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<blockquote data-quote="Redac" data-source="post: 61656658" data-attributes="member: 195952"><p>I'm familiar with the concept of corporatism and Third Position economics. It does not strike me as what we're doing, though.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Right, but it's still capitalism. Regulated capitalism is still capitalism.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>If you're referring to the bank bailouts, that's Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? My immediate guess is that the fascist state either nationalizes banks entirely or places such overwhelming restrictions on them that they are in essence controlled by the state. Unless I'm living under a rock right now, that is not even close to what's happening in the United States.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Authoritarianism is not exclusive to fascism. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>What? Parts of the population, sure, but the country itself has fetishized "liberty" and other such things far more than its ever courted fascism.</p><p> </p><p>Besides, I always associate the term more with Mussolini's Italy than anything.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>On this we are in agreement.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not quite.</p><p> </p><p>Let's go ahead and assume he's a supporter of corporatist or third position economics for a moment. That doesn't make him a fascist. It might make him some sort of social democrat, but not a fascist. Fascism is about a lot more than just economic policy; he doesn't fit the bill in a myriad of other ways. The first things that pop into my head are the lack of palingenetic nationalism or the fact that he pushes for LGBT rights.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I've never heard a fascist support neoliberal globalization.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Redac, post: 61656658, member: 195952"] I'm familiar with the concept of corporatism and Third Position economics. It does not strike me as what we're doing, though. Right, but it's still capitalism. Regulated capitalism is still capitalism. If you're referring to the bank bailouts, that's Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? My immediate guess is that the fascist state either nationalizes banks entirely or places such overwhelming restrictions on them that they are in essence controlled by the state. Unless I'm living under a rock right now, that is not even close to what's happening in the United States. Authoritarianism is not exclusive to fascism. What? Parts of the population, sure, but the country itself has fetishized "liberty" and other such things far more than its ever courted fascism. Besides, I always associate the term more with Mussolini's Italy than anything. On this we are in agreement. Not quite. Let's go ahead and assume he's a supporter of corporatist or third position economics for a moment. That doesn't make him a fascist. It might make him some sort of social democrat, but not a fascist. Fascism is about a lot more than just economic policy; he doesn't fit the bill in a myriad of other ways. The first things that pop into my head are the lack of palingenetic nationalism or the fact that he pushes for LGBT rights. I've never heard a fascist support neoliberal globalization. [/QUOTE]
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