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I don't worry about being justified, i only worry about following the Lord. That's what it means to live by faith alone. Because i have faith, i naturally desire to do what the Lord has taught me. Not that it comes easy necessarily, but its my desire to please him.
I believe in the fruit of the holy spirit. That's my goal. I want to persevere and endure, hope in Christ instead of my own righteousness, and to be gentle, kind, humble minded, meek, compassionate, merciful, a doer of justice, patient, quiet and even empathetic. That's what i desire. I don't always meet that standard but i will keep trying always.
If im missing something, how could i be lead to desire these things and to understand them? To me this is evidence of the Lord working in me.
The bible is very clear.
Of course we need God's grace to follow his will, but that doesn't mean we are free to disobey.
Certainly, but you also said you believe in right living.I believe in salvation by faith alone.
Right.I believe in love above all things.
I agree...and that's a powerful testimony you gave. But I'm still persuaded that we might as well "have it all," meaning all that Jesus has offered to us. I'm far from suggesting that you delete any of the above.Not only is it the greatest command, but its taught throughout the NT above all else. I believe in the concept of right and wrong. I try to always to do right, but i'm not perfect. I believe in humility. Not only have i experienced the power of humility, but the Lord says that without it we cant enter the kingdom, and James says God resists pride and gives grace to the humble. I believe in enduring suffering if need be, as much as our ability can sustain.
If i do these things, i believe i will do well and the Lord will be pleased.
We are discussing the consequences for disobedience, not your personal behavior.
Certainly, but you also said you believe in right living.
Right.
I agree...and that's a powerful testimony you gave. But I'm still persuaded that we might as well "have it all," meaning all that Jesus has offered to us. I'm far from suggesting that you delete any of the above.
You said that you believe that we are saved by faith alone.
I don't think that is consistent scripture.
It is consistent with scripture. If it were not so then we would need to be perfect, but no one is perfect.
You don't need to teach me to obey the Lord because you can see that i already believe in obedience. If however you were teaching someone that, i would think that just teaching them the commands of Christ, and the exhortations of Paul would surely teach them to obey the Lord.
People who have real Faith do not become unrepentant sinners.I agree, we are not perfect. We will fail in our efforts to obey. However, that doesn't excuse us from the effort.
I believe that teaching "faith alone" salvation is a dangerous path that has led many to lose their faith.
Unrepentant sin can destroy a persons faith.
I agree, we are not perfect. We will fail in our efforts to obey. However, that doesn't excuse us from the effort.
I believe that teaching "faith alone" salvation is a dangerous path that has led many to lose their faith.
Unrepentant sin can destroy a persons faith.
Didi missunderstand again?
It must be faith alone because the Apostle paul has taught it that way, and in some pretty strong language too. However Pauls many exhortations will also teach us to obey. If a person doesnt want to obey after hearing Pauls exhortation then they must either have no faith at all, or are blinded. Only God can give faith and open our eyes.
Didi missunderstand again?
It must be faith alone because the Apostle paul has taught it that way, and in some pretty strong language too.
Albion said:People who have real Faith do not become unrepentant sinners.
I made the statement. Obviously, I'm not confused about what I meant.I understand perfectly. I was once as confused as you are now.
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