If creationism is true, then why is it useless?

[AV1611VET]

But the Bible isn't part of this equation -- it's James Ussher vs. Reality.

Bible: The whole earth was one language.
Historian: We found different languages.
AV1611VET: Historians are wrong. They need to go back and rethink what they found. Are they absolutely sure it was prior to Genesis 11? If so, I don't care how sure they are; they are wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

And by “Boolean Standards” you really mean, cognitive dissonance.

If I got cognitive dissonance every time science said something contrary to the Bible, I'd go MAD.

 

[HitchSlap]

If I got cognitive dissonance every time science said something contrary to the Bible, I'd go MAD.

Makes sense to me.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Bible: The whole earth was one language.
Historian: We found different languages.
AV1611VET: Historians are wrong. They need to go back and rethink what they found. Are they absolutely sure it was prior to Genesis 11? If so, I don't care how sure they are; they are wrong.

James Ussher: And I know the exact year that happened.
AV1611VET: Ussher's work is infallible and without error. Let Ussher be true, and every man a liar.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV1611VET: Ussher's work is infallible and without error. Let Ussher be true, and every man a liar.

Here you go, professor:

I use Ussher's dating method as the standard method of dating things, and I realize his calculations may be flawed; but I agree with you that +/- a few hundred years isn't going to make or break our Lord's Bible.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Here you go, professor:

Sounds like either Ussher got it wrong or the Bible did. Either way, close enough seems to be the new infallible...

 

[AV1611VET]

Sounds like either Ussher got it wrong or the Bible did.

Either way you're wrong.

The whole earth was one language prior to the Babel incident.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Either way you're wrong.

The whole earth was one language prior to the Babel incident.

But Ussher got the dates of that incident wrong -- and he relied on the Bible even more than you do.

 

[AV1611VET]

But Ussher got the dates of that incident wrong --

He did!?

-- and he relied on the Bible even more than you do.

Well ... professor ... what's the correct date according to the Bible?

 

[TLK Valentine]

He did!?

Indeed --unless your faith in his infallibility remains total and unshakable.

Well ... professor ... what's the correct date according to the Bible?

The Bible has no date. Might as well ask for Noah's birthday, while you're at it.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Bible has no date.

Then give It one.

That way you won't look -- [well, nevermind].

That way you'll look scholarly when someone asks you the year of the Flood or something ... professor.

 

[HitchSlap]

Then give It one.

This in a nutshell, is the problem. You guys just "give it one," while ignoring all the real evidence. Then you guys wonder why we don't take your claims seriously.

 

[AV1611VET]

This in a nutshell, is the problem. You guys just "give it one," while ignoring all the real evidence.

Well we certainly wouldn't want to disappoint all those "scholars" who ask us for one, would we?

And we don't "just give it one."

If you think it's so easy to do, you try it ... scientist.

Our resident professor of literature doesn't seem to want to.

 

[HitchSlap]

Well we certainly wouldn't want to disappoint all those "scholars" who ask us for one, would we?

And we don't "just give it one."

If you think it's so easy to do, you try it ... scientist.

Our resident professor of literature doesn't seem to want to.

If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times, an improper understanding of a creation myth will distort your understanding of reality. Every time.

I'll "give it a time," as soon as you tell me when you think Romulus & Remus story happened.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Well we certainly wouldn't want to disappoint all those "scholars" who ask us for one, would we?

-_- why would you care? Honesty matters far more, in my opinion. However, you could just give a range based on the time period between Adam and the first mention of other languages in the bible that has a date attached to it.

And we don't "just give it one."

If you think it's so easy to do, you try it ... scientist.

Dude, I don't think the Babel events actually happened, but given how well versed you are in matters of the bible, I'm sure you can find the first mention of multiple languages in it.

 

[tyke]

Bishop Ussher's dating technique was just a case of connecting the dots!

 

[AV1611VET]

Bishop Ussher's dating technique was just a case of connecting the dots!

I'll agree.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then give It one.

Why should I add things to the Bible which aren't there? It's your book; you edit it.

That way you won't look -- [well, nevermind].

Don't be jealous, AV -- I could never outdo you.

That way you'll look scholarly when someone asks you the year of the Flood or something ... professor.

"Look" scholarly, indeed -- but it'd be a pretty thin disguise.
I guess I just don't share your fixation with appearances over truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why should I add things to the Bible which aren't there?

Is that what you see Ussher doing?

 

[HitchSlap]

Is that what you see Ussher doing?

Oh AV, are you really this blinded?