illegal immigrants with criminal records are being released into the US.

[disciple Clint]

“We urge you to immediately cease any activities of transporting illegal immigrants by plane, or any other method, from the Southern Border to New York State,” reads the letter, penned by House Republican Conference chairwoman Rep. Elise Stefanik.

” … We demand you provide Congress and all New Yorkers with the current location and status of each illegal immigrant you have transferred to our state. The New Yorkers we represent are entitled to know how your failure to address the crisis at our Southern Border continues to impact their communities and day-to-day lives.”
https://nypost.com/2022/01/30/ny-house-gop-wants-biden-to-stop-secret-flights-of-migrants/

 

[Bradskii]

“We urge you to immediately cease any activities of transporting illegal immigrants by plane, or any other method, from the Southern Border to New York State,” reads the letter, penned by House Republican Conference chairwoman Rep. Elise Stefanik.

” … We demand you provide Congress and all New Yorkers with the current location and status of each illegal immigrant you have transferred to our state. The New Yorkers we represent are entitled to know how your failure to address the crisis at our Southern Border continues to impact their communities and day-to-day lives.”
NY House GOP wants Biden to stop 'secret' flights of migrants

I read the whole report so you don't have to. It says this at the end:

'A White House official responded to the GOP letter saying there are “no such things as secret flights.”

“The video is from six months ago in August …. The footage is of unaccompanied minors being transported either to a vetted relative or to a sponsor. And yes, they passed through Westchester County, NY en route to their final destination.'

So unless you have some evidence to the contrary, this is a beat up.

“It is our legal responsibility to safely care for unaccompanied children until they can be swiftly unified with a parent or a vetted sponsor. As part of the unification process, the Office of Refugee Resettlement facilitates travel for the children in its custody to their family or sponsors across the country.”

 

[Tom 1]

this is a beat up

Is that an Australian term for a fix-up / something intended to mislead?

 

[Bradskii]

Is that an Australian term for a fix-up / something intended to mislead?

Ah, sorry. I reverted to the local vernacular.

Beat up: An artificially or disingenuously manufactured outcry, usually in the media.

 

[Tom 1]

Ah, sorry. I reverted to the local vernacular.

Beat up: An artificially or disingenuously manufactured outcry, usually in the media.

Thanks

 

[Blade]

Yes amen.. so true.. PRAYING!

 

[disciple Clint]

I read the whole report so you don't have to. It says this at the end:

'A White House official responded to the GOP letter saying there are “no such things as secret flights.”

“The video is from six months ago in August …. The footage is of unaccompanied minors being transported either to a vetted relative or to a sponsor. And yes, they passed through Westchester County, NY en route to their final destination.'

So unless you have some evidence to the contrary, this is a beat up.

“It is our legal responsibility to safely care for unaccompanied children until they can be swiftly unified with a parent or a vetted sponsor. As part of the unification process, the Office of Refugee Resettlement facilitates travel for the children in its custody to their family or sponsors across the country.”

That would be the same White House who claims there is not a crisis at the border. Sorry to say that statements from the White House are far less than reliable.

 

[Bradskii]

That would be the same White House who claims there is not a crisis at the border. Sorry to say that statements from the White House are far less than reliable.

That there is or is not a crisis at the border is a matter of opinion (and has no direct bearing on this matter). That 'unaccompanied minors should be transported to relatives' is also an opinion.

That 'the footage is of unaccompanied minors being transported either to a vetted relative or to a sponsor. And yes, they passed through Westchester County, NY en route to their final destination' is not opinion. It is stated as a fact. As such, the article is a beat up. It's misreporting something as a means to a political end.

Now if you have evidence that the White House lied or is even mistaken then present it (and please, not 'some guy said'). Otherwise there is nothing to see in this 6 month old article which has previously been commented on in at least one thread where the article was similarly debunked.

I'm sure we have better things to do with our time.

 

[disciple Clint]

That there is or is not a crisis at the border is a matter of opinion (and has no direct bearing on this matter). That 'unaccompanied minors should be transported to relatives' is also an opinion.

That 'the footage is of unaccompanied minors being transported either to a vetted relative or to a sponsor. And yes, they passed through Westchester County, NY en route to their final destination' is not opinion. It is stated as a fact. As such, the article is a beat up. It's misreporting something as a means to a political end.

Now if you have evidence that the White House lied or is even mistaken then present it (and please, not 'some guy said'). Otherwise there is nothing to see in this 6 month old article which has previously been commented on in at least one thread where the article was similarly debunked.

I'm sure we have better things to do with our time.

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[Bradskii]

Viral video shows illegal immigrants released at the border
Illegal immigration ticks up; DHS border numbers show worst November on record
Illegal Border Crossings, Driven by Pandemic and Natural Disasters, Soar to Record High
Illegal Immigrant Apprehensions Reach 20-Year High in Biden’s First Year | National Review

I think you posted this in the wrong thread, Clint. We were looking for evidence that backed up the newspaper claim. Don't you have any?

 

[disciple Clint]

I think you posted this in the wrong thread, Clint. We were looking for evidence that backed up the newspaper claim. Don't you have any?

The evidence clearly shows that the White House lied when they claimed there was no crisis at the border. How is it that you do not know things that have been in the news over and over?

 

[Bradskii]

The evidence clearly shows that the White House lied when they claimed there was no crisis at the border. How is it that you do not know things that have been in the news over and over?

We're not talking about a crisis at the border. Last I chatted I was asking you for evidence that the newspaper article wasn't a beat up. You've had a few chances at producing some and have come up empty handed. Which I knew you would because I've discussed this months ago and I know there isn't any.

But surely you have to admit you have nothing at some point...'cos I'll ask every time you come up with a deflection. As I am now.

 

[disciple Clint]

We're not talking about a crisis at the border. Last I chatted I was asking you for evidence that the newspaper article wasn't a beat up. You've had a few chances at producing some and have come up empty handed. Which I knew you would because I've discussed this months ago and I know there isn't any.

But surely you have to admit you have nothing at some point...'cos I'll ask every time you come up with a deflection. As I am now.

the article speaks for itself, it is from a respected source, believe it or dont. Game over

 

[Bradskii]

the article speaks for itself, it is from a respected source, believe it or dont. Game over

It is a source without evidence. The same evidence that you lack. Anyone and any media outlet and any politician or anyone on this forum can make any claim they like. Without evidence it is simply a claim. With evidence it becomes a fact. When the claim is made with political intent, especially by a media outlet it is a beat up.

This claim has been repeated before and rejected before for the lack of anything approaching a scintilla of a relevant fact that one could class as evidence. It is rejected now for exactly the same reason.

At least you learned some Australian vernacular. As you indicate, there is nothing more to be said.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

the article speaks for itself, it is from a respected source, believe it or dont. Game over

Thanks for making an example of yourself.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Even if the article is true (and it's probably half-true, if that), what of it? The previous administration threatened to release criminal illegals into the US as an act of spite, and his followers cheered.

What changed?

 

[childeye 2]

That would be the same White House who claims there is not a crisis at the border. Sorry to say that statements from the White House are far less than reliable.

If you tell me what The Word of God would have us do about the desperate people
at the border, I'm all ears. But if you're believing and spreading gossip that spreads hate, then you're preaching contrary to what Christianity teaches.

 

[disciple Clint]

It is a source without evidence. The same evidence that you lack. Anyone and any media outlet and any politician or anyone on this forum can make any claim they like. Without evidence it is simply a claim. With evidence it becomes a fact. When the claim is made with political intent, especially by a media outlet it is a beat up.

This claim has been repeated before and rejected before for the lack of anything approaching a scintilla of a relevant fact that one could class as evidence. It is rejected now for exactly the same reason.

At least you learned some Australian vernacular. As you indicate, there is nothing more to be said.

So maybe they faked the video evidence also but I doubt that, the evidence is there.

 

[disciple Clint]

Thanks for making an example of yourself.

explain what you mean by that comment.

 

[disciple Clint]

If you tell me what The Word of God would have us do about the desperate people
at the border, I'm all ears. But if you're believing and spreading gossip that spreads hate, then you're preaching contrary to what Christianity teaches.

What is against the Christian values is what is happening to people as a result of the irresponsible policies of this administration.
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