if god is real, then why are their bad things? PLZ REPLY <3

[xr022kbKr02h]

Your choices affect other people than yourself. In a perfect society being born with a handicap would not be a handicap. Everyone would care for everyone. This is central to Christian idealism. But, this world is not perfect. Your parents choices affect you. Your grandparents choice affects you too. What your great great grandfather did could have made your family rich, or poor. What your neighbor does affects you... Everything is connected, in some way. Our freedom of choice brigs with it great changes.
As for other things there are factors we cannot affect. But blaming God for all that's bad won't solve a thing,. as a race we strayed from him and we expect him to still make everything perfect?! Isn't that a bit contradictory? I mean, we tell him with our actions and our words that we don't want anything to do with him. And then we procede to whine he does not do anything good for us. It's like a teenager who does not want anything to do with their parents, but still expect an allowance and to be driven everywhere. If we choose to back off from God, we cannot expect him to keep giving us a perfect world. We chose a life apart from him, these are the consequences.

As for good looks vs. hard times, I am yet to meet a very wise and good person who has not struggled.

sounds abit like the buddhist's karma theory

 

[Ovda]

long story short it ended with if God is real then why does bad things happen and exist?

Bad things happen because God gave us FREEWILL. It is our choice to do the things we do. Humans can do great goodness or horrific evils. It is just our choice.

 

[food4thought]

Hello all,

i'm a christian but i have a young friend who does not believe in god yet his parents make him go to church anyway... which btw has nothing to do with my question =P

me and him was talking and god came up (by me on purpose) i'm like so do you believe in christ or no? he said no i dont believe in anything. i said God has been awsome to me ( i speak of god pretty often to everyone) and he said i can understand why you think he is real and thats fine but i dont.

long story short it ended with if God is real then why does bad things happen and exist? then he had to sign offline... this person is a really good kid with an open mind, i'd like for him to start in the right direction how can i answer this question and have a shot with a decent debate?

by the way i couldnt find the right forum for the question so i figure non believer is close enough for a question like this ... i'm sure their are skilled debaters in here.

Thanks, yort

Many excellent answers have been given regarding free will, the fall of man, and the curse of death that lies on all mankind because of our rebellion against God.
Jesus was confronted with the question, and He answered:

Luk 13:1-3

Now on the same occasion there were some present who reported to Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. (2) And Jesus said to them, "Do you suppose that these Galileans were greater sinners than all other Galileans because they suffered this fate? (3) "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

Here Jesus answered regarding the evil things that people do. His answer simply says: "Hey, you're all going to die somehow, does it really matter whether you die one at a time or a billion at a time? YOU WILL ALL DIE. Are you right with God?"

Luk 13:4-5 "Or do you suppose that those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them were worse culprits than all the men who live in Jerusalem? (5) "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."

Here Jesus answered regarding natural disasters. His answer simply says: "Hey, you're all going to die somehow, does it really matter whether you die one at a time or a billion at a time? YOU WILL ALL DIE. Are you right with God?"



The real horror is death, and the real question is: why do we die?

The answer is found in Genesis 3 and Romans 5-8. We sinned, God cursed us and the universe, and death now comes to all men. Not a pleasant reality, but that is God's truth.

I would highly recommend Lee Strobbel's book "The Case for Faith"; the main subject of that book is answering your question. Hope that helps.

 

[In A Perfect World]

Bad things happen because God gave us FREEWILL. It is our choice to do the things we do. Humans can do great goodness or horrific evils. It is just our choice.

Humans don't create natural disasters like tsunamis and tornadoes.

 

[encouraging loves animals]

Bad things happen because of SIN

 

[In A Perfect World]

Bad things happen because of SIN

so my inherited blood disorder comes from the sins I committed in the womb, when in fact I couldn't sin?

 

[MinDach]

inherited blood disorder

I guess you could put it that way, FOR the Blood of Christ is what has saved US.

 

[Drizzt]

The way I see it, if bad things don't happen, then there would be no way to define good things.

so my inherited blood disorder comes from the sins I committed in the womb, when in fact I couldn't sin?

Following encouraging_angels' statement, your blood disorder wouldn't be a bad thing. Going to hell would be a bad thing.

 

[~abc-xyz~]

The way I see it, if bad things don't happen, then there would be no way to define good things.

i believe that trials are meant to make us stronger

 

[In A Perfect World]

i believe that trials are meant to make us stronger

how would that explain why some people get hard trials and others not? People born with AIDS vs. people born into royalty? there are some odds intended by the creator then - to stick people in hurtful places to begin with. Talk about sticking a kitten in a microwave and watching it explode

 

[Faith In God]

Hello all,

i'm a christian but i have a young friend who does not believe in god yet his parents make him go to church anyway... which btw has nothing to do with my question =P

me and him was talking and god came up (by me on purpose) i'm like so do you believe in christ or no? he said no i dont believe in anything. i said God has been awsome to me ( i speak of god pretty often to everyone) and he said i can understand why you think he is real and thats fine but i dont.

long story short it ended with if God is real then why does bad things happen and exist? then he had to sign offline... this person is a really good kid with an open mind, i'd like for him to start in the right direction how can i answer this question and have a shot with a decent debate?

by the way i couldnt find the right forum for the question so i figure non believer is close enough for a question like this ... i'm sure their are skilled debaters in here.

Thanks, yort

If God is real, then suffering proves His existence. God's Word gives the reason for suffering: sin. We live in a fallen creation. So why hasn't God delt with it? He will. He hasn't yet because He is patient, not willing that any should perish but that all will come to Him in repentence. Spread the word!

 

[flameingcrouton]

Bad things for mainly two reasons. The first is free will. When God made us, he gave us free will, free will to do bad or good. If someone is robbed it is because the robber had free will to do it. If someone dies in a drunk driving accedent, it's because the driver chose to drive after drinking. (Also if no one died the earth would get over populated and we'd have a big problem). The second reason is because it is part of God's plan. God knows exactly what will happen in 10 minutes, 10 hours, or 10 years. And he knows exactly how it will effect the future. The bible says all things work for the good of those who love the lord. If something bad happens, it's because it's part of a bigger plan for something good to happen. Hope that helped. God bless.

 

[jnhofzinser]

how can i answer this question and have a shot with a decent debate?

Might I humbly suggest that you attempt a different approach? The faith that saves is not so much of the head than of the heart. Usually, folk who "cannot believe in God because of the evil in the world" come in two varieties:

1. Folk for whom the issue is just a "smoke-screen" so they don't have to deal with God's claims.
2. Folk who are hurting, and feel the injustice of society.

In both cases, these folk tend not to be amenable to debate. Instead, they need to be "loved into the kingdom" -- i.e., prove their argument invalid by representing the love of God (love which they do not deserve) in their lives through sincere friendship.

 

[ALIOSIAS]

Because there is satan who causes them.

2 Corinthians 4:4 - In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God should shine unto them.