transgressions: "sin is not imputed when there is no law" (Romans 5:13).

 

[k4c]

Another fabrication in contradiction to Scripture?
Yes.
Your whole approach is to violate Scripture as many times as you can.

2 Corinthians 3
12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

How familiar are you with Exodus 34, from where 2 Corinthians 3 comments on? That is the account when Moses received the second tables of stone with the covenant from Sinai, and it is only those bound to that first covenant who are blinded with a veil when they can't see the end of that covenant that was passing away. The ten commandments is gone, taken by the hand of God to establish the new covenant in His Blood, as concluded in Hebrews 10:9.

A pity you have to bear false witness, which is a component of the covenant you claim isn't "okay" to violate. You just did. And you have no solution for your transgression.

Your statement that says I have no solution for my transgression is a perfect example of you having a veil.

Let me move that veil from your eyes just a little so you can see one of the many verses God gave us that speak of the solution we have for our sin through Jesus Christ, which I've posted already so many times.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things I write to you, that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

He writes these things so that we may NOT sin but if anyone DOES sin.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Are you catching that?

Also, I would like to jump on your merry-go-round one more time and repeat this. A covenant or agreemnet contains two parts, the terms and the content. If you take some time to read your Bible you will see that in the new covenant God made new terms with same Law. This is where He takes the Law on stone and writes it on our hearts and minds.

Let me see if I can bring enough light in to penetrate your veil.

Romans 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!

From this above new covenant verse, does it say we can now sin since we are not under the Law? Just answer yes or no with out all the fluff that beats around the bush but never gives an answer.

Since it says we should not break the Law tells us the Law has a living and working part of our daily lives in the new covenant.

Paul repeats it again for those who were sleeping and missed what God has been saying.

Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not!

Shall we continue to break the Law so that GRACE, that's right I said GRACE, may abound?

The answer is right within the verse I quoted. Is that answer, certainly yes or certainly not. Just use one word yes or no please.

Even with your veil you have to see this bright light.

God says Jesus would magnify the Law. The last I heard, magnify means make bigger, not smaller or do away with.

Love is the greatest of all but love without definition is dangerous.

 

[bugkiller]

So are her sabbaths the weekly sabbath?

bugkiller

I hate having to quote myself. But I am calling on k4c to answeer this question that arises because he insits that the sabbath spoken of in Hosea 2:11 are not the sabbaths that God gave to the Israelites. I am asking for proof that those sabbaths are something other than what God issued to them. We see in Jesus day He kept the sabbath and there is no mention of any other sabbath being kept. Jesus came well after the time of Hosea.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

I have to say this again...you are a master at twisting and puttng words in people's mouth and telling people what they believe. I don't even think you realize what you're doing because if you do then your blindness goes deeper than I thought. It's kind of comical though to watch you do it over and over again.

I am begining to think this is nothing more than entertainment for you.

bugkiller

 

[VictorC]

Your statement that says I have no solution for my transgression is a perfect example of you having a veil.

Let me move that veil from your eyes just a little so you can see one of the many verses God gave us that speak of the solution we have for our sin through Jesus Christ, which I've posted already so many times.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things I write to you, that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

He writes these things so that we may NOT sin but if anyone DOES sin.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Are you catching that?

Sin also transgresses the law, but it has no relation to the law if there is no law. This too has been pointed out many times for you, and you haven't understood that sin existed thousands of years before the law did (Romans 5:13) and is an entity separate from transgression. How do you explain sin and death entering the world 2500 years before the law did, if you don't accept the Biblical account summarized in Romans 5?

Also, I would like to jump on your merry-go-round one more time and repeat this. A covenant or agreemnet contains two parts, the terms and the content. If you take some time to read your Bible you will see that in the new covenant God made new terms with same Law. This is where He takes the Law on stone and writes it on our hearts and minds.

Isn't bearing false witness a transgression of the first covenant engraved onto tables of stone? Why then do you repeat this fabrication disproven by Jeremiah 31:32, Hebrews 8:9, and Romans 2:15?

Let me see if I can bring enough light in to penetrate your veil.

What non-Biblical veil are you referring to now? Paul's allusion to the veil in 2 Corinthians 3 was applied to those retaining the covenant engraved on tables of stone, the ten commandments. He does not apply that to those who have attained the liberty found in the Lord.

Romans 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!

From this above new covenant verse, does it say we can now sin since we are not under the Law? Just answer yes or no with out all the fluff that beats around the bush but never gives an answer.

1 Peter 2
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men----
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.

The short answer is "no", with the qualification that we should abstain from sin - but your wording of "can we sin" reveals ignorance on your part of God's promise "Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more".

Can you answer your own question the same way?
If so, what gives you license to disregard the commandments of God found in the new covenant?

Have you no idea why this commandment exists in Galatians 4:30?
"Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman".
That bondwoman was defined as the covenant from Mount Sinai in verse 24, which was the ten commandments. Those who have not been redeemed from the ten commandments do not have any promise of inheriting eternal life with Christ.

In your reply I would like you to focus on this aspect you choose to disregard.

Since it says we should not break the Law tells us the Law has a living and working part of our daily lives in the new covenant.

This is a fabrication unrelated to anything you have provided as support.

Paul repeats it again for those who were sleeping and missed what God has been saying.

Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not!

Shall we continue to break the Law so that GRACE, that's right I said GRACE, may abound?

This too is a fabrication unrelated to anything you have provided as support.

The answer is right within the verse I quoted. Is that answer, certainly yes or certainly not. Just use one word yes or no please.

There is no answer necessary for the unBiblical fabrication you presented in violation of Scripture. No one gave you license to edit Holy Writ.

Even with your veil you have to see this bright light.

Again you assert an unBiblical fabrication quite the opposite to what Paul referred to as who the veil of blindness is applied to in 2 Corinthians 3.

God says Jesus would magnify the Law. The last I heard, magnify means make bigger, not smaller or do away with.

Just as in God's "My law" that He wrote into our hearts and minds, you do not know what this law He magnified refers to.

Love is the greatest of all but love without definition is dangerous.

Does love bear false witness or fabricate evidence in contradiction to Scripture? Does love spurn the commandments of God given by direct inspiration through Paul? Please explain how you show agape love for anyone by shredding your Bible and ignoring it.