Ignorance

[Braunwyn]

Well if I can't get it written correctly or understand /follow Jesus very well. Maybe you can read it for yourself and explain how to follow or understand what I have read. Romans1:18-32

I read that passage here

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:18-32

and I think it's filth. I couldn't fathom subscribing to such a thing. And I feel for those of you who do.

eta: thanks for posting it tho. It's a good reminder why I am not or ever could be a christian.

 

[allhart]

I read that passage here

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 1:18-32

and I think it's filth. I couldn't fathom subscribing to such a thing. And I feel for those of you who do.

eta: thanks for posting it tho. It's a good reminder why I am not or ever could be a christian.

God forgive her for she know not what she says. May God bless you.

 

[Braunwyn]

God forgive her for she know not what she says. May God bless you.

No, I know what I'm saying. I'm capable of reading and discerning garbage when I see it. The passage is so wrong and if anything is a sin, promoting that type of stuff is.

 

[Braunwyn]

God forgive her for she know not what she says. May God bless you.

From the passage

"28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them"

Do you think this accurately describes the Dalai lama (does not believe in your god) for example?

 

[allhart]

From the passage

Do you think this accurately describes the Dalai lama (does not believe in your god) for example?

Grace , mercy and justice. God provides each attribute and you wont have justice.Not for any cause ? What do you stand for? Who and what are you about? What is your purpose in life? Living for a greater cause than your own "for God" means a purpose driven life.Anything else amount to nothing and only equals death in the end.

 

[Braunwyn]

Can you please answer the question. Does that passage accurately describe the Dalai Lama? Or do you not know who he is?

Grace , mercy and justice. God provides each attribute and you wont have justice.Not for any cause ? What do you stand for? Who and what are you about? What is your purpose in life? Living for a greater cause than your own "for God" means a purpose driven life.Anything else amount to nothing and only equals death in the end.

I can't tell if these are rhetorical questions or not. A person does not need a god to have purpose or to live a life serving others or engage in selfless action. I understand that god is a requirement for some to live this way but it's not the case for all people. Why do you have such a hard time grasping this?

 

[allhart]

Can you please answer the question. Does that passage accurately describe the Dalai Lama? Or do you not know who he is?


I can't tell if these are rhetorical questions or not. A person does not need a god to have purpose or to live a life serving others or engage in selfless action. I understand that god is a requirement for some to live this way but it's not the case for all people. Why do you have such a hard time grasping this?

Well, as I have said to you before, so I will say it you this way. For you aren't ignorant of God. You have choose to be against God. In other words you state that you're an enemy of God. Thats what I grasp. Don't you get it. I don't know you who you refer to as Dalai lama

 

[Braunwyn]

Well, as I have said to you before, so I will say it you this way. For you aren't ignorant of God. You have choose to be against God. In other words you state that you're an enemy of God. Thats what I grasp. Don't you get it.

Yea, i see that's what you grasp. I'm saying that you are in error but believe what you will.

I don't know you who you refer to as Dalai lama

Heh, I've never met a person who has never heard of him. He's very active in the US. You can read about him here. http://www.dalailama.com/

 

[allhart]

Yea, i see that's what you grasp. I'm saying that you are in error but believe what you will.


Heh, I've never met a person who has never heard of him. He's very active in the US. You can read about him here. http://www.dalailama.com/

Maybe some other time. Thanks.

 

[allhart]

Yea, i see that's what you grasp. I'm saying that you are in error but believe what you will.


Heh, I've never met a person who has never heard of him. He's very active in the US. You can read about him here. http://www.dalailama.com/

You have made a choice.

 

[Braunwyn]

You have made a choice.

And you have made the choice not to believe in the flying spaghetti monster as the supreme diety. Does it really matter? Nope.

 

[Stinker]

Ok, so apart from homophobia, there is racism, sexism, xenophobia, ageism, stereotyping and many more forms of ignorance. Quite often there cannot be one without the other.

I would like to discuss those types of ignorance, because I believe that we don't give enough attention to issues such as racism.

So, is it moral to use a religion as an excuse for ignorance?

Is it moral to willingly remain ignorant, to avoid learning so you could keep your stereotypes and prejudices?

Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary 11th ed. says that racism is: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

It (racism) has been wrongly coined as a dirty word because so many have used the reverse of the last sentence: that racial differences produce an inherent inferiority of a particular race.

Actually, if one were to just look at these areas of the U.S.A. (Science, Economics, Sports) we instantly see how we mostly do follow our racial differences in racial superiority. Thats mostly as there are always cross-differences. God made us all with different strengths so that we woud work in harmony with each other.

 

[Wednesday]

Just one more thing that ticks me off

People who start their sentences with *I'm not racist, but..* and then say something infinitely stupid and racist. I hate the blatant hypocrisy.

 

[Autumnleaf]

What groups of people act in what specific ways? Certainly the cliche about birds of a feather refers not to appearances and inherited traits but to behavior- so yes.. a group of addicts who are not in recovery can probably be viewed as acting differently than a group of people who have never been addicted or who a group of people who are addicts but are in recovery.

Become friends with someone from a minority neighborhood and ask them, or just wait 5 secconds or so for them to bring it up. I think it takes someone with very little experience with groups of people other than the group they were born into as well as a concerted effort by society to make people ignorant of cultural differences for questions like this to be brought up. Every day at work I work with black women in a bad part of town and if a white guy said what they say about black men the white guy would be fired, but day in and day out I get an ear full whether I like it or not. Denying different people tend to act in different ways is opening yourself up to being punished for being stupid sooner or later, like a cute woman walking alone in a bad part of town when its dark out.

 

[Meshavrischika]

That's because you are stupid enough to believe that there are reasons to group people.

All I am saying is, for example, if we are not to judge a man by the colour of his skin, then why do we have a notion of black people and white people?

Racism occurs when we start to believe in races. Stereotyping occurs when we start the division of people into types.

Although I do think there are very good biological reasons to divide people into sexes.

You forgot it is also associated with the need to be "better" than others. I firmly believe this is what stereotyping for most people boils down to.

Great post BTW.