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They appear implied to me, albeit not personally. As if Atheists perhaps think that we know all we need to know about the universe.These. No such claims were made, read my post carefully please, thank you.
They appear implied to me, albeit not personally. As if Atheists perhaps think that we know all we need to know about the universe.
Are you saying you don't have a personal connection with God?
It is indirectly relevant to my point that all things considered you claim more knowledge about the universe than I do in the sense that you claim to know the creator although now you claim that you don't. I would have thought every Christian ever would claim to have a relationship with God.In no way did I imply such things.
How is that relevant?
Never seen by one? You are greatly misinformed. There are many who have died and gone to hell and returned. One was a man in Africa who was taken in his casket to the basement of a Reinhard Bonnke meeting and was resurrected. He testifies that he was in hell before coming back (google it). There are others.
You really should think out your messages. Once again, this has been addressed; that was not stated - or implied. it is not relevant to the discussion, nor have I made a claim to be in or out of a relationship. The issue here is you projecting a view you think is true.It is indirectly relevant to my point that all things considered you claim more knowledge about the universe than I do in the sense that you claim to know the creator although now you claim that you don't. I would have thought every Christian ever would claim to have a relationship with God.
I think I can be 'forgiven' for assuming every Christian, especially practicing Christians affirm that they are in a relationship with God.You really should think out your messages. Once again, this has been addressed; that was not stated - or implied. it is not relevant to the discussion, nor have I made a claim to be in or out of a relationship. The issue here is you projecting a view you think is true.
I think I can be 'forgiven' for assuming every Christian, especially practicing Christians affirm that they are in a relationship with God.
It isn't relevant to the discussion though - I meant it as a side point.
I didn't suggest that you claimed superior knowledge. I suggested that you implied that Atheists claim to know more than they can.No it was relevant to your assumptions that I implied superior knowledge to you, which was not stated at all. Baiting to your desired outcome won't work.
How do you know that was false? There are more that were really dead for 3 days. I watched that movie from that man with Reinhard Bonnke to build my faith and I asked them to pray when I had had a miscarriage with 7 weeks and he had already gone out of my body. My ex said: God can wave a new body. So I prayed, saw two angels bringing him back, got an echo and he was back in my body. I saw it with my own eyes, so that's why I believe that that man was also resurrected.False death diagnosis is embarrassingly bad. It's been reported before on several occasions. One man happened to have had a hallucination whilst being in a coma. Doesn't validate the idea of hell.
So I say, seen by none.
Strange, you sound like a Calvinist.There is no free will.
The concern here is as a 'humanist' we're skeptical that all humans have your best interest in mind, and that you have theirs. For some strange reason, beyond my own beliefs, I'm willing to wager that some may look out for their own.What evil have I repaid people with? Why do I deserve to be tortured just for "not changing" or not changing in the appropriate way?
It's a difficult matter to wrap our heads around. We feel the need to understand maybe to help others come back from unbelief, or prevent ourselves from falling away. I for one appreciate the conversation, and patience.
I never said that most humans have my interests in mind. That's not even why I call myself a Humanist.Strange, you sound like a Calvinist.
The concern here is as a 'humanist' we're skeptical that all humans have your best interest in mind, and that you have theirs. For some strange reason, beyond my own beliefs, I'm willing to wager that most look out for their own.
You don't need to worry about true Christians. They are not concerned about what you believe or the laws of man. They will not chop your head off. You err in believing that being born again is even remotely related to religions like Muslim, or even Catholicism. Religions are of man.
I do not feel this applies to me. I am not threatened by your choices about God. It doesn't affect me.Could be. And, it could also be a Christian feels threatened when someone has left their belief and they need to comfort themselves, by rationalizing why those people are wrong, or were never Christians.
With any type of belief and especially beliefs that lack objective evidence, you have tons of personal psychology involved with them.
You cannot.How do you determine between a true Christian and someone who claims to be Christian, but they don't meet the criteria?
I am against our government trying to control us at all. Our government has in fact begun to encroach on our thoughts. I am not at all in favor of incarcerating anyone for what they believe. You are mistaken.
However, it is stated clearly in Scripture regardless if you believe it or not. I happen to believe God and what He says, which means you were never born again to begin with. A Christian is transferred from death to life and cannot become unborn again.
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