If I die in a state of mortal sin

[dangerousdave]

If I die in a state of mortal sin am I going to hell. I have a few weakness's. Sins of the flesh would be one of them. Sometimes I know I'm going to do wrong and I do it anyway. Its not that I'm trying to offend God, its just that its hard. If I was to go out tommorow and get hit with a car would that be it - Hell.

 

[RCCdefender]

If I die in a state of mortal sin am I going to hell. I have a few weakness's. Sins of the flesh would be one of them. Sometimes I know I'm going to do wrong and I do it anyway. Its not that I'm trying to offend God, its just that its hard. If I was to go out tommorow and get hit with a car would that be it - Hell.

Yep

 

[dangerousdave]

Yep

What? your kidding. No mercy at all.

 

[Aaron-Aggie]

If you are indead in mortal sin you will go to hell, and that is no matter to make light off and should be a reminder to all.

However the question of what quilfies as a mortal sin is a diffuclt one becuase of the complectiy of such matters. God is the only one who can truely read our hearts on such things. But be warn you can not fool God as you can your self and others.

Mercyfully God has seen fit to provide a method of resassuring us of his forgivness trhough the sacrmenet of reconelation (confesson).

Also don't forget to pray for perseverance after you seek forgivness. for only through God's graces will you over come habitail sin

PART 3, SECTION 1 1, CHAPTER 1 1, ARTICLE 8, SUBSECTION 4


IV. THE GRAVITY OF SIN: MORTAL AND VENIAL SIN

1854 Sins are rightly evaluated according to their gravity. The distinction between mortal and venial sin, already evident in Scripture, 129 became part of the tradition of the Church. It is corroborated by human experience.



1855 Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law; it turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him.

Venial sin allows charity to subsist, even though it offends and wounds it.

1856 Mortal sin, by attacking the vital principle within us - that is, charity - necessitates a new initiative of God's mercy and a conversion of heart which is normally accomplished within the setting of the sacrament of reconciliation:

When the will sets itself upon something that is of its nature incompatible with the charity that orients man toward his ultimate end, then the sin is mortal by its very object . . . whether it contradicts the love of God, such as blasphemy or perjury, or the love of neighbor, such as homicide or adultery.... But when the sinner's will is set upon something that of its nature involves a disorder, but is not opposed to the love of God and neighbor, such as thoughtless chatter or immoderate laughter and the like, such sins are venial. 130

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent." 131

1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: "Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother." 132 The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.

1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God's law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart 133 do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.

1860 Unintentional ignorance can diminish or even remove the imputability of a grave offense. But no one is deemed to be ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are written in the conscience of every man. The promptings of feelings and passions can also diminish the voluntary and free character of the offense, as can external pressures or pathological disorders. Sin committed through malice, by deliberate choice of evil, is the gravest.

1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.

1862 One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law, or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or without complete consent.

1863 Venial sin weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul's progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial sin disposes us little by little to commit mortal sin. However venial sin does not break the covenant with God. With God's grace it is humanly reparable. "Venial sin does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently eternal happiness." 134

While he is in the flesh, man cannot help but have at least some light sins. But do not despise these sins which we call "light": if you take them for light when you weigh them, tremble when you count them. A number of light objects makes a great mass; a number of drops fills a river; a number of grains makes a heap. What then is our hope? Above all, confession. 135​

1864 "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." 136 There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. 137 Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.

 

[Sisof8]

it depends... i can't see your heart, i can't see what God can see... but if you are intentionally choosing to do what you know is wrong and you are not trying to stop... then that's a pretty good indicator you're not trying to honor God, and i would be gravely concerned for your soul.

that said... i am a sinner in need of grace, and i mess up all the time.

 

[dangerousdave]

If you are indead in mortal sin you will go to hell, and that is no matter to make light off and should be a reminder to all.

However the question of what quilfies as a mortal sin is a diffuclt one becuase of the complectiy of such matters. God is the only one who can truely read our hearts on such things. But be warn you can not fool God as you can your self and others.

Mercyfully God has seen fit to provide a method of resassuring us of his forgivness trhough the sacrmenet of reconelation (confesson).

Also don't forget to pray for perseverance after you seek forgivness. for only through God's graces will you over come habitail sin

Im certainly not taking it light brother, thats why Im asking the question. It scares me very much.

 

[RCCdefender]

What? your kidding. No mercy at all.

It would'nt be Gods fault. He always shows mercy but you chose Hell. I will pray for you. I hope you can overcome your provblems by the Grace of God

 

[Miss Shelby]

If I die in a state of mortal sin am I going to hell. I have a few weakness's. Sins of the flesh would be one of them. Sometimes I know I'm going to do wrong and I do it anyway. Its not that I'm trying to offend God, its just that its hard. If I was to go out tommorow and get hit with a car would that be it - Hell.

It's dependant on one's full knowlede that it's a mortal sin and whether they commit it with full consent of the will. (what they are doing might still be wrong, but they might not be aware of the gravity of it)

If it's something that has to do with an addiction... that can be a totally different story... and if it's something that a person is TRULY repentant for and makes a perfect act of contrition before seeing a priest (assuming they're catholic) then it can be forgiven.

There are fine lines with this... so don't be too quick to assume things.

I'm not sure if you're Catholic or not dave, and that makes difference too... depending on your education of these things, and your own life circumstances. (addictions being one)

Michelle

 

[dangerousdave]

It would'nt be Gods fault. He always shows mercy but you chose Hell.

Come on brother, don't you think your being a little harsh with me. I'm beginning to fill my nappy here.

 

[dangerousdave]

It's dependant on one's full knowlede that it's a mortal sin and whether they commit it with full consent of the will.

If it's something that has to do with an addiction... that can be a totally different story... and if it's something that a person is TRULY repentant for and makes a perfect act of contrition before seeing a priest (assuming they're catholic) then it can be forgiven.

There are fine lines with this... so don't be too quick to assume things.

I'm not sure if you're Catholic or not dave, and that makes difference too... depending on your education of these things, and your own life circumstances. (addictions being one)

Michelle

This is just freaking me out talking about it but thanks anyway.

 

[dangerousdave]

Glory be to the Most Holy Trinity. Help me Mary, don't let me fall.

 

[Sisof8]

chances are... if you are aware that you are sinning and you are aware it is a mortal sin and you are choosing to do it... well.. it's kinda like RCCdefender said... you're CHOOSING hell...

 

[RCCdefender]

Come on brother, don't you think your being a little harsh with me. I'm beginning to fill my nappy here.

I'm not trying to be harsh I just think the truth is just that its the Truth. I'm not by any stretch of the mind making light of the situation. I'm just stating the position of the Church. I will keep you in my Prayers. We are who we are, but we are called to be who we are not. May the peace of Christ be with you.

 

[Miss Shelby]

This is just freaking me out talking about it but thanks anyway.

Well... you did ask.

But there is no reason to be freaked out. Beg for God's mercy and forgiveness and try to rectify wrongs... (if this is a personal thing you are referring to)--and go from there. Ask God to teach you. It's a process.... for all of us.

Michelle

 

[Miss Shelby]

I'm not trying to be harsh I just think the truth is just that its the Truth. I'm not by any stretch of the mind making light of the situation. I'm just stating the position of the Church. I will keep you in my Prayers. We are who we are, but we are called to be who we are not. May the peace of Christ be with you.

RCC, I can appreciate your zealousness for truth, but, realistically, non of us comes to the understanding of the truth without being in sin first, sometimes mortal...and we all remain sinners everafter... So, in that case, grace shouldn't only come from God... it should come from us, too..and what you've been saying, though true, might sound a little condemning for someone struggling with sin.

Michelle

 

[RCCdefender]

Glory be to the Most Holy Trinity. Help me Mary, don't let me fall.

Dave, If you are Catholic, go to confession. It is a wellspring of grace given to us by Christ. And continually pray without ceasing. I know where you are coming from. Overcoming temptations of the flesh is not easy. when you feel tempted think of Christ's sorrowfull passion and that usually does it for me. Pray, pray, pray and don't give up and once again if you are Catholic frequent confession it will help you.

 

[dangerousdave]

Listen, hey!! your all good people and I appreciate the truth. Its just scary thats all. I don't want to go to hell but I am as weak as ****. I really hope God can have mercy on this terrible sinner and believe me I have sinned.

 

[RCCdefender]

RCC, I can appreciate your zealousness for truth, but, realistically, non of us comes to the understanding of the truth without being in sin first, sometimes mortal...and we all remain sinners everafter... So, in that case, grace shouldn't only come from God... it should come from us, too..and what you've been saying, though true, might sound a little condemning for someone struggling with sin.

Michelle

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm a blunt person. And his question needed a blunt answer. Not some sugar coated junk that could cause him his immortal soul.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Listen, hey!! your all good people and I appreciate the truth. Its just scary thats all. I don't want to go to hell but I am as weak as ****. I really hope God can have mercy on this terrible sinner and believe me I have sinned.

St. Paul was the chief of sinners, and as weak as ****, according to a letter of his... and the only thing that saved him was his willingness to be the Lord's servant.

Prayers for you, dave, I am keeping you in thought too.

Michelle

 

[RCCdefender]

Listen, hey!! your all good people and I appreciate the truth. Its just scary thats all. I don't want to go to hell but I am as weak as ****. I really hope God can have mercy on this terrible sinner and believe me I have sinned.

Dave make sure you read post #16. And may the peace of Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you, always.