Imersion Baptism

[Nova Scotian Boy]

Wesleyan/Methodist ect usual dont practice adult believers baptism but, what if a member of a wesleyan/methodist ect church aprouchs the minister and asks them to adult baptise them through full imersion, is that allowed or would the Minister most likely turn that person down.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

From the UMC website:

"May I be baptized again?
No, baptism is an act of God, and God does it right the first time. Our side of the covenant relationship with God will need recommitment and reaffirmation, but God always remains faithful to the divine side."

Again, from the UMC:

"Is sprinkling the only that United Methodists baptize?
No, our church has always offered to people being baptized and to the parents of infants the choice of sprinkling, pouring, or immersion."

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People who have not received the sacrament of baptism may choose to be fully immersed, however; you may not be re-baptised.

See this thread, and this response in particular.

diane

 

[desert_island_1]

I have seen loads of adults get baptised in the Nazarene church.

 

[Onesimus85]

Wesleyan/Methodist ect usual dont practice adult believers baptism but, what if a member of a wesleyan/methodist ect church aprouchs the minister and asks them to adult baptise them through full imersion, is that allowed or would the Minister most likely turn that person down.

Hey NSB,
I asked a similar question in another thread. Check http://www.christianforums.com/t1784922-baptism.html and see if that helps you out any.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

I know several United Methodist's who were immersed. One my brother, three others cousins of mine. I was baptised (sprinkled) at the age of 35 along with my wife and six other adults and two children.

 

[herev]

I have baptized folks with full immersion, but if they have been baptized before, I can't do it

 

[talitha]

My father is a retired United Methodist pastor; he performed baptisms in all of the ways mentioned above, preferring something between sprinkling and pouring, but if someone requested baptism by immersion, it was always a special event.

I'm no longer involved in the UMC; I attend a nondenominational charismatic church.

I am aware that the UMC does not believe in OSAS; does anyone know what the official position of the UMC is regarding people who have wandered away from the Lord and later returned? Should these people be re-baptized? What do you all think?

blessings
tal

 

[Diane_Windsor]

I am aware that the UMC does not believe in OSAS; does anyone know what the official position of the UMC is regarding people who have wandered away from the Lord and later returned? Should these people be re-baptized? What do you all think?

blessings
tal

From my post above:

"May I be baptized again?

No, baptism is an act of God, and God does it right the first time. Our side of the covenant relationship with God will need recommitment and reaffirmation, but God always remains faithful to the divine side."

From the UMC. Bold emphasis mine.

Diane

 

[CarrieAg93]

My father is a retired United Methodist pastor; he performed baptisms in all of the ways mentioned above, preferring something between sprinkling and pouring, but if someone requested baptism by immersion, it was always a special event.

I'm no longer involved in the UMC; I attend a nondenominational charismatic church.

I am aware that the UMC does not believe in OSAS; does anyone know what the official position of the UMC is regarding people who have wandered away from the Lord and later returned? Should these people be re-baptized? What do you all think?

blessings
tal

Methodist ministers are not allowed to re-baptized people. They can do a re-dedication for someone.

 

[desert_island_1]

Question: If you were baptised in a different faith (ie. Catholic) as a baby and then as an adult/teen came to the UMC, would it be possible to get baptised in the UMC?

 

[awildflowerlady]

No, baptism is an act of God, and God does it right the first time.

This doctrine refers to the baptism by the Holy Spirit as in:

[BIBLE] Matthew 3

16As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. 17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

[/BIBLE]

I am just curious - being a Christian from a Southern Baptist upbringing. When thinking of baptism as a "must do" we often times forget about death bed decisions. There is no time to immerse someone on their death bed, yet the good Lord will not deny such a final commitment if baptism is missing.

Spiritual baptism by the Holy Spirit would be a wonderful way to view the events of a death bed commitment to Christ! Better late on that commitment then never!

 

[Diane_Windsor]

Question: If you were baptised in a different faith (ie. Catholic) as a baby and then as an adult/teen came to the UMC, would it be possible to get baptised in the UMC?

Are people not reading my posts? From my two posts above:

"May I be baptised again?

No, baptism is an act of God, and God does it right the first time. Our side of the covenant relationship with God will need recommitment and reaffirmation, but God always remains faithful to the divine side."

From the UMC. Emphasis mine.

http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=1251


The UMC website is clear-one may not be rebaptised under any circumstances.

Diane

 

[sinner/SAVED]

Question: If you were baptised in a different faith (ie. Catholic) as a baby and then as an adult/teen came to the UMC, would it be possible to get baptised in the UMC?

Catholics are Christians too. They are not "a different faith".

 

[awildflowerlady]

Catholics are Christians too. They are not "a different faith".

A Christian is one who has accepted Christ into the heart and life, which is the basic necessity of Christianity. That being said, Christians are found in all sorts of situations. Christians are separated or different from each other via doctrine and it is those differences that funnel down into a personal church affiliation. The wonderful blessing found here is that doctrine does not make the Christian, only Christ can do that!

Since it is lunchtime in my time zone, think of a hot dog. The dog and bun are the basics of the meal (aka a Christian - the hot dog by authority of Christ - the bun). Lunch (or life) is just not the same without it! Condiments (doctrine) enhance that meal. But not all hot dogs are going to have the same condiments! And removing the condiments does not change the basic hot dog.


As I understand the situation, we have two church systems - the universal body of Christ and the personal church affiliation. Both systems interact with one another to form a wonderfully supportive bond.

Scripture tells us that baptism offers an outward show of an inward blessing. Basically this effort is the condiment that can accompany the meal. From everything I have studied, I have yet to come across Christ teaching that heaven is missed out on if baptism does not occur.

I think this issue of baptism can be taken care of at any Christian church. Just look around and you will find one that welcomes you for baptism with open arms.

 

[herev]

technically, at the 2000 General Conference a motion was quietly passed stating that baptism in the Mormon faith is NOT recognized by the UMC, therefore, not only can we baptize them again, we are required to, but all other baptisms "count"

 

[Linnis]

I attend a Free-Methodist church and they baptize adults there.

 

[Ginn]

Desert - the simple answer - the UMC doesn't ultimately care what faith you were originally baptized in. Once you have been baptized, you've been baptized. If you joined a UMC church as an adult, after saying being baptized a Catholic, a UM pastor would probably do a re-dedication if you wanted, but would consider your becoming a Methodist a transfer from another denomination. No need to be re-baptized. Your sins were already washed away thru baptism.

 

[HeatherJay]

The Nazarene church also does re-affirmations of baptism is someone so desires. Babies can be baptized or dedicated (depending on the wishes of the parents) but neither is required...we have many people who reaffirm their infant baptisms when they reach adulthood (or at least as older children).

 

[greenonion]

I was baptized as an infant (2months) in a Methodist church.

This January I was baptised, by immersion, in a Nazarene church.

My Nazarene church believes in believers baptism and so do I. We do dedication of infants but that's all.

 

[greenonion]

Desert - the simple answer - the UMC doesn't ultimately care what faith you were originally baptized in. Once you have been baptized, you've been baptized. If you joined a UMC church as an adult, after saying being baptized a Catholic, a UM pastor would probably do a re-dedication if you wanted, but would consider your becoming a Methodist a transfer from another denomination. No need to be re-baptized. Your sins were already washed away thru baptism.

Wait a second- just want to clarify.

Does the Methodist church believe that baptism washes clean sins? I have never heard that, I thought it was the blood of Jesus that washes sins clean?