Originally Posted by God's Word
First of all, THE BIBLE condemns wizardry of any sort. IOW, there is no such thing as "good wizardry". If you don't like this fact, then that is your problem and not mine.
I never said there was such a thing as good wizardry. I said the Harry Potter books were about good vs. evil. You wrote on page 13, post # 128:
The Harry Potter books are not stories about "good vs. evil", but rather stories about GOOD WIZARDRY (as if there really is such a thing...THERE ISN'T) vs. BAD WIZARDRY.
You're projecting your own statement onto me and asking me to provide evidence of good wizardry. LOL There is more going on in the books than wizards and witches casting spells. I don't have a problem, I've read the books, seen the movies and have moved on. You haven't moved on. Sounds to me like you're the one with issues here. Also you should really change your SN, since you're not God's Word.
Leviticus 19:31
"Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God."
Leviticus 20:6
"And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a-whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people."
Leviticus 20:27
"A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them."
Deuteronomy 18:9-12
"When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."
I Samuel 28:3, 9
"Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had lamented him, and buried him in Ramah, even in his own city. And Saul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land...And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?"
II Kings 21:6 (see also II Chronicles 33:6)
"And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger."
II Kings 23:24-25
"Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the LORD. And like unto him was there no king before him, that turned to the LORD with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him."
Isaiah 8:19
"And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?"
Isaiah 19:3-4
"And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards. And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the LORD, the LORD of hosts."
As far as I know, this is an exhaustive list of all the times that wizards are mentioned in the Bible. What have we learned?
1. That we're not to seek after wizards because they defile.
2. That God will set His face against those who seek after wizards and cut them off from among His people.
3. That wizards were stoned to death.
4. That we're not to learn the ABOMINATIONS of the wizards for which God was driving them out of the land.
5. That wizards were put out of the land.
6. That those who seek wizards do much wickedness in the sight of the LORD and provoke Him to anger.
7. That the one who seeks the LORD with all of his heart, soul and might puts away wizards from the land.
8. That people shouldn't seek wizards, but that they should seek their God.
9. That when God destroys the counsel of a nation, they seek wizards.
Okay...your turn. Show me some of this "good wizardry" that I keep on hearing about. Come on. Folks like you insist that Harry Potter is a "good wizard" who's fighting the battle of "good vs. evil". Show me where God calls any sort of wizardry "good". I won't be holding my breath.
Secondly, although "my past", or my own experiences with demons and those who have actually been involved in witchcraft, is a factor here, "my past" is also a genuine reflection of what PRESENTLY EXISTS in this world. IOW, there are still demons in this world and there are still practioners of magic, so what's your point...other than to possibly deflect the true nature of the argument from God's Word (The Bible) to God's Word (me)?
How can I show you examples of something I've never said? Folks like me insist? Fine, go talk to them. I never said what you think I did, so you're mistaken. I didn't say God called any form of wizardry good. Why don't you address what I've actually written instead of what you mistakenly think I've written? Yeah there are still demons, so what? My point is that reading a Harry Potter book or seeing a Harry Potter movie does not equal what the Scriptures you've quoted here are forbidding. That's my point. Did you get it that time or do you need it explained to you a different way?