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I thought this thread was about why there are so many different religions?
So they didn't know if they had eaten the Passover Seder or not the night before? Sorry, but that's not something I could go along with. In fact, the more hoops you need to jump though to explain it, the more implausible it becomes.
Have you considered that many people want to be spoon fed what they come to believe rather than doing their own homework (which takes some effort) to determine if what they are being told is true. Consequently, In my own limited experience of witnessing to people, I find that some people have no idea why they have the opinions and views they hold, other than someone told them the belief is correct.
The day is not as important as the event. Time muddies all waters. I'm not defending them I'm trying to understand why they wrote it that way. But the message and meaning is not adversely affected by their mistake(s).
Well, my answer would be simple: Because there isn't absolute truth.
The message may be the same, but the historical credibility of the message, is another issue.
Exactly. And that is one of the reasons for this thread. Of course, to any knowledgeable Christian there are lots of proof and evidences. There are about 2,000 fulfilled prophecies and many others 'about' to be fulfilled. I have never found that in any other book. Are there any elsewhere?
Having read and/or studied a number of different religions (own books of/by LDS, JWs, Islam, New Age [Eastern religions revamped], Bibles, and some info on a few others) I am perplexed as to how we got to where we are today.
For example, we all know that there is absolute truth (many of us don't want to acknowledge it always)- 1+1 always equals 2. Gravity will affect you in a seriously adverse way (even if you don't 'feel' or think it will) if you jump off a building.
But how did we get to hundreds, or thousands, of gods? Are there really that many gods or is there just one? And why are there so many different teachings and beliefs about God? Where did all of these gods come from? What is the absolute truth about God and how do we find it? Or can we find it? Is there any proof that there are numerous gods, one god, no god?
Is this even an issue worth discussing- bcuz of its possible ramifications for some, or all, of us? That may be the biggest question here.
I propose (my opinion) that we can know the answers to these questions. But do we dare take the leap and want to learn the absolute truth (if there is absolute truth about God)? What happens after I hit post will determine the outcome of my questions and the understanding we, each, have to face up to. However, in closing this first post, I want to say that, for me (one of my Mottos), there is a way, a clear way, to know -
1. 'If' there is a God
2. How many gods there are
3. Who is God
4. 'Why' he is God
5. Is there evidence for God
My Motto: I follow the facts- whatever they say, wherever they lead.
And,
The truth has nothing to lose or fear by being investigated (if it was true then it is true. If it isn't true then it never was true).
Let's see where this takes us. What say you?
Believing in something doesn't mean it exists if i believed their was a invisible three headed dragon in my garage, would that mean he existed? you also must have met a very rare satanist as they are mostly atheist themselves, and even the spiritual one's don't believe what they warship are demons more of old gods.
I rather believe that truth is relative...rather than absolute. The moment we proclaim things are "absolute" to me that sounds very dogmatic and rigged. I think you can find spiritual truth in all the great religions of the world.. but in order to see this it's necessary to appreciate the context and cultural setting of the revelation. I also believe truth is progressive from age to age.
Most of your well known Christian apologists stay away from using prophecies in their arguments. The reason? Because they can be refuted so easily.
Ever hear the story of the Blind Men and the Elephant?
If you are going to bring up Isaiah 53, don't. I can't tell you how many times I've argued this with Christians. Jews say it's Israel, Christians say it's Jesus/Messiah. It spins round and round and round.
I don't believe that the story of Jesus lines up with the Messianic prophecies. The thread is closed but you can see lots of arguments here: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/why-do-jews-reject-jesus.7814706/
I have heard this argument from both sides before. But I am still unsure how one side sees it the way they do. I am going there to read some, tho, to learn. I find that discussion interesting.
I have heard this argument from both sides before. But I am still unsure how one side sees it the way they do. I am going there to read some, tho, to learn. I find that discussion interesting.
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Hey, whatever it takes.
http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/mantrack.htm
http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/stegosaur-claim.htm
With 100% more science than the claims of creationists.
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