I'm new to prepping

[angeltrue]

I'm unsettled over what is happening in this country and it appears that prophecy is being fulfilled. We're looking for a warm place to retire to and I'd like to have a small yard to grow food. Does anyone know of any good places in the warmer weather? Does everyone try to use solar or alternative energy sources?

I hope to learn some things in this community.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I'm unsettled over what is happening in this country and it appears that prophecy is being fulfilled. We're looking for a warm place to retire to and I'd like to have a small yard to grow food. Does anyone know of any good places in the warmer weather? Does everyone try to use solar or alternative energy sources?

I hope to learn some things in this community.

Come to Auckland New Zealand. Great climate. House prices a bit steep though.

 

[Lost4words]

Chernobyl has cheap house prices. Plus no neighbours!

 

[angeltrue]

Come to Auckland New Zealand. Great climate. House prices a bit steep though.

I would probably love being surrounded by the ocean but I wanted to stay in the U.S. near our family. But I'm keeping it in the back of my mind if the U.S. grows much worse.

 

[angeltrue]

Chernobyl has cheap house prices. Plus no neighbours!

 

[Jon Osterman]

Chernobyl has cheap house prices. Plus no neighbours!

I have been inside the Chernobyl restricted zone. The radiation levels are actually pretty low, and it is remarkable how wildlife is flurishing without humans. It was very pretty. But of course there are no amenities, like water, power or shops, so leaving there would be challenging (and illegal).

 

[Lost4words]

I have been inside the Chernobyl restricted zone. The radiation levels are actually pretty low, and it is remarkable how wildlife is flurishing without humans. It was very pretty. But of course there are no amenities, like water, power or shops, so leaving there would be challenging (and illegal).

You found it hard to leave there then? And it was illegal to leave? Lol

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

You found it hard to leave there then? And it was illegal to leave? Lol

Reminds me that you can't fool a radiologist, because he can see right through you!

 

[angeltrue]

I have been inside the Chernobyl restricted zone. The radiation levels are actually pretty low, and it is remarkable how wildlife is flurishing without humans. It was very pretty. But of course there are no amenities, like water, power or shops, so leaving there would be challenging (and illegal).

How long after a disaster like that can it be before a place is permitted to be inhabited again?

 

[drjean]

Chernobyl is never... however there are people still living in the area... amazingly.
Some of them are Jewish Russians and CUFI or another Jewish foundation take them food each month.

But that brings up a good point. In a natural disaster, if your home is not destroyed, you might be allowed into the area. NOTE YOU MUST HAVE in your BOB proof of recent residence... a light bill or mortgage/rent payment with the address AND your DL or other state ID card with the address. Friends and relatives won't get in.
Then, if you are allowed to stay, if the electricity has been shut off 'in the area' because of wide-spread damage, you will have to contact them and receive a COO approval (certificate of occupancy) saying it's safe to stay and that the power company (which you also contacted and had come out) can turn the power back onto your home. THIS TAKES TIME when there are say, 80,000 homes like in Hurricane Andrew.) Each home is inspected in time, and indicators painted on the outside of the walls of the house... as to whether they found anyone, found someone dead, whether they condemned the house or deem it safe...etc. THIS TAKES TIME. Be prepared to go a week to a month 'on your own' even if you have a livable home.

 

[SpiritSong]

I live in the mountains in a National Forest. Life is pretty good here. There are about 10 churches to choose from. I always wanted to be a hillbilly when I was a kid!

 

[drjean]

Does it ice/
snow there and if so, are the roads level?

 

[SpiritSong]

It does snow somewhat, but usually melts in a day or 2 at most. There was a blizzard many years ago, but generally they get the main roads cleaned up in an hour or so, and keep doing so while it is snowing if need be.

Some of the roads are level, like in the valley. Some of them are anything but! In the mountains. There is a main national highway running through the valley though, which is nice.

I love it here. I would like to stay here for the rest of my life, God willing.

 

[angeltrue]

Chernobyl is never... however there are people still living in the area... amazingly.
Some of them are Jewish Russians and CUFI or another Jewish foundation take them food each month.

But that brings up a good point. In a natural disaster, if your home is not destroyed, you might be allowed into the area. NOTE YOU MUST HAVE in your BOB proof of recent residence... a light bill or mortgage/rent payment with the address AND your DL or other state ID card with the address. Friends and relatives won't get in.
Then, if you are allowed to stay, if the electricity has been shut off 'in the area' because of wide-spread damage, you will have to contact them and receive a COO approval (certificate of occupancy) saying it's safe to stay and that the power company (which you also contacted and had come out) can turn the power back onto your home. THIS TAKES TIME when there are say, 80,000 homes like in Hurricane Andrew.) Each home is inspected in time, and indicators painted on the outside of the walls of the house... as to whether they found anyone, found someone dead, whether they condemned the house or deem it safe...etc. THIS TAKES TIME. Be prepared to go a week to a month 'on your own' even if you have a livable home.

I never thought it would be that complicated to get back into your own home. I was looking in an area of FL that I liked but it's in a very high hurricane area. I don't know anyone who lives in one - do you know how bad the hurricanes in FL get? Do people evacuate even if they're more in the middle of the state?

 

[angeltrue]

I live in the mountains in a National Forest. Life is pretty good here. There are about 10 churches to choose from. I always wanted to be a hillbilly when I was a kid!

You're allowed to live in a National forest? I had read that the U.N. was taking over America's national parks.

 

[SpiritSong]

A National Forest and a National Park are two entirely different things.

 

[drjean]

Well, when you live in any area that can be hit by a hurricane you're relying upon God to get you through. While the category 3, 4, 5, do terrible damage, the real stuff is all the tornadoes that they create. There are no basements in Florida... unless you purposely put one in if you are in central or northern FL where you have DIRT.

I've lived through some really bad ones, one as a child when I had no fear (Donna) and two more since (Andrew, Wilma). The last one that was threatening they used all of FL as a beta test for evacuating... we didn't need to but they did it and many of us wonder why (to install cameras to watch us, sound devices to control us later on? Can't have all those phone cameras and tweets asking questions you know?) I was already out of State and just delayed returning 2 weeks.

The right to personally own property was signed away by Clinton (to the UN, NWO) but that was the first thing that Bush renegged upon...go figure as I doubt he would do that today. Actually the rights to own property, how to use our water, whether we would have to have an abortion... many, many things that Act took over that other countries have agreed to as well.

Actually ANY area that has damage can be closed off by officials and even residents cannot return until THEY say so... think of the people with the fires out west. But only those with address photo ID are allowed in then.

ALL of Florida is considered a flood zone...but there are a few areas of Zone X where you probably won't flood, and don't have to buy additional flood insurance. I know the area that floods bad in the Panhandle didn't use to have to buy flood insurance and the rest of Fl residents paid for their damage if/when. I hope that's changed.

Even inland central FL gets NO sea breeze and can be quite stiffling.

 

[DaDad]

I'm unsettled over what is happening in this country and it appears that prophecy is being fulfilled. We're looking for a warm place to retire to and I'd like to have a small yard to grow food. Does anyone know of any good places in the warmer weather? Does everyone try to use solar or alternative energy sources?

I hope to learn some things in this community.

• As a rule of thumb, people can be dangerous. Rural is best.
• If there are major cities (or major "targets") make sure you are up-wind. Thirty miles or further is better. (The wind COULD be blowing from the East on that day.)
  
• If there are major cities (or major "targets") it helps to be in the shadow of a mountain to protect from an EMP. Airbursts are typically 3,000 ft for concrete and 9,000 ft for cities.
  
• The best protection from intrusion is "invisibility". Do not go outside unless necessary. A bowl of "Augason Farms" ~porridge~ is better than a fresh caught fish.
• Propane never goes bad. It can run a generator, cook your food (without smoke), and a gas light puts out about 25W of incandescent.
• A six month supply of food and essentials are a minimum. A year's supply is prudent.
• We have about 2 1/2 years until we'll enter future events. It may seem like 2 1/2 years is plenty of time, but in reality it's very little time.
• It's great to plan for eventualities, but more important that the plan include your extended family.

Mr. Frank should have fled Europe, but instead he "prepared" an attic in the business with his gentile partner. In the end, EVERYONE in the hiding place perished, including his precious daughter Anne. Mr. Frank was the ONLY survivor. Perhaps he could have done more, perhaps we should anticipate more.

With Best Regards,
DaDad

 

[drjean]

Sounds good. The EMP though, without faraday boxes your electronics will be useless....(and even if yours is protected, with whom and how you going to talk without cell towers etc?) and no way to shield the vehicle, which all have electronics in them to run (so plan on no vehicle unless you have a horse or mule or bike.)

So you could have a notebook, HD, hotsticks in a faraday box for info you have on it, (hermetically sealed because the pulses get through otherwise) -- like an old microwave that doesn't leak. And again, you'd have to keep it all in there when you aren't using them and hope the EMP doesn't occur while you're using it

 

[DaDad]

Sounds good. The EMP though, without faraday boxes your electronics will be useless ... and no way to shield the vehicle

Unless you're in the shadow of a mountain ...

Of course, it's possible to build a giant faraday cage inside your two car garage, and both vehicles will be fully protected, which may be overkill, because every aspect of an airburst is radius cubed root, so distance helps. And disconnecting the battery helps. And even a couple of mylar tarps might help. But be sure whatever faraday cage you prefer, that NOTHING you want to protect touches the actual cage conductors, which can simply consist of a trash can; or possibly six foot wide aluminum screen material with folded seams, and grounded. Everything inside will be protected. -- Yeah, I actually built one for a Chemical Vapor Deposition process.

Thanks,
DaDad