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if you CHOSE to sin, are you still saved?

Whisper865

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Amen!
 
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There have been times in my life when anyone looking at me (even my tee shirt 'message') would have thought I was unsaved, unrepenting, bound for Hell, out to get God, and maybe God was gonna send me packing off to Hell.

God knew what I was struggling with, oh, wow, was I!

I got so far out of His hearing range it seemed, or maybe I was (I leave that up to God's understanding, not my own) that I hurt bad, every minute, without let up except when I drank, there was a few moments, maybe the first 45, in which I felt at ease, didn't want to hit my son (the one that came of an arranged marriage--no, I was NOT pregnant--when I was 16; my Mom arranged it all...); if I had hit my son, I wouldn't have stopped, and I knew it, so I drank instead.

Unlike your friend, I didn't drink every day or every other... I didn't preach the Gospel, go to church, or 'secretly' drink, though I did drink outside the home, so my son would not grow up watching what I did growing up: a drunken Mom.

I got saved when I was 8; I backslid; I started making my way back in a way that 'felt' like a groping, meandering, and yet, heartfelt, honest groping:

And I made it back.

And I'm crying, such grateful tears.

Please pray to God 'for yourself'. That you have patience with this man and Faith deepened that God knows what is going on with this person in a way that no human being can with a finite mind...

We are called to love God with all our heart, all our mind, all our soul, all our strength, and then to Love our neighbor as ourselves:

We can only love a neighbor as much as we love ourselves which will both deepen as our love of God deepens.

Sometimes I have such a strong sense that God has it all covered. I mean, yes He's our Origin; Jesus is WORD made flesh who dwelt among us; the holy Spirit is our Comforter--I believe that, 'and'?

Why we fell 'exactly', and how each of us makes our way Home 'exactly'? Only God knows that; only God can know it, so we are called to to what we can as fall-able human beings:

Pray to God who is Love; act from the outpouring of Comfort we have received in the holy Spirit which pours forth from God the Father and God the Son,

and when we've had enough, whatever it is we have had enough of, like praying for someone who does not seem to want to change?

Turn that person with love over to Love, and ask that God renew your own ability to love...

I keep praying this, and God is blessing me for it, and by blessing, I mean the way He promised: Seek first the kingdom of God and all else will be added:

The fruits of the Spirit, not the pitiful 'things' of this world that do not satisfy sometimes for more than moments in time, but for the gifts that lead to Eternal Life with God Who is Love.

~ Carolyn
 
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Actually, I'm in a "God loves everyone and you're all God's children" church. They aren't unversialists or anything, but the theology just doesn't add up to me...and neither does assurance of salvation with sin still having control over one's life. I just don't understand that. Scripture is very clear...you can't be born of God and keep sinning day after day. I do though...and am numbly aware of it. I realize now that I am helpless in sin, dead in it...and the Bible tells me that I cannot save myself. Saving faith (the kind that changes a person) I don't believe is of one's self or we bring that to fruition. Scripture tells us that God measures faith out to people.
 
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The Bible says God died for all and calls all to him.But God is also a fair judge who judges out of love. It also says you can shipwreck your salvation. So if you have faith in Christ you will not be judged if.....you follow Christ and do not allow Satan to influence you to shipwreck your faith.

So a slip here and there will not put you in dange of damnation if your faith is in Christ , even the Apostles slipped up. But unrepentant sinning without repentance and trying to change will cause you to loose salvation.
 
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It would appear to me that there are only two ways you can sin. You either willingly choose to, or you do so unknowingly at the time. And I would ask anyone on this website that if they have never willingly chose to sin to please post it here, because I would really like to know how.
 
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Dear yankeeblue. A saved person is on the way to God`s Kingdom, while a person who keeps sinning, will never find the way to God`s Kingdom. Let us all remember: Galatians 6: 7-8: Paul tells us what will happen, and we know:
God will not be mocked. In Matthew 22: 35-40: Jesus Himself tells a Lawyer:
" The first and great Commandment is: Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. The second is like it: Love our neighbour as we love ourselves." Jesus states this great fact: " On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. God wants our Love, freely given and No conditions made. ( The Expositor`s New Testament refers
to this Commandment of Love for God and for our neighbour: " this is the foundation of all the Law, and applies to the present Day of Grace.")
We have many years to become the men and women which God wants us to become. Jesus will give us His Love and Joy, and we are told in Matthew 7:7-8
" ask and ye receive." We keep asking God for Love and Joy, then thank God,
and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour: i.e. all we know and all we meet, friends and not friends.
How can we love, if we keep sinning? We might stumble and forget at times,
but then we ask God to forgive us, and carry on Loving and Caring. God will notice our sincere efforts, and God will bless us. I say this with love,
yankeeblue. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ. P.S. A Christian`s
great weapon is Love, with love we will overcome all enmity and wrong behaviour.
 
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My question is for someone that claims to be saved, and loves the Lord Jesus during the day, but every single night, pours the alcohol down their throat. drinks till drunk. nightly. knows it is wrong, but says they cannot stop.

I know how you feel, I have a saved relative who had a gambling addiction. He has nowhere else to go so was lodging with us. Got so bad with the stealing to gamble we had to lock everything up, padlocks on all the doors except the bathroom and the spare bedroom.

Your relative went to AA and said everything was fine? Sounds like he's not yet able to admit he has a problem. That's the first step towards finding a solution.

Don't despair. God can work for the good in all situations, although it's difficult to see his purpose except with hindsight.
 
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Of course not. When we are saved, it's like joining the Borg collective: we all become automatons who can't think and act for ourselves.
Ringo

Couldn't before for that matter...we were slaves to sin instead of righteousness
 
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