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If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

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I think you need to read this -




There is no command by Jesus or anyone else in Acts 20 to meet every week-day-1 (notice Luke does not call it "Lord's Day" and does not call week-day-1 "Sabbath" - AND there is no command there at all to meet every week-day-1 for worship)

Details matter.



Is it your claim that "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" is the SAME thing as "Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day" -- or is it your claim that Catholics CHANGED that commandment to say something else?
There is no command in the New Testament for Christians to observe the Sabbath. There is the WORD that tells us the 10 commandments are history, they were temporary commands, and the ended at the Cross. Case closed my friend. You prophet was wrong again.
 
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There is no command in the New Testament for Christians to observe the Sabbath.

There are many commandments not fully repeated in the New Testament - only repeated in part - but not verbatim -- the Sabbath commandment IS repeated in part in the New Testament.

But the command against taking God's name in vain is not in the New Testament at all!!

It is still binding of course - as it is one of the TEN Commandments. The "made up rule" about things not constantly repeated - getting auto-deleted... is mere "fluff" it is not a Bible doctrine at all!

There is the WORD that tells us the 10 commandments are history, they were temporary commands

True - the "word of man" tells us that. But it cannot be found in the Bible.

Case closed my friend.
 
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"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before ME to worship" Is 66:23
"The SABBATH was MADE for mankind" Mark 2:27.
'There REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of GOD" Heb 4
"The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"for in 6 days the Lord MADE the heavens and the earth the seas and all that is in them" Ex 20:11
"worship HIM who MADE the heavens and the earth the seas and the springs of water" Rev 14:7
"HE who said 'do not commit adultery' ALSO SAID 'do not murder' " James 2

Matt 5
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Eph 6:2 makes it real easy --

Eph 6:2
2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:

In what UNIT of LAW - is the 5th commandment - "the FIRST commandment with a promise" - because it is that unit that Paul is upholding in Eph 6:2.

Real easy answer.
 
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"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before ME to worship" Is 66:23
"The SABBATH was MADE for mankind" Mark 2:27.
'There REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of GOD" Heb 4
"The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"for in 6 days the Lord MADE the heavens and the earth the seas and all that is in them" Ex 20:11
"worship HIM who MADE the heavens and the earth the seas and the springs of water" Rev 14:7
"HE who said 'do not commit adultery' ALSO SAID 'do not murder' " James 2

Matt 5
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Eph 6:2 makes it real easy --

Eph 6:2
2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:

In what UNIT of LAW - is the 5th commandment - "the FIRST commandment with a promise" - because it is that unit that Paul is upholding in Eph 6:2.

Real easy answer.
2Cor 3:

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:


8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?


9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.


10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

Done away, again done away The Sabbath was part of the ministration of death and you want to put us under that ministration of death?
 
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Hint: The Sabbath is not mentioned at all in 2Cor 3.

2 Cor 3 does not say "the Ten Commandments were done away" as we all know. Not even 2Cor 3:11 says that.

"11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious."
"11 For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory."

You have "imagined for us" that what it should have said is that the "Ten Commandments are done away".

It does not.

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In Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" -- what Law - what unit of Law is it to be found that 'honor your father and mother" is the FIRST commandment with a promise??

"First commandment where??"

...There is the WORD that tells us the 10 commandments are history, they were temporary commands, and the ended at the Cross. .

You have imagined for us "first commandment in that which was done away" -- which is pretty much -- an unworkable fiction given Paul's statement in Ephesians 6.
 
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Well if the "Sabbath is not mentioned at all in 2Cor3" then WHERE IS it mentioned?? Let's have some "Sola scriptura" on that point.

ok - fine.

"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before ME to worship" Is 66:23
"The SABBATH was MADE for mankind" Mark 2:27.
'There REMAINS therefore a SABBATH rest for the people of GOD" Heb 4
"The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"for in 6 days the Lord MADE the heavens and the earth the seas and all that is in them" Ex 20:11
"worship HIM who MADE the heavens and the earth the seas and the springs of water" Rev 14:7
"HE who said 'do not commit adultery' ALSO SAID 'do not murder' " James 2
 
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Even C.H. Spurgeon accepts the Bible details differentiating the moral law of God from the civil and ceremonial laws.


Baptist Confession of Faith Section 19

Section 19:

C.H. Spurgeon's edition of the "Baptist Confession of Faith"
-- CH Spurgeon

The Perpetuity of the Law of God


Very great mistakes have been made about the law. Not long ago there were those about us who affirmed that the law is utterly abrogated and abolished, and they openly taught that believers were not bound to make the moral law the rule of their lives. What would have been sin in other men they counted to be no sin in themselves. From such Antinomianism as that may God deliver us. We are not under the law as the method of salvation, but we delight to see the law in the hand of Christ, and desire to obey the Lord in all things. Others have been met with who have taught that Jesus mitigated and softened down the law, and they have in effect said that the perfect law of God was too hard for imperfect beings, and therefore God has given us a milder and easier rule. These tread dangerously upon the verge of terrible error, although we believe that they are little aware of it.

Section 19 of the "Baptist Confession of Faith" .

Section 19

. The Law of God

  • God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience which was written in his heart, and He gave him very specific instruction about not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. By this Adam and all his descendants were bound to personal, total, exact, and perpetual obedience, being promised life upon the fulfilling of the law, and threatened with death upon the breach of it. At the same time Adam was endued with power and ability to keep it.

  • The same law that was first written in the heart of man continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the Fall, and was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in the TEN COMMANDMENTS, and written in two tables, the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six, our duty to man.

  • Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

  • To the people of Israel He also gave sundry judicial laws which expired when they ceased to be a nation. These are not binding on anyone now by virtue of their being part of the laws of that nation, but their general equity continue to be applicable in modern times.


The moral law ever binds to obedience everyone, justified people as well as others, and not only out of regard for the matter contained in it, but also out of respect for the authority of God the Creator, Who gave the law. Nor does Christ in the Gospel dissolve this law in any way, but He considerably strengthens our obligation to obey it
 
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until they read

In Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" -- what Law - what unit of Law is it to be found that 'honor your father and mother" is the FIRST commandment with a promise??

And ask themselves "First commandment where??"

Paul does not merely say "FIRST written on stone but now we ignore that stone and look for something else" as you seem to much prefer to have written in Eph 6.

Ephesians 6:1-3
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise: 3 “that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.”
Why do you assume that Paul is speaking only of the Ten Commandments?

Rather his argument for the validity and continued authority of the 5th commandment is that it is the "FIRST commandment in the TEN Commandments with a promise".

A point that is -- pointless for Paul -- if he were actually arguing "And of course the TEN Commandments now mean nothing to us Christians today after the cross".

Again, Paul does not state that he is only speaking of the Ten Commandments which actually contain more than ten commands.

The stone tablets - had the TEN Commandments. "And nothing more".
The phrase I don't see in your post.

And your point is?

Deut 5
22 ""These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly at the mountain from the midst of the fire, of the cloud and of the thick gloom, with a great voice, and He added no more. He wrote them on two tablets of stoneand gave them to me.

Ex 34:28
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. [ Literally Ten Words]

Deuteronomy 4:13
"So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Deuteronomy 10:4
"He wrote on the tablets, like the former writing, the Ten Commandments which the LORD had spoken to you on the mountain from the midst of the fire on the day of the assembly; and the LORD gave them to me.

Paul did not state that he was speaking only of the Ten Commandments which were given to the Israelites. You assume that he meant the Ten Commandments, but he does not state this at all.
 
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I think you need to read this -

The early church fathers wrote that Jesus told them to celebrate the Lord's Day on the first day of the week. It seems that Pope John Paul did not read these teachings before he wrote this document. I don't know what year the vault in the Vatican was opened to release these documents for public viewing and study, however Pope John Paul does explain the reasoning behind Jesus' command very well. :)

There is no command by Jesus or anyone else in Acts 20 to meet every week-day-1 (notice Luke does not call it "Lord's Day" and does not call week-day-1 "Sabbath" - AND there is no command there at all to meet every week-day-1 for worship)

Details matter.​

John claims that he was in the spirit on the Lord's Day so he certainly was personally celebrating the Lord's Day just as Jesus commanded.

Revelation 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, nkjv
Is it your claim that "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" is the SAME thing as "Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day" -- or is it your claim that Catholics CHANGED that commandment to say something else?

It is my claim that Jesus told the apostles that He is the Lord of the Sabbath and that He commanded them to commemorate His Last Supper/Paschal Mystery on the first day of the week.
 
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Key question:

In legal terms - what does it mean to change one of the TEN commandments in the law - so that its obligation, its authority, its observance is now transferred to some other day - other than the one as given in that Command??

1. To say that the 7th day has lost all of its solemnity - deleted by man made tradition. ... is that a "Change" - in legal terms to that command?

If Jesus commanded the change and I do believe the early church fathers who said He did, it is not a man-made tradition, it is a God-made tradition.

Do you keep all the laws regarding the Sabbath and all the rest of the Laws given to and/or kept by Moses including circumcision or do you choose the ones you want to obey and disregard the others?

Galatians 5:3
And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. nkjv
As for me, I believe that all the Law of Moses was commanded until John the Baptist began preaching the kingdom of God. I believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses by His life and sacrificial death on the cross. By fulfilling/accomplishing the Law of Moses, Jesus ended/finished it.

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John
; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and every one enters it violently. rsv

Matthew 5:18
For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. rsv

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified. rsv

John 19:30
When Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished”; and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. rsv
Jesus' perfect sacrificial death ended the animal sacrificial system and all that was attached to it such as the Sabbath laws and the Levitical priesthood.

Hebrews 7:11
Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levit′ical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchiz′edek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? rsv

Exodus 23:10-11
For six years you shall sow your land and gather in its yield; 11 but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave the wild beasts may eat. You shall do likewise with your vineyard, and with your olive orchard. rsv
Do you give all your income away every seven years to the poor if you do not have any fields for them to forage? Did your ancestors observe the Sabbatical year every seven years and the jubilee year every fifty years and do you now observe them? Leviticus 25

2. To say that the 7th day has its solemnity TRANSFERRED to another - day such that the 7th day no longer has that solemnity - rather some other day has it. Is that a "CHANGE" to the commandment? Or does it remain as solemn, binding, obligatory as ever when it loses all of its solemnity by having it transferred to another day!

Jesus can change any of His laws that He wants to change. He is God. And, He did say that He is Lord of the Sabbath and He, a Jew, personally did not choose to obey the man-made traditions concerning it even before His death on the cross.

I am not at all convinced that we are as far apart on that particular point as you seem to claim.

Some of the Christian Jews commanded that the Christian Greeks become circumcised and obey the Law of Moses.

The apostles told the Christians Greeks that they [the apostles] did not make this commandment.

Acts 15:1-2, 4-11, 22-29
But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brethren, Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 And when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question.

4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. 5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up, and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses.
6 The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. 7 And after there had been much debate, Peter rose and said to them, “Brethren, you know that in the early days God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 And God who knows the heart bore witness to them, giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us; 9 and he made no distinction between us and them, but cleansed their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why do you make trial of God by putting a yoke upon the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11 But we believe that we shall be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”

19 Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, 20 but should write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols and from unchastity and from what is strangled and from blood. rsv

So why are you troubling the Gentile Christians such as myself by claiming that I must obey the Sabbath laws of the Law of Moses when the apostles do not command this of me?

Is it your claim that "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" is the SAME thing as "Remember to keep holy the Lord's Day" -- or is it your claim that Catholics CHANGED that commandment to say something else?

After His resurrection and before He ascended into heaven, Jesus commanded the Lord's Day observance and that is why John in Revelation calls the first day of the week, the Lord's Day.

Revelation 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet nkjv​

This is also why the brethren met on the first day of the week to break bread and listen to the preaching of the apostles.

Acts 20:7
Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight. nkjv
I will continue to worship God together with my brethren on the first day of the week, Sunday, just the same as John and Paul and the other apostles.
 
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The early church fathers wrote that Jesus told them to celebrate the Lord's Day on the first day of the week.
Hi Jan, Your statement is new to me. I have never read where Jesus ever told anyone when to worship. Please reveal where you found that statement. Christians, as far as I know, have never been told when to worship. We have been given the freedom to worship as the Holy Spirit prompts us. Because Jesus died for the Jews they are now free from the old laws and Gentiles who have never ever been subject to the laws of Israel, through Jesus, are now free in Him. We are one people serving a risen Savior free to worship Him every day and any day.

John claims that he was in the spirit on the Lord's Day so he certainly was personally celebrating the Lord's Day just as Jesus commanded.

Again, please reveal where Jesus commanded celebrating the Lord's day? I wish it were true. It would stop all those that thump old covenant Sabbath observance, but I have not seen it in scripture or in any of the early fathers writings.

Revelation 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, nkjv
It is my claim that Jesus told the apostles that He is the Lord of the Sabbath and that He commanded them to commemorate His Last Supper/Paschal Mystery on the first day of the week.

Yes, He did tell them to do this as often as you will, but as to a specific time, I believe you have been told or read something that cannot be substantiated by scripture.
 
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Ephesians 6:1-3
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise: 3 “that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.”
Why do you assume that Paul is speaking only of the Ten Commandments?

Are you being serious???

If so - I would have expected you to show 2 or 3 other units of LAW where the 5th Commandment is also "the first commandment with a promise" in those units of Law within the Bible.

You show no other such option in your post - you merely ask the question as if you had some other solution.
 
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In Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" -- what Law - what unit of Law is it to be found that 'honor your father and mother" is the FIRST commandment with a promise??

And ask themselves "First commandment where??"



Paul does not merely say "FIRST written on stone but now we ignore that stone and look for something else" as you seem to much prefer to have written in Eph 6.

Rather his argument for the validity and continued authority of the 5th commandment is that it is the FIRST commandment in the TEN Commandments with a promise.

A point that is -- pointless for Paul -- if he were actually arguing "And of course the TEN Commandments now mean nothing to us Christians today after the cross".

The stone tablets - had the TEN Commandments. "And nothing more".
The phrase I don't see in your post.

Deut 5
22 ""These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly at the mountain from the midst of the fire, of the cloud and of the thick gloom, with a great voice, and He added no more. He wrote them on two tablets of stoneand gave them to me.

Ex 34:28
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. [ Literally Ten Words]

Deuteronomy 4:13
"So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Deuteronomy 10:4
"He wrote on the tablets, like the former writing, the Ten Commandments which the LORD had spoken to you on the mountain from the midst of the fire on the day of the assembly; and the LORD gave them to me

Again, Paul does not state that he is only speaking of the Ten Commandments which actually contain more than ten commands.

And your point is?

Paul did not state that he was speaking only of the Ten Commandments which were given to the Israelites. You assume that he meant the Ten Commandments, but he does not state this at all.

You never provide any other unit of LAW in which his statement is true - are you expressing merely a 'wish' that there was some other such case in scripture and are simply lamenting the problem for your solution in not actually having it??

Deut 5
22 ""These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly at the mountain from the midst of the fire, of the cloud and of the thick gloom, with a great voice, and He added no more. He wrote them on two tablets of stoneand gave them to me.
 
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If Jesus commanded the change and I do believe the early church fathers who said He did, it is not a man-made tradition, it is a God-made tradition.

In your opening statement you admit you have no text - all you have is the "hope" that the man made traditions that came AFTER the scriptures - may be relied upon AS IF they were SCRIPTURE or at least as good as scripture.

For the rest of us "sola scriptura" will be the model we use.

You are welcome to "Sola man-made-tradition" if that is what you wish.

Jesus can change any of His laws that He wants to change. He is God. And, He did say that He is Lord of the Sabbath

So then you did - or did not read what Christ said in Matt 5 where he flatly denies that he came to delete/downsize/undermine scripture.

in Christ,

Bob
 
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Jan001 said:
The early church fathers wrote that Jesus told them to celebrate the Lord's Day on the first day of the week.

Hi Jan, Your statement is new to me. I have never read where Jesus ever told anyone when to worship. Please reveal where you found that statement.

I think it was more "wishful thinking" than an actual text in the actual Bible that was the basis in that case.

Certainly Jan has every reason to "hope" that the endless twists and turns of man-made-tradition coming along after scripture might by fact or be forged document - in some way shape or form - (donation of constantine fashion if all else fails) provide the missing evidence.

There are some forgeries for example attributed to Ignatius

http://www.bible.ca/history-ignatius-forgeries-250AD.htm

Surely some of them might be useful as a replacement for much-needed but-still-missing scripture.
 
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Hi Jan, Your statement is new to me. I have never read where Jesus ever told anyone when to worship. Please reveal where you found that statement. Christians, as far as I know, have never been told when to worship. We have been given the freedom to worship as the Holy Spirit prompts us. Because Jesus died for the Jews they are now free from the old laws and Gentiles who have never ever been subject to the laws of Israel, through Jesus, are now free in Him. We are one people serving a risen Savior free to worship Him every day and any day.


Quote from JUSTIN MARTYR -- THE FIRST APOLOGY OF JUSTIN:

"CHAPTER LXVII -- WEEKLY WORSHIP OF THE CHRISTIANS.

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president [presbyter/priest] verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, [See * below] who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration."
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html

*1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.

Jesus Christ our Saviour, He taught them these things.

*****************************

Ignatius:

THE EPISTLE TO THE MAGNESIANS.

IX. If therefore those who lived in ancient observances [Jews] attained unto newness of hope, no longer keeping the Sabbath,[6] but living a life ruled by the Lord's day,[7] whereon our life too had its rising through Him and His death—

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/srawley/magnesians.html


Again, please reveal where Jesus commanded celebrating the Lord's day? I wish it were true. It would stop all those that thump old covenant Sabbath observance, but I have not seen it in scripture or in any of the early fathers writings.


The Didache
"But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas
"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

Ignatius of Antioch
"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr
"[W]e too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart. . . . [H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts? . . . God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers . . ." (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]).

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

Tertullian
"[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God" (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]).

The Didascalia
"The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [i.e., Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven" (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

Origen
"Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection" (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

Victorinus
"The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation of the kingdom. . . . On this day also, on account of the passion of the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on the Lord’s day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. And let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe any Sabbath with the Jews . . . which Sabbath he [Christ] in his body abolished" (The Creation of the World [A.D. 300]).

Eusebius of Caesarea
"They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]).

"[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality" (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

Athanasius
"The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).

Cyril of Jerusalem
"Fall not away either into the sect of the Samaritans or into Judaism, for Jesus Christ has henceforth ransomed you. Stand aloof from all observance of Sabbaths and from calling any indifferent meats common or unclean" (Catechetical Lectures 4:37 [A.D. 350]).

Council of Laodicea
"Christians should not Judaize and should not be idle on the Sabbath, but should work on that day; they should, however, particularly reverence the Lord’s day and, if possible, not work on it, because they were Christians" (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]).

John Chrysostom
"[W]hen he [God] said, ‘You shall not kill’ . . . he did not add, ‘because murder is a wicked thing.’ The reason was that conscience had taught this beforehand, and he speaks thus, as to those who know and understand the point. Wherefore when he speaks to us of another commandment, not known to us by the dictate of conscience, he not only prohibits, but adds the reason. When, for instance, he gave commandment concerning the Sabbath— ‘On the seventh day you shall do no work’—he subjoined also the reason for this cessation. What was this? ‘Because on the seventh day God rested from all his works which he had begun to make’ [Ex. 20:10-11]. . . . For what purpose then, I ask, did he add a reason respecting the Sabbath, but did no such thing in regard to murder? Because this commandment was not one of the leading ones. It was not one of those which were accurately defined of our conscience, but a kind of partial and temporary one, and for this reason it was abolished afterward. But those which are necessary and uphold our life are the following: ‘You shall not kill. . . . You shall not commit adultery. . . . You shall not steal.’ On this account he adds no reason in this case, nor enters into any instruction on the matter, but is content with the bare prohibition" (Homilies on the Statutes 12:9 [A.D. 387]).

"You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul’s words, that the observance of the law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews?" (Homilies on Galatians 2:17 [A.D. 395]).

"The rite of circumcision was venerable in the Jews’ account, forasmuch as the law itself gave way thereto, and the Sabbath was less esteemed than circumcision. For that circumcision might be performed, the Sabbath was broken; but that the Sabbath might be kept, circumcision was never broken; and mark, I pray, the dispensation of God. This is found to be even more solemn than the Sabbath, as not being omitted at certain times. When then it is done away, much more is the Sabbath" (Homilies on Philippians 10 [A.D. 402]).

The Apostolic Constitutions
"And on the day of our Lord’s resurrection, which is the Lord’s day, meet more diligently, sending praise to God that made the universe by Jesus, and sent him to us, and condescended to let him suffer, and raised him from the dead. Otherwise what apology will he make to God who does not assemble on that day . . . in which is performed the reading of the prophets, the preaching of the gospel, the oblation of the sacrifice, the gift of the holy food" (Apostolic Constitutions 2:7:60 [A.D. 400]).

Augustine
"Well, now, I should like to be told what there is in these ten commandments, except the observance of the Sabbath, which ought not to be kept by a Christian. . . . Which of these commandments would anyone say that the Christian ought not to keep? It is possible to contend that it is not the law which was written on those two tables that the apostle [Paul] describes as ‘the letter that kills’ [2 Cor. 3:6], but the law of circumcision and the other sacred rites which are now abolished" (The Spirit and the Letter 24 [A.D. 412]).

Pope Gregory I
"It has come to my ears that certain men of perverse spirit have sown among you some things that are wrong and opposed to the holy faith, so as to forbid any work being done on the Sabbath day. What else can I call these [men] but preachers of Antichrist, who when he comes will cause the Sabbath day as well as the Lord’s day to be kept free from all work. For because he [the Antichrist] pretends to die and rise again, he wishes the Lord’s day to be held in reverence; and because he compels the people to Judaize that he may bring back the outward rite of the law, and subject the perfidy of the Jews to himself, he wishes the Sabbath to be observed. For this which is said by the prophet, ‘You shall bring in no burden through your gates on the Sabbath day’ [Jer. 17:24] could be held to as long as it was lawful for the law to be observed according to the letter. But after that the grace of almighty God, our Lord Jesus Christ, has appeared, the commandments of the law which were spoken figuratively cannot be kept according to the letter. For if anyone says that this about the Sabbath is to be kept, he must needs say that carnal sacrifices are to be offered. He must say too that the commandment about the circumcision of the body is still to be retained. But let him hear the apostle Paul saying in opposition to him: ‘If you be circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing’ [Gal. 5:2]" (Letters 13:1 [A.D. 597]).

Yes, He did tell them to do this as often as you will, but as to a specific time, I believe you have been told or read something that cannot be substantiated by scripture.


Passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

This truth about the early Christians gathering on Sunday, the Lord's Day, to worship is also substantiated by the written historical documents concerning early church practices.
 
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Are you being serious???

If so - I would have expected you to show 2 or 3 other units of LAW where the 5th Commandment is also "the first commandment with a promise" in those units of Law within the Bible.

You show no other such option in your post - you merely ask the question as if you had some other solution.

I do have another solution. We are commanded by Jesus to worship on Sunday, the Lord's Day, the first day of the week.


Quote from JUSTIN MARTYR -- THE FIRST APOLOGY OF JUSTIN:

"CHAPTER LXVII -- WEEKLY WORSHIP OF THE CHRISTIANS.

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president [presbyter/priest] verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration."
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html
 
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I think it was more "wishful thinking" than an actual text in the actual Bible that was the basis in that case.

Certainly Jan has every reason to "hope" that the endless twists and turns of man-made-tradition coming along after scripture might by fact or be forged document - in some way shape or form - (donation of constantine fashion if all else fails) provide the missing evidence.

There are some forgeries for example attributed to Ignatius

http://www.bible.ca/history-ignatius-forgeries-250AD.htm

Surely some of them might be useful as a replacement for much-needed but-still-missing scripture.

All the early Christians worshiped on Sunday, the first day of the week. This is recorded in the historical record of early Church practices.

You do not seem to understand that written Scripture is only one part of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

The oral preaching tradition is also the gospel of Jesus Christ and this oral tradition actually predates the written Scriptures.

Matthew 4:4
But he answered, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’” rsv

Acts 15:7
And after there had been much debate, Peter rose and said to them, “Brethren, you know that in the early days God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. rsv

2 Thessalonians 2:15

So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. rsv

 
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Quote from JUSTIN MARTYR -- THE FIRST APOLOGY OF JUSTIN:

"CHAPTER LXVII -- WEEKLY WORSHIP OF THE CHRISTIANS.

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president [presbyter/priest] verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, [See * below] who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration."
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html

*1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.

Jesus Christ our Saviour, He taught them these things.

*****************************

Ignatius:

THE EPISTLE TO THE MAGNESIANS.

IX. If therefore those who lived in ancient observances [Jews] attained unto newness of hope, no longer keeping the Sabbath,[6] but living a life ruled by the Lord's day,[7] whereon our life too had its rising through Him and His death—

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/srawley/magnesians.html





The Didache
"But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas
"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

Ignatius of Antioch
"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr
"[W]e too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart. . . . [H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts? . . . God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers . . ." (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]).

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

Tertullian
"[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God" (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]).

The Didascalia
"The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [i.e., Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven" (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

Origen
"Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection" (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

Victorinus
"The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation of the kingdom. . . . On this day also, on account of the passion of the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on the Lord’s day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. And let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe any Sabbath with the Jews . . . which Sabbath he [Christ] in his body abolished" (The Creation of the World [A.D. 300]).

Eusebius of Caesarea
"They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]).

"[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality" (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

Athanasius
"The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).

Cyril of Jerusalem
"Fall not away either into the sect of the Samaritans or into Judaism, for Jesus Christ has henceforth ransomed you. Stand aloof from all observance of Sabbaths and from calling any indifferent meats common or unclean" (Catechetical Lectures 4:37 [A.D. 350]).

Council of Laodicea
"Christians should not Judaize and should not be idle on the Sabbath, but should work on that day; they should, however, particularly reverence the Lord’s day and, if possible, not work on it, because they were Christians" (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]).

John Chrysostom
"[W]hen he [God] said, ‘You shall not kill’ . . . he did not add, ‘because murder is a wicked thing.’ The reason was that conscience had taught this beforehand, and he speaks thus, as to those who know and understand the point. Wherefore when he speaks to us of another commandment, not known to us by the dictate of conscience, he not only prohibits, but adds the reason. When, for instance, he gave commandment concerning the Sabbath— ‘On the seventh day you shall do no work’—he subjoined also the reason for this cessation. What was this? ‘Because on the seventh day God rested from all his works which he had begun to make’ [Ex. 20:10-11]. . . . For what purpose then, I ask, did he add a reason respecting the Sabbath, but did no such thing in regard to murder? Because this commandment was not one of the leading ones. It was not one of those which were accurately defined of our conscience, but a kind of partial and temporary one, and for this reason it was abolished afterward. But those which are necessary and uphold our life are the following: ‘You shall not kill. . . . You shall not commit adultery. . . . You shall not steal.’ On this account he adds no reason in this case, nor enters into any instruction on the matter, but is content with the bare prohibition" (Homilies on the Statutes 12:9 [A.D. 387]).

"You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul’s words, that the observance of the law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews?" (Homilies on Galatians 2:17 [A.D. 395]).

"The rite of circumcision was venerable in the Jews’ account, forasmuch as the law itself gave way thereto, and the Sabbath was less esteemed than circumcision. For that circumcision might be performed, the Sabbath was broken; but that the Sabbath might be kept, circumcision was never broken; and mark, I pray, the dispensation of God. This is found to be even more solemn than the Sabbath, as not being omitted at certain times. When then it is done away, much more is the Sabbath" (Homilies on Philippians 10 [A.D. 402]).

The Apostolic Constitutions
"And on the day of our Lord’s resurrection, which is the Lord’s day, meet more diligently, sending praise to God that made the universe by Jesus, and sent him to us, and condescended to let him suffer, and raised him from the dead. Otherwise what apology will he make to God who does not assemble on that day . . . in which is performed the reading of the prophets, the preaching of the gospel, the oblation of the sacrifice, the gift of the holy food" (Apostolic Constitutions 2:7:60 [A.D. 400]).

Augustine
"Well, now, I should like to be told what there is in these ten commandments, except the observance of the Sabbath, which ought not to be kept by a Christian. . . . Which of these commandments would anyone say that the Christian ought not to keep? It is possible to contend that it is not the law which was written on those two tables that the apostle [Paul] describes as ‘the letter that kills’ [2 Cor. 3:6], but the law of circumcision and the other sacred rites which are now abolished" (The Spirit and the Letter 24 [A.D. 412]).

Pope Gregory I
"It has come to my ears that certain men of perverse spirit have sown among you some things that are wrong and opposed to the holy faith, so as to forbid any work being done on the Sabbath day. What else can I call these [men] but preachers of Antichrist, who when he comes will cause the Sabbath day as well as the Lord’s day to be kept free from all work. For because he [the Antichrist] pretends to die and rise again, he wishes the Lord’s day to be held in reverence; and because he compels the people to Judaize that he may bring back the outward rite of the law, and subject the perfidy of the Jews to himself, he wishes the Sabbath to be observed. For this which is said by the prophet, ‘You shall bring in no burden through your gates on the Sabbath day’ [Jer. 17:24] could be held to as long as it was lawful for the law to be observed according to the letter. But after that the grace of almighty God, our Lord Jesus Christ, has appeared, the commandments of the law which were spoken figuratively cannot be kept according to the letter. For if anyone says that this about the Sabbath is to be kept, he must needs say that carnal sacrifices are to be offered. He must say too that the commandment about the circumcision of the body is still to be retained. But let him hear the apostle Paul saying in opposition to him: ‘If you be circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing’ [Gal. 5:2]" (Letters 13:1 [A.D. 597]).




Passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

This truth about the early Christians gathering on Sunday, the Lord's Day, to worship is also substantiated by the written historical documents concerning early church practices.
Thank you Jan for finding all the writings that should convince Sabbath thumpers to recognize that their prophet was wrong again when she proclaimed that Constantine changed the day of worship. Her statements on the subject were false like much of what she wrote.

I wish the teachings of Jesus on the Sabbath subject had been recorded in the Canon, but as you pointed out there is plenty of evidence that Christians knew they were not under the law therefore not under any command to "keep" ritual old covenant days.
 
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All the early Christians worshiped on Sunday, the first day of the week.

Just not according to the actual Bible.

For those of us who accept rather than "reject" sola scriptura testing of all tradition and doctrine -- that "detail matters".

Matt 4 is quoting Deuteronomy affirming the Word of God.

Matthew 4:4
But he answered, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’” rsv

Acts 15:7
And after there had been much debate, Peter rose and said to them, “Brethren, you know that in the early days God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. rsv

2 Thessalonians 2:15

So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. rsv


Yes - people were able to talk - but as we see in Acts 17:11 what they said was "TESTED" against SCRIPTURE "to SEE IF those things spoken to them by Paul were SO"

Even as Christ used that same sola scriptura method to condemn the traditions and doctrines of his day.

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
 
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