If the Discovery Institute Listened to Me

[J_B_]

You should not conflate creationism with Christianity.

This is a clarification worth making, though the rest of your post doesn't relate to what I said. I don't conflate the two. Nor do I use the label "creationist" for myself. I used to, but I don't anymore because of the potential misunderstandings - though it doesn't seem to help that I don't call myself a creationist.

Regardless, my thought experiment involves an appeal to Christian public influencers. Some would be closer to accepting the idea than others.

In other words, if you want your kids to stay Christian do not teach them false teachings.

I would think this is a universal dictum. Don't teach your kids false things.

Are you interested in building bridges or are you with @Occams Barber that my motives are just too suspect and it's not worth the risk? It is kind of an odd thing, isn't it? That I would approach a scientist and say, "I don't agree with you on all things about evolutionary science, but I'm going to fund your work and leave you the freedom to do it in the way you deem best. Just be aware of my position before you accept the funds."

You may wonder why would someone do that? It just boggles the mind ... or at least the minds in this forum.

 

[Astrid]

This is a clarification worth making, though the rest of your post doesn't relate to what I said. I don't conflate the two. Nor do I use the label "creationist" for myself. I used to, but I don't anymore because of the potential misunderstandings - though it doesn't seem to help that I don't call myself a creationist.

Regardless, my thought experiment involves an appeal to Christian public influencers. Some would be closer to accepting the idea than others.



I would think this is a universal dictum. Don't teach your kids false things.

Are you interested in building bridges or are you with @Occams Barber that my motives are just too suspect and it's not worth the risk? It is kind of an odd thing, isn't it? That I would approach a scientist and say, "I don't agree with you on all things about evolutionary science, but I'm going to fund your work and leave you the freedom to do it in the way you deem best. Just be aware of my position before you accept the funds."

As @Estrid asked, why would someone do that? It just boggles the mind ... or at least the minds in this forum.

Plz state clearly what you are claiming about me

 

[J_B_]

Plz state clearly what you are claiming about me

It was a reference to post #37. "But why would they do that?"

 

[Astrid]

It was a reference to post #37. "But why would they do that?"

Put it on me figure it out.
Maybe you should avoid saying things at all
if you cannot be forthright.

 

[J_B_]

Good grief. How ridiculous. Post #37 was answered to help figure it out. Post #40 has been edited to remove certain references. Neither offense will be repeated.

 

[VirOptimus]

This is a clarification worth making, though the rest of your post doesn't relate to what I said. I don't conflate the two. Nor do I use the label "creationist" for myself. I used to, but I don't anymore because of the potential misunderstandings - though it doesn't seem to help that I don't call myself a creationist.

Regardless, my thought experiment involves an appeal to Christian public influencers. Some would be closer to accepting the idea than others.



I would think this is a universal dictum. Don't teach your kids false things.

Are you interested in building bridges or are you with @Occams Barber that my motives are just too suspect and it's not worth the risk? It is kind of an odd thing, isn't it? That I would approach a scientist and say, "I don't agree with you on all things about evolutionary science, but I'm going to fund your work and leave you the freedom to do it in the way you deem best. Just be aware of my position before you accept the funds."

You may wonder why would someone do that? It just boggles the mind ... or at least the minds in this forum.

Science and religion should not mix, that leads to bad science and even worse theology.

 

[J_B_]

Science and religion should not mix, that leads to bad science and even worse theology.

I disagree.

 

[Astrid]

Good grief. How ridiculous. Post #37 was answered to help figure it out. Post #40 has been edited to remove certain references. Neither offense will be repeated.

"Good grief" is putting it on me again.

You cant unsay it.

I stand behind things i say.

 

[Bradskii]

It is kind of an odd thing, isn't it? That I would approach a scientist and say, "I don't agree with you on all things about evolutionary science, but I'm going to fund your work and leave you the freedom to do it in the way you deem best. Just be aware of my position before you accept the funds."

Why on earth would you think they'd reach a different conclusion? It's like a flat-earther funding a cosmologist. What difference would your personal position make?

 

[Astrid]

Science and religion should not mix, that leads to bad science and even worse theology.

Other way around.

 

[VirOptimus]

I disagree.

I know, but thats why this thread is worthless.

 

[VirOptimus]

Other way around.

Even as an atheist I disagree, but its close.

 

[Astrid]

Even as an atheist I disagree, but its close.

Both worse than the other?

 

[Astrid]

I know, but thats why this thread is worthless.

It is that for sure.
And getting worse.

 

[J_B_]

I know, but thats why this thread is worthless.

Then ignore it. Don't let me waste your time.

 

[VirOptimus]

Then ignore it. Don't let me waste your time.

No, I think its very funny. Worthless but entertaining.

 

[J_B_]

Why on earth would you think they'd reach a different conclusion? It's like a flat-earther funding a cosmologist. What difference would your personal position make?

I'm not saying they would reach a different conclusion. In fact, I'm sure they wouldn't. Were you to fund some research, would you stipulate the results before the research is done?

 

[Bradskii]

I'm not saying they would reach a different conclusion. In fact, I'm sure they wouldn't. Were you to fund some research, would you stipulate the results before the research is done?

Then I'm missing the reason for doing it. The science is in. What would you expect to get from it?

 

[J_B_]

Then I'm missing the reason for doing it. The science is in. What would you expect to get from it?

The science is in on what? There's nothing left to learn in biology?

 

[Bradskii]

The science is in on what? There's nothing left to learn in biology?

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