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I'm new and I have questions!!!

Discussion in 'For New Christians' started by Jamie, Jul 27, 2002.

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  1. Jamie

    Jamie Ezekiel!! Ezekiel!!

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    Hi all... I just signed up for this forum... so far it looks great, and with all the members, I'm sure I can get a lot of questions answered!!! I've only been saved for about 6 weeks now, so I WILL have tons of questions, I hope you don't mind if I ask a lot  ;)

    anyway... here is what I've been thinking about lately... maybe some of you can enlighten me :help:

    First.. about prayer... do you have to pray outloud or can you pray in your head? because I have been praying in my head all the time. I heard somewhere that satan can't hear your thoughts, is this true?

    whenever I feel satan is trying to do something in my life, I say outloud "satan you go, you are no longer welcome in my house/car/office/LIFE!!! God is my Master, and He is the only one I will follow!!!" is this the right thing for me to say?

    also, is there anywhere in the Bible that talks about animals being guides for us? I'm asking because about 3 years ago (before I was saved) I thought I had an animal guide, it was a crow, and I would get messages from him (It's a long story, but one time I almost hit a little girl while driving, but I heard a crow gawking at me, and I got a message to slow down, so I did, thus avoiding hitting the girl!!!) Now I think it was just God protecting me, or the girl, but the crow has been gawking at me again, and the other day I said in my head "I don't know if you are from God or the devil, so I am not going to respond to you until I know, so if you are from God, please stop gawking at me" and it stopped!!!!

    this is why I want to know if the devil can hear our thoughts!!! Please don't think I'm crazy, before I found the Lord, I was searching anywhere I could find to make my life right, and honestly NOTHING worked until I turned to God, but the crow did give me faith back then, now I'm just confused if I should still accept him, or tell him to be gone!!!

    thank you for bareing with me while I discover everything I need to know!!!
     
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  2. KeepTheFaith15

    KeepTheFaith15 Thats Me whats can i say?

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    heehee i was beggining to think your crazy..lol but no i hear things too. j/p sometimes i pray outloud and sometimes i pray in my head in really doesnt matter cause god hears all your prayers no matter how loud or how soft they are. and about animals being our guideance i wouldnt know what to say on that one, it sounds pretty cool that a crow would save you from killing a little girl. i know that wasnt the devil cause the devil would have just made you run right smack over that girl. and it's good that you say those things to satan.!! keep it up and god bless
     
  3. psycmajor

    psycmajor self-Banned

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    You usually pray out loud if there are other people nearby praying with you. I usually just do it in my head.

    Belief that animals themselves are messengers is kinda a New Age belief, something that you might want to shy away from. I think God sent the crow to get your attention so that you might not hit the girl, which is really cool. The crow is not like a "mini-god." The focus should be on God, not the crow.

    Romans 1:25
    For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    In other words, God is greater than His creation. We must treat Him that way.

    YES! Satan CAN hear your thoughts! I know that because many evil thoughts have come into my head that I know God would have never said to me. Satan is very intelligent, but Jesus is stronger!
     
  4. Blessed-one

    Blessed-one a long journey ahead

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    yep, usually in a church setting.... and before meals, when praying in a gathering, i pray outloud. Sometimes i tried doing that when i was alone, but that felt so weird... anyway, that's just me. :) oh, and don't forget to pray in Jesus's name, and remember, you can pray anywhere and anytime with anything that you want to talk about with the Father.

    i agree with psycmajor about the crow. An animal is an animal afterall, and putting trust in it is like putting trust on something other than God. The Israelites had found that a hard lesson when they put thier trust in the golden calf in the OT.
     
  5. Droobie

    Droobie Rebmem Raluger

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    Romans 10:9-10 (Amplified)

    <SUP>9</SUP>Because if you acknowledge and confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and in your heart believe (adhere to, trust in, and rely on the truth) that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
    <SUP>10</SUP>For with the heart a person believes (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Christ) and so is justified (declared righteous, acceptable to God), and with the mouth he confesses (declares openly and speaks out freely his faith) and confirms [his] salvation.


    The spoken word contains great power.&nbsp; The power to heal, to reconcile, to hurt, to cause pain.&nbsp; We need to be careful of what we say.&nbsp; God knows what we are thinking, and also knows what we are going to pray for; even before we say it.&nbsp; However He wants our confession, for us to step out in faith and actually say/pray it outloud.
     
  6. ZiSunka

    ZiSunka It means 'yellow dog'

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    Yeah!!&nbsp; Yippee!! Welcome to the family of God!!


    This is pure myth.&nbsp; The Bible doesn't say that satan can't hear our thoughts.&nbsp; This is acutally an old Russian superstition.&nbsp; In fact,&nbsp;most of prayers in the Bible were spoken outloud.&nbsp; Jesus sure didn't mind praying out loud!&nbsp; So, it doesn't look like saying them in your head is necessary.

    Bravo!&nbsp; The Bible says, "Resist satan, and he will flee from you."&nbsp;

    It doesn't.&nbsp; There are NO animal guides in the Bible.&nbsp; Animals can do the will of God, and I bet that crow was being used by God to get your attention so you wouldn't hit the little girl, but that doesn't mean that every crow is a messenger from God.&nbsp; It is likely neither from God or satan, just a crow acting like a crow

    God will speak to people in ways that they will pay attention to.&nbsp; He sent a crow to you because he knew you would pay attention to that.&nbsp; You were unsaved, and wouldn't listen to his voice, and he knew it and sent an animal to do his "talking."&nbsp; But now you are saved, and he has so many other ways to speak to you, so don't worry about the crow.&nbsp; If God wants to talk to you now, your heart will be able to hear him!
     
  7. Kim777

    Kim777 New Member

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    I'm in agreement with Lambslove. we have no Scriptual basis to believe that satan can read our thoughts. I think that the only way that he can tell what we are thinking or if he is having an effect on us is by what we say or what we do. This is just another reason why we need to be careful, not paranoid, but careful to measure and control our words. There are many scriptures that speak to this, in particular Proverbs 18:21 which says that life and death are in the power of the tongue. Scripture also doesnt indicate that God shares the ability to examine the heart and mind of man with the Devil or anyone else. I think that satan may have a "conception" of what a person may be thinking. But he does have a few thousand years of experience to draw from. He knows how men usually think and react, he knows our weaknesses, both corporately and personally and of course is out to exploit them.
    I pray both out loud and to myself, depending on where I am, and what's going on around me. I know that the "sword of the spirit" is a very powerful weapon against evil, and satan will flee, when we praise or pray out loud, he hates it when we do that. I don't believe that there is a wrong or right way in either praying outloud or to yourself. No matter how you pray it is an extremely important part of victory as Believers in our struggle with the evil one- which is something satan wants us to doubt and walk in confusion about. Always remember that satan is defeated, he has nowhere near the power and none of the authority which our God has; and as God's children, we are victorious warriors in Christ with all the power necessary to overcome all the power of the devil ( Luke 10:19).
     
  8. psycmajor

    psycmajor self-Banned

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    Satan can read your thoughts! An idea that God would not agree with comes to your mind, and Satan just eggs it on! Or, it just came straight from Satan! I know this personally.

    There was someone who really hurt me about a year and a half ago. I thought about how much she hurt me, and I believe Satan took advantage of the situation, and egged me on. I think he planted ideas such as, "Look what she did to you! She needs to be paid back! Don't you hate her?" The more I thought about it, the worse it God. I just believe that Satan exacerbated the situation. It is true, "Idle hands are the devil's playground," and I think that is at least partly what happened to me. I did not want to turn the other cheek for the longest time (Mt 5:39), and this anger consumed me for a long time, until I decided that this anger inspired in me was not doing me any good.

    Judas was a Biblical example:

    Luke 22:3-4
    And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, belonging to the number of the twelve. 4 And he went away and discussed with the chief priests and officers how he might betray Him to them.

    John 13:2
    During supper, the devil having already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray Him,
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    Acts 5:3
    But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land?

    John 8:44
    44 "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

    Matthew 5:37
    But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

    1 Timothy 4:1
    1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,

    I'm not going to tickle your ears with what you want to hear. DO NOT BE DECEIVED! You have to wonder, 'Why does Satan know exactly how to push the right buttons with me to get me to sin?'

    Matthew 13:19
    "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road.

    Luke 8:12
    "Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved.

    Matthew 6:13
    13 'And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]'

    1 Peter 5:8
    Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

    2 Corinthians 2:10-11
    10 But one whom you forgive anything, I forgive also; for indeed what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, I did it for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.

    Ephesians 6:11
    Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.
     
  9. mel3

    mel3 Member

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    The question as to does satan read our thoughts is one that I brought up on another forum. I got many different opinions and still do not know the answer. I have always felt like he was capable. However, the more that I think about it, I am still confused. Some argued that we give Satan more credit than he is worth. He is a fallen angel.angels have no power to read our thoughts. There isn't any scripture that confidently says he can or can't. Main thing to remember, do your best to keep your thoughts clean. Not because satan knows your thoughts, but because God does, and we don't want to hinder our relationship with Him.
     
  10. psycmajor

    psycmajor self-Banned

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    I provided some scripture; interpret it as you will.

    Remember, Satan is VERY intelligent. I am certain that his powers far surpass humans. But, greater is He that is in us than is the one in the world.
     
  11. Kyle

    Kyle Citizen of Heaven in Christ

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    Praise God Jamie! Would love to hear how you came to Christ! Maybe you could treat us to a quick testimony?

    Every new believer is in warfare, I will pray for you to get in His Word!

    I agree with what was said about the crow and prayer.

    However, none of the verses in this thread give an iota of evidence that satan can read thoughts. satan wants to keep us in fear, and out of the Word. satan wants to appear as though he is very smart and omniscient.

    satan can implant lies into our minds, as the verses in this thread show; but, he most certainly cannot read our minds.

    ONLY God knows all things, and knows our True thoughts (Psalm 94:11)

    Also, we make our own decisions about what we want to think about. Do we choose to oppose God or please God?

    satan is not too intelligent. In fact, he's an outright moron- he is trying to wage a war against God, that God has already won!

    When you feel attacked by satan, who wants us all in sin, the best thing to do is to "fix your eyes on Jesus" and get in your Bible!

    Check out Matthew 6 for a great lesson on prayer.

    For a new believer, it is VITAL to get in the habit of studying the Word.

    Every answer is in the Bible. Good to see both sides in various topics, but to always read the Word yourself to see the Truth. Interpretation is not needed, just an understanding of the whole Truth.

    Here is an outstanding article on the subject of satan not being able to read our minds, as the Bible says:

    http://www.epm.org/readmind.html
     
  12. scott

    scott New Member

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    Satan speaking to your mind to plant thoughts is alot different than reading your thoughts. for him the know your thoughts would be giving him an ability that the Bible only speaks of God having. Further Satan is not omnipresent, omniscient, or omnipotent. And since he would rather put his efforts into "BIGGER FISH" I would assume that most of us have only been attacked by demons. So the question would then become can an average demon read your thoughts. I don't think there is any Biblical precedent for it.
    Scott
     
  13. carmen

    carmen Active Member

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    Welcome, Hi and congratulations on the best decision you will ever maded in your life. There have been some wonderful answers so will not go over.
    satan not being able to hear our thoughts. But having been around awhile he has had time to learn on how humans think and respond. Or on the crow.
    But now the Holy Spirit of God who lives on the inside of you is your guide and teacher. teaching books or even studies books on the Holy Spirit, what it is to be born again, the gifts of the Holy Spirit and how God speaks to us and how God speaks through his word would be of value to you.
    Also praying in the name of Jesus . Rebuking satan in the name of Jesus.

    God Bless you.
     
  14. carmen

    carmen Active Member

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    Thought this might interest you.

    October 14

    That Glorious Name

    "And I will do--I Myself will grant--whatever you may ask in My name
    [presenting all I AM] so that the Father may be glorified and extolled
    in [through] the Son."

    -- (John 14:13, The Amplified Bible)

    In Jesus' Name. It's more than a phrase we tack onto the end of our
    prayers. All that God is and does is represented in the Name of Jesus.
    The Amplified Bible says when you ask in His Name, you present your
    requests to the Father on the basis of all that Jesus is. So you can
    boldly expect to have those requests granted--not because you're worthy,
    but because He is!

    What's more, the Name of Jesus carries authority over all other names.
    In Philippians 2:5-11, the Apostle Paul tells us, "God also hath highly
    exalted him [Jesus], and given him a name which is above every name:
    That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven,
    and things in earth, and things under the earth."

    In spite of all the Word of God has to say about the power of the Name
    of Jesus, most believers don't seem to put much stock in it. They'll
    pray in the Name of Jesus, then turn right around and say, "I sure hope
    God answers that prayer." They don't realize that if they only had the
    faith to believe it, Jesus' Name alone carries enough clout to guarantee
    their prayers will be answered.

    They even let religious slang rob them of the power of using that Name.
    I've heard many a well-meaning believer end his prayer with the phrase,
    "For Jesus' sake." But Jesus didn't say to pray for His sake. He said to
    pray in His Name.

    I used to make that mistake myself. One night I was praying because I
    was suffering from a stomachache. "Oh, for Jesus' sake," I prayed, "heal
    my stomach."

    After I'd said that a few times, the Lord spoke up on the inside of me.
    "Wait a minute," He said, "whose stomach is hurting here, Mine or
    yours?"

    "Mine!" I answered.

    Then He very plainly said, "In that case, pray for your stomach's sake,
    in My Name!"

    Jesus' Name. Dig into the Word and find out just how much power and
    authority it really carries. Then use that power every time you pray.
    Stop hoping God will answer and start expecting Him to cause every
    circumstance in your life to bow its knee in honor of that glorious
    Name!


    -- Kenneth Copeland

    SCRIPTURE READING: John 16:13-24
     
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