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It is the means of correct interpretaton.Your purpose seems to be to question the authority of all Scripture if it does not agree with your sense of "NT didactics?" Of course, Scripture agrees with itself, Law, History, Poetry, Prophecy, etc. But the idea that Scripture agrees with NT fundamentals is as old as the hills, though it does not tend to marginalize any of these categories. Harmonizing them with a NT perspective merely helps us to understand them as a whole.
I'm not sure how you're defining "didactics" here? In the OT most of the categories of Scripture are viewed as "not didactical." In the NT we have the Gospels as history and the book of Acts as history. Do you then see these as "didactical" too?All of the NT is didactics, except for Revelation, which is prophecy, which God says he speaks in riddles (dark sayings) and not cleary (Nu 12:6-8)
Yes, Jesus can be interpreted in more than one way. Paul's letters can be read in more than one way, except that we can all agree it was the New Testament, and it was Christian. I think you are trying to use an illegitimate argument to disprove the value of Prophecy and the book of Revelation, particularly as it relates to Israel and the Millennium.Prophecy can be interpreted in more than one way, and which way being correct, if any, not really being known until its fulfillment.
All I'm saying is that any interpretation of prophetic riddles not spoken clearly (Nu 12:6-8) which is not in agreement with NT teaching is incorrect interpretation, for God does not contradict himself in his word written.I'm not sure how you're defining "didactics" here? In the OT most of the categories of Scripture are viewed as "not didactical." In the NT we have the Gospels as history and the book of Acts as history. Do you then see these as "didactical" too?
I think what you're really aiming at, respectfully, is doctrine? If so, please recognize that doctrine can be carried by a wide variety of literary styles, from Law to Poetry to Prophecy. Your attempt at marginalizing Prophecy in the book of Revelation is shameful, inasmuch as Jesus himself emphasized its importance, to be both read and kept.
Yes, Jesus can be interpreted in more than one way. Paul's letters can be read in more than one way, except that we can all agree it was the New Testament, and it was Christian. I think you are trying to use an illegitimate argument to disprove the value of Prophecy and the book of Revelation, particularly as it relates to Israel and the Millennium.
I of course agree with that! But that brings us full circle--I believe that NT apostolic teaching does, in fact, teach the future salvation of national Israel, following the return of Jesus. Rom 9-11.All I'm saying is that any interpretation of prophetic riddles not spoken clearly (Nu 12:6-8) which is not in agreement with NT teaching is incorrect interpretation, for God does not contradict himself in his word written.
But we have the apostolic teaching (Ro 11:16-23) of Christ (Lk 10:16) which makes it conditional, (IF), and not certain (WHEN).I of course agree with that! But that brings us full circle--I believe that NT apostolic teaching does, in fact, teach the future salvation of national Israel, following the return of Jesus. Rom 9-11.
All of OT Scripture points to this, as well as to the fulfillment of nations of faith, promised to Abraham. The Law was given built upon the predicate of Abraham's promise, to the Israeli nation as well as to many nations of faith. The Prophets, also, were devoted to this end, to begin with Israel who was to be a light to the nations.
The Law was to safeguard Israel in righteousness until Christ came. And then, the Gospel would guide the nations until the time when all of them would be restored.
All this was promised to be the end of Christ's mission, to bring grace to fallen Israel, as an example of God's grace to the entire world. This is apostolic teaching, even if it has only started in this age and will only be fulfilled in the next age.
[NRSVUE NU 12:6-8] 6 And he said, “Hear my words: When there are prophets among you, I the Lord make myself known to them in visions; I speak to them in dreams. 7 Not so with my servant Moses; he is faithful in all my house. 8 With him I speak face to face—clearly, not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the Lord. “Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?”
*** a Catholic perspective
A Catholic Commentary on Numbers 12:6-8
Dear brother or sister in Christ, as you contemplate these sacred words from Numbers, you are witnessing God's own testimony to the unique relationship He established with Moses—a relationship that prefigures and points toward the ultimate revelation in Jesus Christ.
The Hierarchy of Revelation (v. 6) Notice how the Lord distinguishes between the ordinary means of prophetic revelation—visions and dreams—and something far more intimate. The Catholic Church teaches that while God has always communicated with His people through various means, He reserves His most direct communication for those whom He chooses for the most sacred missions. As you read this, consider how God still speaks to you today through Scripture, the Magisterium, and the sacraments, though perhaps not with the same immediacy Moses experienced.
Moses as Type of Christ (v. 7) When God declares Moses "faithful in all my house," you should see this as a foreshadowing of Christ, who is faithful as Son over God's house (Hebrews 3:5-6). The Catechism teaches us that the Old Testament prefigures the New, and Moses' unique faithfulness points to the perfect faithfulness of Jesus. As you strive for faithfulness in your own Christian walk, you have Moses as an example and Christ as your perfect model and source of grace.
Face-to-Face Communication (v. 8) The intimacy of Moses speaking with God "face to face—clearly, not in riddles" anticipates the Beatific Vision promised to the faithful. The Catholic tradition understands that while Moses enjoyed extraordinary intimacy with God, it was still veiled compared to the direct vision of God's essence that awaits the blessed in heaven. Your own prayer life, nourished by the Eucharist and guided by the Church's wisdom, participates in this same divine intimacy, though in a different mode.
Respect for God's Chosen (v. 8b) The Lord's rebuke—"Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?"—reminds you to show proper reverence for those whom God has established in authority. The Church teaches that we must respect the hierarchy God has established, whether in the family, the Church, or civil society, recognising that legitimate authority comes from God Himself.
In your meditation on this passage, let it deepen your appreciation for how God has progressively revealed Himself, culminating in the face-to-face encounter with the divine in Jesus Christ, whom you receive intimately in the Holy Eucharist.
That stuff is "reformation" anti-Catholic propaganda and people ought to have grown out of it by now.Very nice. By the way I get so ticked at people who claim Roman Catholics are discouraged from reading Scripture, since not only did the Church in Rome develop Lectio Divina, but also grants a plenary indulgence for the reading of Scripture (I along with many others have a copy of the Challoner revision of the Douai-Rheims that includes a table and other detailed information on that aspect).
Likewise those who would suggest the same about my church ignore our long history of making scripture available to the laity.
I already showed you that it is no contradiction to apply a condition, and then to establish that some will fulfill that condition. "If my People who are called by my Name will humble themselves and pray, and turn from their sins, then will I hear from heaven."But we have the apostolic teaching (Ro 11:16-23) of Christ (Lk 10:16) which makes it conditional, (IF), and not certain (WHEN).
Then we are in agreement. . .the promise is being fulfilled in a remnant, the same way salvation is fulflled among the Gentiles. . .all mankind are on the same footing; i.e., salvation is only through faith in Jesus Christ.I already showed you that it is no contradiction to apply a condition, and then to establish that some will fulfill that condition.
Yes, we are agreed that at present there is a remnant fulfilling the condition necessary for at least part of Israel to fulfill God's promise to Abraham. But we are not agreed on the idea that God's promise to Abraham requires the complete political deliverance of the nation of Israel, "never more" to be oppressed by the nations.Then we are in agreement. . .the promise is being fulfilled in a remnant, the same way salvation is fulflled among the Gentiles. . .all mankind are on the same footing; i.e., salvation is only through faith in Jesus Christ.
Christ's second coming is the end of time, and he comes to judge, not save.Yes, we are agreed that at present there is a remnant fulfilling the condition necessary for at least part of Israel to fulfill God's promise to Abraham. But we are not agreed on the idea that God's promise to Abraham requires the complete political deliverance of the nation of Israel, "never more" to be oppressed by the nations.
That will happen, I believe, at Christ's Coming.
You're just declaring your own Amillennial beliefs. There are many today who, like me, are Premillennialists.Christ's second coming is the end of time, and he comes to judge, not save.
Salvation was the purpose of the first coming, not the second, which purpose is judgment.
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