If Jesus was God, why does he not refer to himself as such?

[GREENLIGHT]

For instance:

Mark 10:17-18 NRSV) As he was setting out on a journey, a man ran up
and knelt before him, and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to
inherit eternal life?"

Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God
alone.

 

[Radagast]

He did! See John 10:30 (“I and the Father are one”), John 8:58, John 14:11, etc.

-- Radagast

 

[StAnselm]

Yes, John 8:58 is an important verse. Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I am." In other words, not only does Jesus say that he's eternal, but he also takes upon himself the name of God.

 

[Simonline]

For instance:

Mark 10:17-18 NRSV) As he was setting out on a journey, a man ran up
and knelt before him, and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to
inherit eternal life?"

Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God
alone.

Let me translate for you...Jesus said to him "Are you saying that I am God?! Are you acknowledging my Divinity as the Messiah?!"

The Messiah does declare his Divinity (Jn.10:30) which is why the Jews picked up stones to stone him to death (Jn.10:31-33) since they understood exactly what he was saying.

Simonline.

 

[AvgJoe]

Mark 10:17-18 NRSV) As he was setting out on a journey, a man ran up
and knelt before him, and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to
inherit eternal life?"

Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God
alone.

I don't believe Jesus was denying his divinity with this statement. For more explanation of this passage, check out the following commentaries:

http://www.searchgodsword.org/com/bcc/view.cgi?book=mr&chapter=010
http://www.tektonics.org/lp/mark1018.html
http://www.christiancourier.com/questions/didJesusDenyHisDeity.htm


Jesus refers to Himself as God, many times, without every saying a word.

Matthew 9:1-7(NLT):
1) Jesus climbed into a boat and went back across the lake to his own town. 2) Some people brought to him a paralyzed man on a mat. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralyzed man, "Take heart, son! Your sins are forgiven."

3) "Blasphemy! This man talks like he is God!" some of the teachers of religious law said among themselves.

4) Jesus knew what they were thinking, so he asked them, "Why are you thinking such evil thoughts? 5) Is it easier to say, `Your sins are forgiven' or `Get up and walk'? 6) I will prove that I, the Son of Man, have the authority on earth to forgive sins." Then Jesus turned to the paralyzed man and said, "Stand up, take your mat, and go on home, because you are healed!"

7) And the man jumped up and went home!

Jesus forgave sins. I know, and the teachers of religious law knew, that only God can forgive sins. These teachers understood that Jesus was proclaiming to be God, that is why they said "blasphemy". What did Jesus do? Did He change His story or try to say that He meant something else? No. He said I will prove to you that I have the authority on earth to forgive sins, and He did, by forgiving the sins of the paralyzed man and healing him. This story is also recounted in Mark2:1-12, Luke 5:17-26 & John 5:8-9.

John 20:26-29(NLT):
26) Eight days later the disciples were together again, and this time Thomas was with them. The doors were locked; but suddenly, as before, Jesus was standing among them. He said, "Peace be with you." 27) Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here and see my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don't be faithless any longer. Believe!"

28) "My Lord and my God!" Thomas exclaimed.

29) Then Jesus told him, "You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who haven't seen me and believe anyway."

Thomas called Jesus his Lord and his God. What did Jesus do? Did He rebuke Thomas for calling Him God? Or act in anyway indifferent to Thomas' exclaimation? No, He didn't do those things, He said to Thomas "you finally believe me."

There are many other passages where Jesus speaks of His divinity without saying a word.

 

[IKTCA]

Brother G:
Jesus calling himself God? I cannot imagine that. Though he was God, he humbled himself and took the form of man, even to the death on the cross. It is unthinkable that the humble Son of God called himself God.

But we know he is God. As our brothers here explained, he cannot be anything but God. Our spirits testify. His words also testify that he is God.

Rupert

 

[GREENLIGHT]

how can a mortal woman give birth to God?

Jesus slept while God never sleeps: Psalms 121:4: "Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall
neither slumber nor sleep." God should be powerful—but how could people spit on him
and crucify him as the Bible alleges? How could Jesus be God if he worshipped God as
any other mortal: Luke 5:16: "And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed."
Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days(Luke 4:1-13), but in James 1:13 it is said: "...
for God cannot be tempted with evil ..." How can Jesus be God, then? We can rationalize
further and further.



I Corinthians 8:4: "... we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none
other God but one"; (I Timothy 2:5): "For there is one God, and one mediator between
God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Look at the expression "the man Christ Jesus." Now
you can either say that John 1:1 is right and all these other verses are wrong, or vice versa.

 

[StAnselm]

how can a mortal woman give birth to God?

Through a miracle, of course.

(I Timothy 2:5): "For there is one God, and one mediator between
God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Look at the expression "the man Christ Jesus." Now you can either say that John 1:1 is right and all these other verses are wrong, or vice versa.

No, they're both right. The ideal mediator, of course, belongs to both parties. So Christ is fully God and fully man.

Greenlight, if you don't believe Jesus is God, you really shouldn't be posting in this forum. I'd love to help you work through this, but not here.

 

[GREENLIGHT]

Through a miracle, of course.



No, they're both right. The ideal mediator, of course, belongs to both parties. So Christ is fully God and fully man.

Greenlight, if you don't believe Jesus is God, you really shouldn't be posting in this forum. I'd love to help you work through this, but not here.

i am sory,i am realy want to know the truth to improve my beliefs,

it is very clear here JESUS IS MAN acording to bible.

he did not say that HE IS GOD.

Did understand me.....

do you think as we born christians we have to accept the christinity blindly.....


??????????????????????

 

[CHARLES H]

in all these examples JESUS did say he was GOD. it seems unclear to us because we are not speaking or reading the original language.

 

[GREENLIGHT]

in all these examples JESUS did say he was GOD. it seems unclear to us because we are not speaking or reading the original language.

yea,i agree... jesus did say HE IS GOD or call me GOd


i think it is very clear....

 

[GREENLIGHT]

yea,i agree... jesus did say HE IS GOD or call me GOd


i think it is very clear....

I am sory,i mean HE DID NOT SAY HE IS GOD.OR CALL ME GOD.

 

[CHARLES H]

no actually he said it many times. just not in clear english but it was clear aramaic

 

[GREENLIGHT]

no actually he said it many times. just not in clear english but it was clear aramaic

The question is???????????


Why he did not say cleary and loudly.

 

[CHARLES H]

he did. why is that so confusing?

 

[GREENLIGHT]

he did. why is that so confusing?

tell me where please.

 

[CHARLES H]

read all the posts on this thread. once again JESUS was not talking in english but he said it directly to his audience

 

[GREENLIGHT]

read all the posts on this thread. once again JESUS was not talking in english but he said it directly to his audience

I am sory,i cant understand you,could you pls make it simple.
what do you mean by this:

"again JESUS was not talking in english but he said it directly to his audience"

my regards,

 

[Radagast]

tell me where please.

Scripture passages have been quoted. See previous posts.

-- Radagast

 

[AvgJoe]

how can a mortal woman give birth to God?

By a miracle, through the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 1:18-20(NLT):
18) Now this is how Jesus the Messiah was born. His mother, Mary, was engaged to be married to Joseph. But while she was still a virgin, she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit. 19) Joseph, her fiance, being a just man, decided to break the engagement quietly, so as not to disgrace her publicly.

20) As he considered this, he fell asleep, and an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream. "Joseph, son of David," the angel said, "do not be afraid to go ahead with your marriage to Mary. For the child within her has been conceived by the Holy Spirit.

Luke 1:26-35(NLT):
26) In the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a village in Galilee, 27) to a virgin named Mary. She was engaged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of King David. 28) Gabriel appeared to her and said, "Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you!"

29) Confused and disturbed, Mary tried to think what the angel could mean. 30) "Don't be frightened, Mary," the angel told her, "for God has decided to bless you! 31) You will become pregnant and have a son, and you are to name him Jesus. 32) He will be very great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David. 33) And he will reign over Israel forever; his Kingdom will never end!"

34) Mary asked the angel, "But how can I have a baby? I am a virgin."

35) The angel replied, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby born to you will be holy, and he will be called the Son of God.

Mary gave birth to the mortal man Jesus but she did not give birth to God, in the sense that Jesus did not exist before Mary gave birth to Him. Jesus has always existed.

Colossians 1:15-17(NLT):
15) Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before God made anything at all and is supreme over all creation. 16) Christ is the one through whom God created everything in heaven and earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can't see--kings, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities. Everything has been created through him and for him. 17) He existed before everything else began, and he holds all creation together.

Jesus has two natures: God and man. Colossians 2:9(NLT) says, "For in Christ the fullness of God lives in a human body," Jesus received His human nature from Mary and He received His divine nature through God the Holy Spirit, from which He was conceived. Therefore, Jesus is both God and man.

Jesus slept while God never sleeps: Psalms 121:4: "Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall
neither slumber nor sleep."

Jesus is fully human. He had to sleep just like we do.

God should be powerful—but how could people spit on him
and crucify him as the Bible alleges?

Because that is how much He loves each and everyone of us. Even while we where still sinners, long before you and I were even born, God loved us so much that He died a criminals death, by being crucified on a cross.

Jesus suffered for me and you, as an example of how we are supposed to live. He never sinned, deceived anyone, retaliated when He was insulted, nor threatened to get even. He personally carried away our sins in His own body on the cross so we can be dead to sin and live for what is right. (1 Peter 2:18-25)

He died for us sinners that He might bring us safely home to God. (1 Peter 3:18)

In order to make it safely home to God, you must trust in Jesus. Romans 10:9-11(NLT) gives us the way,

9) For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10) For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. 11) As the Scriptures tell us, "Anyone who believes in him will not be disappointed."

How could Jesus be God if he worshipped God as
any other mortal: Luke 5:16: "And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed."

The answer to this question can be found with an understanding of the Trinity and the dual nature of Jesus. As a man, Jesus needed to pray. When He was praying he was not praying to Himself, but to God the Father.

Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days(Luke 4:1-13), but in James 1:13 it is said: "...
for God cannot be tempted with evil ..." How can Jesus be God, then?

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/obj_Jesus_sin.htm