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True enough, they even denigrate the very concept of "faith" and "religion," just to try and gain parity with science!
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Try learning what deism means, then rejoin the discussion.
It is amusing though watching diehard Christians endorse every religion under the sun, anything to avoid having to face that icky evolution.
Faith is believing something, even when science says otherwise.True enough, they even denigrate the very concept of "faith" and "religion," just to try and gain parity with science!
Insane_Duck said:I choose cake. That's right, an inter-dimensional cake created our universe. Not by force of will, it's just something it spontaneously does. The cake is eternal and unchanging and moreover, it doesn't inhabit our dimension so it doesn't require a cause. (our slogan: "The cake is not a lie.")
Greg1234 said:It simply means that "cake" takes on the attribute of God, desserts its conventional meaning and adopts the information that was encoded within "first cause."
Faith is believing something, even when science says otherwise.
Religion is the sum total of one's beliefs that cause him to act in faith.
(Definitions subject to change by author --)
That's right -- you gotta better definition?So you've chosen to define faith as antithetical to science --
That's right -- you gotta better definition?
Then you don't debate much, do you?I'm rather partial to "Something that is believed with strong conviction."
That way, you don't need to leech off of "science" to make yourself feel important -- you have a definition that stands on its own merits, and you don't need to tear anything else down to build yourself up.
Then you don't debate much, do you?
Your definition invites others to show up and say, "But science says..."
My definition [should put] a halt to that before it ever gets started.
Faith is believing something, even when science says otherwise.
No, that's not it.Faith is belief in something without evidence. That's it.
Faith is believing something, even when science says otherwise.
Religion is the sum total of one's beliefs that cause him to act in faith.
(Definitions subject to change by author --)
I realize that -- that's why I said:Not according to the KJV Bible.
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Not according to the KJV Bible.
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
When you drive across a bridge, you are showing evidence of your faith in the unseen laws of the universe that say you can drive across that bridge w/o the bridge collapsing.Which is nonsense.
How does believing in something constitute as evidence for it's existence?
Your definition invites others to show up and say, "But science says..."
My definition [should put] a halt to that before it ever gets started.
True enough, they even denigrate the very concept of "faith" and "religion," just to try and gain parity with science!
Yes -- faith should account for absolutely nothing.And as important as that makes you feel, it counts for absolutely nothing if it's not an accurate and comprehensive definition.
sorry but those that understand science know what keeps the bridge from collapsing.When you drive across a bridge, you are showing evidence of your faith in the unseen laws of the universe that say you can drive across that bridge w/o the bridge collapsing.
Yes -- faith should account for absolutely nothing.
When discussing creatio ex nihilo, for example, we see that God created the universe from absolutely no...
Oh, wait -- you said "counts" -- not "accounts".
-- sorry.
I was just over at Wikipedia and it says there are over 38,000 Christian sects. Which one did you just endorse?In your dreams!!! Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
Firstly, I only endorse Christianity!! Secondly, just because this world and probably some unbelievers posing as pseudo-christians, tried to put a definition to faith and religion (because they had no clue) and we might disagree with their definition does not mean that we in anyway try to denigrate the concepts of either and LAST of all to gain parity with science!!! Hello!!!
You are so blinded by your worship of science that you can't even see or hear for the matter what we are saying... Does the phrase "science can take a hike" sound ANYTHING like we want to gain parity with science.
You guys are so used to patting each other on the back and drooling all over yourselves that you have NO IDEA or CLUE that others standback and wonder just HOW you could not see the truth!! It is so clear!!
Here's a test to show you just where we stand with your views and so called science. Imagine this.... you are at 0 degrees and WAY over on the other side at 180 degrees is where we are... can you see that??? AND..... we DON'T .... that's a BIG DO NOT.... agree with nor WANT to agree with you on the science that does not agree with the BIBLE. We are not wishing or hoping that you can help us to see it better in any way.
The only ones who will do that are pseudo-christians or faux-chrisitians that are out there. They have no idea what faith, religion, God or Jesus is all about anyway. They build their religion on sand just as Jesus said because they do not do the things that He has told them. Science "so called" is part of that sandy ground and will someday crumble. ANYONE who bases their belief on science will fall with it. Kaboom!!
NO, NO, NO, we want no part of the devastation and destruction that inevitably will happen.
Our faith is built on nothing less than Jesus and HIS righteousness. On Christ the solid Rock we stand ALL other ground is sinking sand!!!
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