Important Facts about Evolution

[Loudmouth]

How big is a photon?

Did you just breeze past the part where I said that photons have no mass?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Do you think it is a bad thing that theories are changed to match observations?

Theories aren't proven. Theory is as high as it gets in science. For example, the Law of Gravity is a part of the larger Theory of Gravity.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

As you are defining it, consistency means staying with your first claim no matter what new evidence comes to light. You were complaining that conclusions have changed with respect to neanderthals, saying that there was a lack of consistency. The first step is in admitting error. Were creationists lying about whales being buried in a vertical fashion?

Do you believe your a sinner?

 

[Loudmouth]

Do you believe your a sinner?

No more so than you believe that you are on Santa's Naughty list.

 

[Loudmouth]

Theories aren't proven. Theory is as high as it gets in science. For example, the Law of Gravity is a part of the larger Theory of Gravity.

And?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I would be more than happy to consider any evidence that you have to back these claims. Where is that evidence?

The ability to disprove the scripture of those accounts using the findings from Neanderthal by science.

Your evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

The ability to disprove the scripture of those accounts using the findings from Neanderthal by science.

The burden of proof lies with you, the person making the claim.

"Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."--Bertrand Russell

Your evidence.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”― Christopher Hitchens

 

[toolmanjantzi]

How could they not know? This claim has been known to be false for decades now, and yet it keeps popping up on creationist sites. How could they not know? You can't even apologize for the actual lie. Why is that? Did you forget to mention that the entire geologic formation is inclined due to uplift? Did you forget that the sediments and the whale were perfectly level when they formed, and were only moved after they lithified?

I've seen many sinkholes. Are they actually sinking or is the strata around them uplifting?

 

[Loudmouth]

I've seen many sinkholes. Are they actually sinking or is the strata around them uplifting?

Are you telling me that you can't tell the difference between a hole and a rock?

Added in edit: A nice little picture for you.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Did you just breeze past the part where I said that photons have no mass?

You mean density that can be measured?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

No more so than you believe that you are on Santa's Naughty list.

So your unable to admit error?

 

[Loudmouth]

You mean density that can be measured?

You claim that the best way to measure distance is to measure the amount of mass in a given volume.

The people who actually know what they are talking about say that the best method for measuring distance doesn't use mass at all.

That is why I said you are just making stuff up.

 

[Loudmouth]

So your unable to admit error?

I am fully able to admit error. Perhaps you should have asked that the first time.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Do you believe your a sinner?

Well, you are a grammar sinner, but as for myself, my answer will be more complicated than expected. Have I done immoral or bad things in my life? Of course, anyone who lives long enough to walk eventually does lie or other such nonsense. Do I think these little things make me a bad person? No. Overall I would say I am more neutral to slightly good than anything else, never going out of my way to be terrible, but rarely going out of my way to be generous either.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

And?

If there was more; we will add to it.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

The burden of proof lies with you, the person making the claim. "Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."--Bertrand Russell “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”- Christopher Hitchens

"And the incredulity with which he (Richard Dawkins) looked at me stays with me still. I've got to say."

Christopher Hitchens

Does evil exist?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Are you telling me that you can't tell the difference between a hole and a rock? Added in edit: A nice little picture for you.

Are you saying the Strata around the 40-50 degree lying whale was always rock?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

You claim that the best way to measure distance is to measure the amount of mass in a given volume. The people who actually know what they are talking about say that the best method for measuring distance doesn't use mass at all. That is why I said you are just making stuff up.

So your saying protons (light) is not measurable?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I am fully able to admit error. Perhaps you should have asked that the first time.

Are you a sinner? In other words by the definition of sin, have you committed sin; making you a sinner?

 

[PsychoSarah]

So your saying protons (light) is not measurable?

Things without mass don't have a size.