I'm Homeless But I'm Happy

Urban Monk · Oct 27, 2009

coolchicka said:
[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] seriously I dont wanna sound mean but 1,500 is a good amount of money. Say you found a 1 bedroom apartment for like $300.00 a month then all the utilities ran another $100.00 a month jeeze thats only $400.00 a month on bills you would still have around a 1,000 to spend on yourself a month im lucky if I have $200.00 to last for 2 weeks. Or find a roommate to split the cost of rent.

U really think its that simple don't u?

presto · Oct 27, 2009

Urban Monk said:
U really think its that simple don't u?

I dont know what country/state that person is living in that is getting 300$ a month for rent without living in the heart of compton or some other gheto. 100$ in utilities maybe 60 years ago lol (garbage, gas, electric, water is going to run you more than 100$). What is the point of having a place if you are not going to have internet you will end up spending all your time where you have wireless internet anyways so if you dont have internet at your place you will never be there. The only logic I could see to having a place is if its pretty nice and you want to be there or a place to have sex with your wife/GF, having sex in a car is not all that. You probably have to eat out alot because you dont have a place to really prepare food but I dont know if the difference between eating out and eating in is enough to make up for the cost of rent (which is about 400-500 in most places) or even come close for that matter.

I will reitterate I would save for an education first rather than a house becuase if you get married and divorced that house can go by by, no one can take your education. I recommend reading the dark side of venus and its companion book which I will not mention on here from amazon.

coolchicka · Oct 29, 2009

presto said:
I dont know what country/state that person is living in that is getting 300$ a month for rent without living in the heart of compton or some other gheto. 100$ in utilities maybe 60 years ago lol (garbage, gas, electric, water is going to run you more than 100$). What is the point of having a place if you are not going to have internet you will end up spending all your time where you have wireless internet anyways so if you dont have internet at your place you will never be there. The only logic I could see to having a place is if its pretty nice and you want to be there or a place to have sex with your wife/GF, having sex in a car is not all that. You probably have to eat out alot because you dont have a place to really prepare food but I dont know if the difference between eating out and eating in is enough to make up for the cost of rent (which is about 400-500 in most places) or even come close for that matter.

I will reitterate I would save for an education first rather than a house becuase if you get married and divorced that house can go by by, no one can take your education. I recommend reading the dark side of venus and its companion book which I will not mention on here from amazon.

Not in ohio in some of the small towns that I live in. This one apartment complex has one bedroom that are $300.00 a month and also included in the rent is garbage. And I know people that live there are only paying $80.00 dollars a month for utilities. So yea. Having a roof over your head is a nessary. Ok urban monk you have a car right? What about the place you have to pay your car insurance to? Dont you get tired of that? Well you need a car to get around in right? Also there are some apartments around here that go strictly on income. Some people are living in these for like $20.00 dollars a month. All I can say is have fun not being able to hardly have any personal belongings because you have no apartment to keep it all in.

Urban Monk · Oct 29, 2009

coolchicka said:
All I can say is have fun not being able to hardly have any personal belongings because you have no apartment to keep it all in.

Funny how u call yourself a Christian but u are trying to insult me. I can tell where you're going to in the afterlife. But anyways, I don't let the opinions of fools frustrate me. I have plenty of personal belongings, Xbox 360, laptop, DVDs, videogames, etc. I know how to store items and yes I use them on a daily basis. Being homeless takes skill. Besides, even if I had a house or apartment to store more stuff, it would be useless because I probably wouldn't be able to afford more stuff

coolchicka · Oct 29, 2009

Urban Monk said:
Certain kinds of females do. I still get to enjoy the luxury of a female. Right now is not the time for me to explain how. First I want u all to understand my view of the world first then I will get into how I get women, although I do hope to settle down with one woman one day and start a family

Um..... Kids take MONEY.......... Also you cant raise your kids on the street or child services WILL take your kids away for not providing them with a place to live? Also may I ask how old are you?

coolchicka · Oct 29, 2009

My boyfriend wants to tell you some things..........You can"t take those X boxs and other things too heaven..Plus you said my girlfriend is not a christian?? You calling the potkettle black there...sound like to me you got some serious issues...your complaining your making 1500 a month...try living on less then 800 a month!!! My aunt only made $800.00 a month and she had $300.00 rent $90.00 for phone/cable/internet. Around $80.00 month utlities. And she had to by gas for her van and food to eat! And insurance for her van!..Sound like to me money rules you and thats a sin in God eye's.. All you love to pleasure your self and no one else thats very selfish....To me you didnt have much of a childhood if that true what you said about your rich parents?.. Be in my shoe's..My mom was married three times...Lived with my grandparents when mom moved back with her parents..Was mostly raised by my grandparents..My stepfather abused me from 6-16 yearold..He kick me punched and thrown me around..Had a mother that got her rocks off is seeing me abused...Ran away from home 6 times.. Gave my mom an choice ,you pic me or my stepfather! Guess what she picked him over me her own flesh&blood...But I forgave them but not forget..God will deal with then in his own way and time!!Do you want to trade parents??!!! Anyway your car takes money too.. If your car breaks down you have to pay to get it fixed too.....Too Me your being stupied with your money...All you want to do is keep your money and sponge off your friends....God is going to give you one heck of a wake up call and your not going to like it..

BasinBrat · Oct 30, 2009

Im surprised that $1500 a month is considered a small amount of money. I live on $600 a month and that does me fine. I have a flat; and can eat, drink and make merry. I just have to do all of that on the cheap.

While I don't have a car and have never been homeless, the nomadic lifestyle is very attractive. I love backpacking and thumbing around. But, really, I like knowing I have a roof to get under when the weather turns. Though if you can live without it, more power to you.

HannahBanana · Oct 30, 2009

Urban Monk said:
I know what u are saying by being safe but I have no fear. Fear is a weapon that demonic forces use against people. If I have to be brave and not have a home in order to live happily, then that is what I will do.

Fear is actually quite necessary sometimes. If we weren't able to feel any fear at all, we wouldn't feel any need get ourselves out of dangerous and/or deadly situations. So no, not all fear is demonic. (Not that you can even prove that demons exist, that is.)

And if you have no fear at all, then are you saying that you wouldn't try to get away from someone who was trying to mug you, shoot you, or stab you? You'd just let them do whatever they wanted to you? If so, then that's quite a foolish attitude to have.

HannahBanana · Oct 30, 2009

Urban Monk said:
U really think its that simple don't u?

Okay, so what's so complicated about your particular situation, and what makes it hard for you to budget your money like CoolChicka suggested?

KGirl · Nov 2, 2009

"Your correct pre maritial counseling would be useful, but just going to counseling because of his life style choise does not seem prudent."

I would not suggest counseling simply because of his lifestyle, but because of his family issues. He has no contact to them.

And to Urban Monk: I know it isn't cool that someone would insult you, but judging them saying they will go to hell is not your place. I respect you as I do anyone, but felt the need to say that you can be better then they are being.

Urban Monk · Nov 2, 2009

Shyguyelite said:
In any case, I will say that to me it sounds almost silly to throw away thousands of years of human struggle, ingenuity, social upheaval, knowledge, and sometimes dumb luck just to save a few bucks!

Its not all about saving a few bucks, its also about financial fairness. I don't like the idea of making other people rich at the expense of me getting poorer. That seems like oppression

Macx · Nov 2, 2009

So . . .. you aren't okay with capitalism?

Macx · Nov 4, 2009

Main Entry: cap·i·tal·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\
Function: noun
Date: 1877
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Thank you Webster.

If I own property which is zoned as rental property, with the proper firecode, plumbing, amenities and such. . .. that would be my capital. Should an individual need a place to stay and be willing to pay what I ask to stay in my property, we draw up an agreement called a lease. A lease outlines his responisibilities as my renter and my responsibilities as his landlord. We sign the lease. He is getting a service in the form of use of my capital and I am getting rent in exchange. Nobody is ripped off . . . that is capitalism at work.

I make jewelry, I put some of it up for sale, someone pays the price I ask for the goods I sell. If I need to sell more than they are willing to afford, I may have to drop my price. If they buy it at the decreased price, I have agreed to sell it at the decreased price and they are agreeing to buy it. Nobody is ripped off . . . that is how capitalism works.

almost 700$ on a decent set of michiline

Bacon2, you had to spend more to buy name brand tires. That isn't a bit different than complaining that you have to spend more to get one of my works in Lapis than the same with Agate. You chose to buy the more expensive (than generic) tire which may arguably be better . . . you probably could have paid more for Pirelli Scorpions, but you chose not to. That was your choice, nobody got ripped off . . . that was capitalism at work.

It ain't hard. You want stuff, they got stuff, you got money, you give money, you get stuff, they get money .. . everybody happy, nobody robbed. Hope I broke that down clear enough. The alternative is clear:

KGirl · Nov 4, 2009

I have to agree more on the side of Macx.. If you want something good (such as a living space) you would have to pay money for it. Basically as we have to work for anything else..

KGirl · Nov 5, 2009

I wasn't saying that to say something bad about his not wanting to get a place. That's his business. If it isn't hurting anyone and not against God, then more power to him..

Macx · Nov 5, 2009

KGirl said:
I wasn't saying that to say something bad about his not wanting to get a place. That's his business. If it isn't hurting anyone and not against God, then more power to him..

Exactly. As an anarcho-capitalist (see my Avatar pic) I am very much opposed to coercion and artificial manipulation of the market. If the man doesn't want to buy whatever product (realestate or rented space) I by all means don't believe he should be coerced or forced to e.g. institutionalized for vagrancy or mental illness because of the choice not to conform to social norms. At the same time, I respect private property owners and their claims to property they own . . . so I wouldn't blame them for moving him (the OP) along (by whatever force, law enforcement, violence, etc.) if he squats on their property. Given that public property is generally regulated (parks close, campsite fees, etc.) the opportunity to live for free, free of housing cost I mean, is EXCEPTIONALLY limited.

What I take offense at, is the implication that property owners are some how victimizing people who enter the market of their own free will to either purchase a property or purchase the rights afforded by a lease by renting a property. It is a market, just like buying tires or some of my mighty fine jewelry, no one is forced to buy the product. If however someone chooses to buy a product, they must pay what they negotiate between the buyer and seller. There is no rip off involved.

Macx · Nov 6, 2009

So why do you keep changing your screen name Taku?

The problem is when you make everything private property or limited use property it pushs people into a corner that can not afford it or that dont want to afford it so there very much is a rip off involved

No. Your first premise is dead wrong. In order for your statement to make sense, you must first support the premise that said people have a right to said property. In order for people who have not worked to appropriate property to enjoy that property coercion or charity have to have taken place. Charity can not be compulsory by definition. Coercion is corruption.

I think its a shame that most of the accessable beautiful places in this nation are gobbled up by rich people instead of being made into public use areas (lake front areas, hill sides with views, etc), it shows how capitilism has become corrupt. Some lakes have hundreds of acres of rich people private property and one little public boat launch if that . ..

Really? Besides the brief time with the Air Force you haven't traveled much I take it. But Alaska is FULL of beauty. There is a wealth of beauty throughout the country that can be accessed neither requiring trespass nor purchase. Further, are you honestly positing that people who can afford nice real estate should not be able to purchase it because you find it more morally palatable that people who haven't earned it should enjoy it? Just what should a rich person be able to do with their money?

Put another way: Send me $144USD. I find it morally objectionable that you have $144 dollars . . . doesn't matter what I have or haven't done, doesn't matter what you did to earn the $144. That is $144 that I should enjoy. Mail it by this time next week. This is not a request, it is an order.

You aren't going to send the $144 are ya? Why*? Isn't that* the same reason it isn't wrong for people who can afford to build around a lake to do so (rhetorical). You can send me the $144 or you can say "yes Macx, you are right" those are the only two options.

Macx · Nov 6, 2009

Right, so you'll be sending me that $144.

What right does anyone have to that property. . . . . does not sound very christian to me.

Really?

Galatians 6

7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.

Proverbs 12

27The slothful roasteth not his hunting, And the wealth of a diligent man is precious. 28In the path of righteousness [is] life, And in the way of [that] path [is] no death!

Macx · Nov 6, 2009

Er, what are you talking about?

How do you feel you may have offended me?

All the name changes don't offend me, it just makes your motives suspect. Why not just pick a screen name and stick to it? I'm no forum admin, so I don't really care if you are trying to get around bans or suspensions . . . it just looks like a lack of integrity on your end. We've talked about that in another thread though, so that doesn't really need rehashed.

Urban Monk · Nov 7, 2009

bacon2, keep on posting the realness. Your words are true and powerful, meaning that your words are also of God. U have realized that economics is one of the most useful weapons for the forces of evil

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