I'm Indonesian..

[dew1]

Indonesia is a beautiful country, with various culture and race.
and likely going to be Arabs soon

Recently I realize how tough Christians survives, that I ignore before, after I live in other country, and see from different angle.

I heard a lot of news come from cities in Indonesia going to practice Islamic way. So sad, but nothing can do.


Are there any Indonesian in this forum?
I would like to meet Indonesian in this forum and sharing about what happen today in our beloved country and our beloved countrymen.


but, I welcome others CF's members who interested to know about Indonesia, or want to share their view about Indonesia..

 

[Kurama]

You've mistaken "Arab" for "Muslim". Remember that Arab is an ethnicity, while Muslim is an adherent to Islam. Your post looks very racist in that case.

Although I don't think highly of Islam, Indonesia has tried to follow Turkey's secular approach to some avail. It is far more liberal than most Muslim countries, thus I don't think you should worry so much about Islam in Indonesia (though there will always be a minority of idiots).

The Middle East is a whole different story...

 

[dew1]

You've mistaken "Arab" for "Muslim". Remember that Arab is an ethnicity, while Muslim is an adherent to Islam. Your post looks very racist in that case.

hi Kurama..
what I'm trying to say here was,
for an Arab not necessarily to be a Muslim, as we aware there are some Arabs are Christians, or pagans or etc.
but its Muslim's necessity to be "like" Arab.

Although I don't think highly of Islam, Indonesia has tried to follow Turkey's secular approach to some avail.

give me some example

It is far more liberal than most Muslim countries, thus I don't think you should worry so much about Islam in Indonesia (though there will always be a minority of idiots).

please note that Indonesia is not Islamic country though it has Muslim's majority population.
honestly, the Muslims in Indonesia is not as much as what reported. There are a phenomenon, where the pagans/atheists in Indonesia have to write "Islam" in their ID card religion column.
or some Muslims who have secretly convert from Islam to other religion never change the religion column in their ID card. for they scared to invite trouble. Despite this phenomenon, Indonesia is most Muslims majority anyway.
some place in Indonesia has more than one mosque in one region plus megaphone in every mosque...can you imagine? 5 times a day... (no no, sometimes more than 5 times), how noisy is it? it would be OK for me, if the church allowed to do the same..at least to ring their bell every sunday morning.. or at least, all Christians allowed to worship their God in churches, instead of stoned the church and makes the Christians do the mass in the street.

and also, Muslim sunni in Indonesia have torture the other Muslims(shia, ahmadiyah, dll).

The Middle East is a whole different story...

 

[canisee]

Bless you and welcome to CF.

 

[dew1]

thank you canisee..

 

[AgnosticGuest]

Indonesia is a beautiful country, with various culture and race.
and likely going to be Arabs soon

Recently I realize how tough Christians survives, that I ignore before, after I live in other country, and see from different angle.

I heard a lot of news come from cities in Indonesia going to practice Islamic way. So sad, but nothing can do.


Are there any Indonesian in this forum?
I would like to meet Indonesian in this forum and sharing about what happen today in our beloved country and our beloved countrymen.


but, I welcome others CF's members who interested to know about Indonesia, or want to share their view about Indonesia..

I am - however I am no Christian as my username would suggest.
I WAS a Christian (more specifically, Catholic), and I know that Christians are a minority, as Muslims make up for the majority. I was raised as a Catholic but over time became an Agnostic... Which most likely would be even harder to survive as. (Most people around here don't even know what "Agnostic" means when I tell them I'm one...)

So yes, I'm an Agnostic, raised in an environment of Catholics, that is in a country with mostly Muslim people.