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impossible to go back once you have left Christianity?

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Of course you can return to the Church. Those who have told you otherwise are doing the devil's bidding to keep you away!! I would also encourage you to not measure Truth by the meanness of individuals in a particular church. In whatever happens to be the Church exercising faith in Christ to the fullest, you will find hypocrites! So if you see them, don't let that stop you from measuring a church on what it teaches. God bless you. Please pray about this...God loves to hear from you!!! ;)
YEP amen.
God also warned us that there are wolves in the church - and we know there's alot of people masquerading as "servants of light" when they are not serving God at all.
(Mt. 7:21-23)

So... our source of truth remains scripture. Test everything against that foundation. :amen:
 
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Dear xyzabc123. You had a good number of replies, and I am sure you realise now, " with God nothing is impossible." If you love God, you may be sure that He knows, and He is all Love. You have also met some very good Christians, and there really are many good followers of Christ. I say this humbly and with love, xyzabc, " if we have God on our side, nobody and nothing can be against us." Try to imagine our Lord hanging on the cross, and still praying to God: " Father forgive them, they do not know what they are doing." I know they are only words which I can give you, but try and repay unkindness with kind and loving words, it will be like heaping hot coal on the sinners head. I say this humbly and with love Dear, and send greetings. Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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I imagine that this going to be long.

When I was fourteen years old I was "saved" and started to attend a local church that I now believe to be...well, whacked, for a lack of a better term. I went there for eight years on and off (off only when I moved away for a few years) and I have never, in all of my days, encountered a group of more hateful people.

My sister and I have been publicly humiliated because we are biracial (our parents, though married when we were conceived, are apparently evil because they dared to marry one another as one is white and the other is not). I have been called a harlot because I took birth control, on the advice of my doctor, to regulate problems I have (at my age, I am still a virgin). I felt called to write to prisoners, to encourage them and to lead them to God. I was told that I am stupid for such a desire, that God does not intend for us to do such things. I was chastised in front of the entire congregation (of course my name was not mentioned, but everyone knew he was talking about me) because I had tried to minister to prisoners through letters. I have a tattoo, from a wild period in my youth, and I have been told that it is the mark of a devil. It is only a rose, and I haven't the money to remove it, and I don't think that I would even if I did...I see it as part of me now, a battle scar, not a sign that I am wed to Satan.

lol, I have a rose and a cross on my right arm...

that bunch seems to be exactly opposite of what we are supposed to be...wow.

everything they told you (that you wrote) is totally wrong.

My sister was told that the reason her first child died is because she married outside of the church (her husband is a Christian, just not a member of our former church). I was engaged to a man in my former church. He beat me. I was told that it was my fault, that if I was a good Christian woman that he wouldn't hit me. He cheated on me. Once again, this was my fault. He threatened to kill me. Everyone turned a blind eye when I reached out for help. And so I left him, because I could not stay. Suddenly I felt what it was like to be shunned. I was told to leave the church because I had refused to obey God (because I would not marry my fiancee). I was blacklisted. And although it has been nearly five years now since I last stepped foot in that church, whenever I see old church members they glare at me, or spit in my direction, or whisper loudly about how I am damned so that I can hear them say such things, or tell me that I am going to hell and that God hates me.

again, these folks are in serious trouble...not you. I am disgusted actually.

Ironically, any time that I seem to show a bit of interest in religion, I run into these folk and am reminded exactly why I left the faith.

wrong bunch...there are good Christian souls out there, believe me...but as with any section of life, there are bad apples so to speak...self righteous hypocrites...I can only imagine the sin that they themselves conceal...shameful...and if I could, I'd apologize for them...in fact on behalf of the Body of Christ, I apologize for their rudeness and holier then thou attitude...they shall have their reward.

You know, Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees about the same kind of stuff...Jesus would not approve of anything that they told you (what you have written)

I have tried going to a new church. The new church members were very nice to me. I was suspicious of them, because the only time people at my former church were ever nice to me was when they wanted something from me. I went a few times to this new church, but could not remain going there. I do not trust them when they smile at me or greet me.

some are honest..real Christians...seekers who trust the Word of God and TRY...some are totally opposite fakers...even if they don't know it.

I have tried to read the bible. I have no luck in this. Every time I look at one I am reminded of the hurt, and within a few days, even if it has been months since I have seen a member of my former church, without fail I run into one at the store and they mock me.

they shall have their reward...in like manner. I sure would not wanna be them on Judgement day.

And still, sometimes, I remember the child-like faith I once had and miss it.

ya, children are great, and I remember that time too!

I went to Mexico in 2000. Oh it was a learning experience. People there were living in cardboard boxes but their faith was unlike anything I had ever seen around here. The Christians down there welcomed us so warmly, so genuinely. There was no condemnation to be had there. No one made fun of me because I am not white enough. They insisted that we sit in their folding metal chairs, an honor for they had so few of them, and the women touched my hair and said that I was beautiful. :cry:

awesome

When I returned here, it was doubly hard because my hair, you understand, has always been the biggest problem...in the house of God it has been called "frizzy" if they were feeling kind, "nappy" if they were not. And my former pastor saying that if you are not rich God does not love you, your faith is weak, yet here were people who were so poor, who had so little to give, and I could not help but think that if there is a God, that he must surely love them the most, for they had little but were willing to give so much of that little. Some of them only had kind words to give, and yet they gave them to me, and never had I felt so connected to something bigger than me than I did there.

the pastor was totally incorrect. Jesus did not have a lot of money....and commanded us NOT to charge for the FREE info that will save ones soul. After all, God is the owner of everything...if you are His child, you own everything as well...one day those who are His shall inherit EVERYTHING. Then we can see what those hypocrites will do...if God keeps them around.

My heart is breaking anew as I write all of this down, because even though I have told myself that there is no God,

there is

and if there is that I do not want to be part of his people only to be ridiculed and mocked again, my heart still wishes for something more. But faith, I do not know how to find it. Any faith I did have has been stolen from me, or given away by me, and there is none to be found now.

what you have written shows a lot more faith and kindness then those losers who condemn you.

I have been told that it is impossible to go back once you have left the church.

wrong...if you want to get close, get close...no man can tell you otherwise.

My pastor himself said that if I left the church that there was no hope to be had for my soul. And yet, somehow, the soul still has a little speck of hope left, although it is very dim and grows dimmer by the year, until I am afraid that there shall soon be nothing left at all. The only thing that has been keeping it alive this long is those people in Mexico who changed my life so...but I cannot seem to find anyone like them up here, until I think that maybe I imagined them all and that they never existed.

Your pastor should not be leading a flock. There are really good people out there....but as in all slices of life, there are plenty of bad ones too! God loves you, be assured....the bible is right over man, be assured...and if you want to, come join the Body here on CF. Where two are Gathered together, that is church....and there is a lot more than 2 here...many are real fine people.

I will pray for you and one day you will be healed...you sound too nice not to be. Don't sweat the jerks...they will not be around for the eternity anyway...not if they are that way and don't change. You're alright...trust me....search again, you will find Him and He will lead you to some good folk...

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Hi xyzabc123
I’m wondering how you are doing since you posted, are you still here?

I’m biracial also. PLEASE don’t let anyone tell you your hair isn’t beautiful because it is curly/kinky/frizzy. It sounds like maybe you don't have many other biracial people where you are. There are some on line e-lists and forums you might be interested in.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWIRLinc/
http://www.google.com/Top/Society/Ethnicity/Multiracial/Chats_and_Forums/
http://www.mixedfolks.com/
www.naturallycurly.com (this is a site about hair! The hair thing is not trivial. So much pain.)

You are not a mistake. God designed everything about you, each feature. Psalm 139(NIV) says:
For you created my inmost being;
You knit me together in my mother’s womb
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made
Your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.

I hope you don’t give up on God because of what the people at that church did to you (there is a name for what they did it is called spiritual abuse). The enemy uses the wounds from abuse and racism to make it harder for us to love ourselves, harder to trust other people, and thus harder to know and accept the love that God has for us.
--Sarah
 
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Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
 
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Your story is sad but bad things happen. Let me tell you a secret. once you have a spirit you always have a spirit. Once God predestin you, that cant be change.

Church and religon you got to be careful with, for they teach what there religon teaches over the bible. Then they tell you if you dont follow THEIR RULES your going to hell.
Following God is about doing what God would want you to do every day, other than what is wrong or the church says. The church you went to was racist. But God said all ARE =. Remember the ten commandments says on the sabbath (thou sall keep they sabbath day HOLY) That doesnt mean you have to go to church to be saved. Going to church helps alot and even will strength your own spirit, but that only happens if those your around are saved to. The bible says it even the devil goes to church. You got to be careiful of those preachers and those in lead in the church.

Being saved is about believeind in God's son Jesus christ, its about declareing your soul for God (bapistism). Its about haveing faith and works. And one of the most important if you ask me having a personal relationship with God. You do that by talking to God and him talking to you. You do that by talking to God by praying, knowing that when you pray that your talking to God throw the power of Jesus. Then let God talk to you by reading the word of God.

Now I know you said you have a hard time reading the word for it reminds you what you went through. Then I tell you forget the past. Jesus said I believe that the past cannot help your future(not in those words) The past can only hurt your future. Even if all you do is read a chapter a day do it. If it hurts when you read pull through it. For God will see your hard work and award you accordingly. I have a story of my own if you ask maybe I will tell you if you want to hear it.

To answer your question yes you can go back. But I think that you never really fell, somewhere deep inside you you know truth. Your church was wrong, thats a church not worthy of your spirit in it. I dont think that you ever fell away from the God, your church just hurt your spirit greatly. Your tatoo does not send you to hell. (nothiing out side of the body can hurt you, only whats inside of the can hurt the). That incudes people church and religion.

God bless ( GOD IS LOVE)
 
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I believe that if a person comes to want to go back to Christ, the Lord has been working on them thru His Spirit.

Those who cannot go back, will not want to seek the Lord anymore after they've left and will stay lost of their own volition. It's not as if people want to come back and God says "Nope, I gave you enough time, now your'e too late".

Romans 1:18-32 shows us those who are reprobates - it's those who God has hardened or "turned over" to depraved minds to continue in rebellion - they don't "come back" becuz they don't want to anymore.

Like the previous poster mentions the Prodigal son, he wanted to return home and was recieved when he came back.
 
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You know, it would be really nice if we were all saved whether we wanted to be or not...

I mean, the Bible does talk about "seeing how powerful the curse of Adam is, is a glimpse of how much more powerful what Jesus did actually is". Considering we don't even have a chance of rejecting the curse of Adam, no matter how much you hate it and even no matter whether you believe in it or not, I would hope it would be that much harder to shake the "curse" of Jesus.

I know the Bible also has plenty of scriptures that explain there is a hell and there will be some people going there. But hey, I just wanted to throw this thought out there for you people to chew on. Call me a heretic, but it just seems a little like God to me.

It just seems that anyone who was actually standing before the actual awesomeness of God couldn't help but agree that they were glad they were saved against their will. I guess, if for some reason, at that point someone still had it in them to reject God, well then, at least it was a legitimate decision. Things are pretty complicated down here, and I'm hoping God understands that.
 
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Can I clarify a point on this?

The bigger question might be: Is it possible for someone to be genuinely saved, become unsaved, then return to the family of God? The answer is, no.

I disagree. The answer DOES NOT MATTER.
Who cares whether or not the person is "genuinely saved" or not??? I've yet to meet a backslider who said "Well, I wasn't ever really a Christian."
The semantics do not matter.

Christians, please stop saying the following things to non-Christians:
1) You were never REALLY saved.
- That is not what an unbeliever needs to know. All you're doing is telling him that he's a liar. Tell him what he needs to do for God to save him: full surrender.
2) Once you're saved, nothing you can do can change that.
- This will leave you with a church full of pagan christians.

And, Christians, please stop telling other Christians the following:
1) Once you are saved, nothing you can do can change that.
- First of all, you're WRONG. To say that would imply that you have now been denied free will to change your mind. Secondly, there are numerous Scriptures indicating that names can be taken out of the Book of Life (Revelation, Exodus). Thirdly, even if it WERE true (which it isn't), all you are doing is convincing lukewarm Christians that they don't have to be fully committed, and convincing non-believers that they are Christians by default of a decision which they don't believe anymore.
 
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I imagine that this going to be long.

When I was fourteen years old I was "saved" and started to attend a local church that I now believe to be...well, whacked, for a lack of a better term. I went there for eight years on and off (off only when I moved away for a few years) and I have never, in all of my days, encountered a group of more hateful people.

My sister and I have been publicly humiliated because we are biracial (our parents, though married when we were conceived, are apparently evil because they dared to marry one another as one is white and the other is not). I have been called a harlot because I took birth control, on the advice of my doctor, to regulate problems I have (at my age, I am still a virgin). I felt called to write to prisoners, to encourage them and to lead them to God. I was told that I am stupid for such a desire, that God does not intend for us to do such things. I was chastised in front of the entire congregation (of course my name was not mentioned, but everyone knew he was talking about me) because I had tried to minister to prisoners through letters. I have a tattoo, from a wild period in my youth, and I have been told that it is the mark of a devil. It is only a rose, and I haven't the money to remove it, and I don't think that I would even if I did...I see it as part of me now, a battle scar, not a sign that I am wed to Satan.

My sister was told that the reason her first child died is because she married outside of the church (her husband is a Christian, just not a member of our former church). I was engaged to a man in my former church. He beat me. I was told that it was my fault, that if I was a good Christian woman that he wouldn't hit me. He cheated on me. Once again, this was my fault. He threatened to kill me. Everyone turned a blind eye when I reached out for help. And so I left him, because I could not stay. Suddenly I felt what it was like to be shunned. I was told to leave the church because I had refused to obey God (because I would not marry my fiancee). I was blacklisted. And although it has been nearly five years now since I last stepped foot in that church, whenever I see old church members they glare at me, or spit in my direction, or whisper loudly about how I am damned so that I can hear them say such things, or tell me that I am going to hell and that God hates me.

Ironically, any time that I seem to show a bit of interest in religion, I run into these folk and am reminded exactly why I left the faith.

I have tried going to a new church. The new church members were very nice to me. I was suspicious of them, because the only time people at my former church were ever nice to me was when they wanted something from me. I went a few times to this new church, but could not remain going there. I do not trust them when they smile at me or greet me.

I have tried to read the bible. I have no luck in this. Every time I look at one I am reminded of the hurt, and within a few days, even if it has been months since I have seen a member of my former church, without fail I run into one at the store and they mock me.

And still, sometimes, I remember the child-like faith I once had and miss it.

I went to Mexico in 2000. Oh it was a learning experience. People there were living in cardboard boxes but their faith was unlike anything I had ever seen around here. The Christians down there welcomed us so warmly, so genuinely. There was no condemnation to be had there. No one made fun of me because I am not white enough. They insisted that we sit in their folding metal chairs, an honor for they had so few of them, and the women touched my hair and said that I was beautiful. :cry: When I returned here, it was doubly hard because my hair, you understand, has always been the biggest problem...in the house of God it has been called "frizzy" if they were feeling kind, "nappy" if they were not. And my former pastor saying that if you are not rich God does not love you, your faith is weak, yet here were people who were so poor, who had so little to give, and I could not help but think that if there is a God, that he must surely love them the most, for they had little but were willing to give so much of that little. Some of them only had kind words to give, and yet they gave them to me, and never had I felt so connected to something bigger than me than I did there.

My heart is breaking anew as I write all of this down, because even though I have told myself that there is no God, and if there is that I do not want to be part of his people only to be ridiculed and mocked again, my heart still wishes for something more. But faith, I do not know how to find it. Any faith I did have has been stolen from me, or given away by me, and there is none to be found now.

I have been told that it is impossible to go back once you have left the church. My pastor himself said that if I left the church that there was no hope to be had for my soul. And yet, somehow, the soul still has a little speck of hope left, although it is very dim and grows dimmer by the year, until I am afraid that there shall soon be nothing left at all. The only thing that has been keeping it alive this long is those people in Mexico who changed my life so...but I cannot seem to find anyone like them up here, until I think that maybe I imagined them all and that they never existed.

I the end GoD will cast out those who teach false propehcy! In Revelations!

My seriously goes out to you!
I mean, that's one of the reasons why christians become atheist and I get angry and sadden by it!

But christians who turn atheist because they read some stupid book trying to prove there is no GoD or love. I get so annoyed with that!


I mean, in some churches, they ALWAYS teach wrong things in order to control people.

The church you went to were bad! And personaly I don't think those fools are ever gonna step foot in heaven!
Every single thing they do is a sin! I mean, hating on you, saying bad things about you, 2 faced. All these things are a sin! Especially the hating part: Jesus said love your enemies.
Yet you are a member of the church, you became their enemy somehow and YET they hate you!


Hey, if this is too much for you, DON'T ATTEND A CHURCH!
Going to church is for expressing your feelings to GoD over what he has done to you and a place to worship him!

I don't go to church because of a cheap reason!
Waking up, I normally wake up 6:30am and I am too tired to get up, its really getting to me. I also work on Saturdays. So I think I should be resting on Sunday as GoD said 7th day is the Sabbath day!

I feel bad but not going to church, but feel strong when ever I pray.


Seriously, you don't need church in your life as some are really corrupted, all you need is to be with GoD personally, or through prayer!




And please I advise you to become a christian:( its good to meet people like you in Heaven. Becoming a christian is so much better than falling into this Earthly goods!
If you love this earth, your life will become easier, people will love you, you will get all these things: big house, money, HD TV, jewellery, gold etc
Basically Satan will be feeding you!

But if you become a Christian, you will experience miracle.


I hope my words will make you go back to being a christian, you don't have to attend Church! Just pray to GoD.
 
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*relating to comments on a bad church*

Wheat and Tares -- the bible explains that wolves & false teachers/prophets (tares) will be inside the church as well.
We cannot expect perfect churches when imperfect and even wicked people are in them.

They were in the church when Paul was an apostle too. We don't judge God by the evil we see - we affirm God's truth about the evil we see becuz He's warned us about it and what to look for.

With that said, we just pack up our luggage and find a new church that supports us and build a new network of friends and worship there instead.
Church is designed for US - God initiated it for us to gather together as one body - to worship, be encouraged, form friendship bonds, pray for one another and lend help & support when we need it.
It's really important for us to go; (no I'm not advocating living there 24/7 lol).
SOME attendance is better than none tho. In my own life if I've missed 2-3 wks in a row, I feel dried up and like I NEED to get there. It's a grounding for me.
 
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