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also it would help if creationism actually had any positive evidence supporting it, eh? Not just being critical to evolution.Sounds like someone needs a qualified teacher.
[bible]1 Timothy 3:6[/bible]
Interesting --- the students instructing the teacher. What a novel concept.
This folks, is the number one reason I do not trust our public education system to teach Creationism --- unqualified teachers that can't defend their stance - (let alone teach it).
But how many can actually defend it well? In this forum alone, I see creationists stray all over the spectrum. They need to learn to use Genesis 1 like it was written --- sharper than a two-edged sword. And that takes practice.
As my pastor (?) pointed out, you put a sharp two-edged sword in someone's hand who doesn't know how to use it, and someone's gonna get hurt.
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Welcome back, Kotter.
also it would help if creationism actually had any positive evidence supporting it, eh? Not just being critical to evolution.
no point in teaching it then. Maybe creationist could campaign for the right to read out the statement "Goddidit" in kindergarten and then leave science education to the science teachers forever after, as they have nothing new to bring to the table anyway.No it wouldn't help. Anything leaving an audit trail would, by definition, be a natural process. We're talking ex nihilo divine creation. here; something that should leave no audit trail.
no point in teaching it then. Maybe creationist could campaign for the right to read out the statement "Goddidit" in kindergarten and then leave science education to the science teachers forever after, as they have nothing new to bring to the table anyway.
So, you don't need proof, you just need blind faith.No it wouldn't help. Anything leaving an audit trail would, by definition, be a natural process. We're talking ex nihilo divine creation. here; something that should leave no audit trail.
So, you don't need proof, you just need blind faith.
Blind faith?
[bible]Acts 17:23[/bible]
[bible]2 Timothy 1:12[/bible]
[bible]Hebrews 11:3[/bible]
Sounds like someone needs a qualified teacher.
Interesting --- the students instructing the teacher. What a novel concept.
This folks, is the number one reason I do not trust our public education system to teach Creationism --- unqualified teachers that can't defend their stance - (let alone teach it).
There are many truly ignorant, education is all that is necessary in those cases. The refractory cases are more likely delusional than ignorant.I don't expect anyone is actually ignorant enough to believe in creationism. I just assume people like you are having us all on.
I must admit i don't get it either. care to elaborate AV?This might interest you AV, you can buy a book like a thesaurus,
only instead it lists the subjects and then gives you a dozen or so bible verses to cover the subject,
it allows you to appear as if you know your bible even if you don't,
I suggest you get it, then the verses you use might have something to do with the subject under discussion.
This might interest you AV, you can buy a book like a thesaurus,
only instead it lists the subjects and then gives you a dozen or so bible verses to cover the subject,
it allows you to appear as if you know your bible even if you don't,
I suggest you get it, then the verses you use might have something to do with the subject under discussion.
I must admit i don't get it either. care to elaborate AV?
Acts 17:23 said:For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
2 Timothy 1:12 said:For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
Hebrews 11:3 said:Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
(some background)
I teach at a government school in Australia and my primary fields are English & senior philosophy. We've just started delving into philosophy of religion and to be fair, (and because it's contentious) I presented the case for Creationism. It was impartial, I backed it up non-sarcastically and gave as much "evidence" as I could.
I was almost laughed out of the room. All of my 20 or so students told me that creationism and intelligent design theory was utter junk. I challenged them and had them rationally support their arguments. After that, I had the idea to present creationism to my (year 12) senior class as well. Basically the same, but with better arguments against it.
I guess I'm saying, at least where *I* am, creationism is pretty much seen as outlandish and ridiculous.
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