If creationism is true, then why is it useless?

[USincognito]

Or possibly microbiologists. They are quite small minded.

Boooooo!

 

[AV1611VET]

I've been struggling to figure out the applications for creationism.

You can cease anytime, unless that's your bag.

I mean, if creationism was true, wouldn't they have figured out a way to use it with respect to applied biology, geology, etc, by now?

No.

What's the hold up?

Luke used it effectively to create a mindset that is opposed to evolution.

Jesus used it effectively to create a mindset that is opposed to homosexuality.

 

[Drick]

What is an "evolutionary profession"?

Evolutionary Psychology, Evolutionary Biology, etc.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolutionary Psychology, Evolutionary Biology, etc.

 

[xianghua]

Using common descent to figure out which parts of our DNA are functionally important -- very helpful for all kinds of biomedical research.

actually we use logic to conclude which parts of our genome are important, not a common descent theory. we can conclude the same under the creation model too.

 

[Everybodyknows]

I've been struggling to figure out the applications for creationism. Besides theme parks and merchandising, there doesn't appear to be anything else.

Why no biological applications? Or any other areas of applied science?

I mean, if creationism was true, wouldn't they have figured out a way to use it with respect to applied biology, geology, etc, by now? What's the hold up?

Well creationism has saved millions from the fires of hell. That's a pretty neat application!

 

[sfs]

actually we use logic to conclude which parts of our genome are important, not a common descent theory. we can conclude the same under the creation model too.

Right. And you've demonstrated this ability by being unable during an extended exchange to (a) state what the creation model is, or (b) offer a single prediction about genetics made by said absent model. But you're still confident you could do it, if you really wanted to.

 

[sfs]

Well creationism has saved millions from the fires of hell. That's a pretty neat application!

What religion believes that creationism saves people from hell? That's certainly not a Christian doctrine.

 

[faroukfarouk]

1 Corinthians 15.22:

"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

1 Corinthians 15.45:

"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

 

[USincognito]

Evolutionary Psychology, Evolutionary Biology, etc.

What about paleontology, genetics and geology?

 

[Drick]

What about paleontology, genetics and geology?

I haven't met a Christian yet that denies the existence of fossils, tectonic plates, or genes. Many have odd ideas about where and when they come from due to the literalism that many adhere to, but nothing that would prohibit most from performing those jobs adequately.

Maybe if they're dating fossils, I could agree with you here, but that's about all.

 

[Strathos]

I haven't met a Christian yet that denies the existence of fossils, tectonic plates, or genes. Many have odd ideas about where and when they come from due to the literalism that many adhere to, but nothing that would prohibit most from performing those jobs adequately.

Maybe if they're dating fossils, I could agree with you here, but that's about all.

I dated a fossil once. I had a phase where I was into older women.

 

[Drick]

I dated a fossil once. I had a phase where I was into older women.

I chuckled and now I'm ashamed.

 

[pitabread]

actually we use logic to conclude which parts of our genome are important, not a common descent theory. we can conclude the same under the creation model too.

You keep saying this but when push comes to shove you can't describe how it would work nor give any real examples. In fact you don't appear to have any sort of 'creation model' at all...

 

[Everybodyknows]

What religion believes that creationism saves people from hell? That's certainly not a Christian doctrine.

The religion of creationism. Once saved the spirit leads us to truth. Believing in evolution is evidence that one wasn't really ever saved.

 

[Ophiolite]

The religion of creationism. Once saved the spirit leads us to truth. Believing in evolution is evidence that one wasn't really ever saved.

It was my understanding that only God knows who is or is not saved. Am I incorrect?

Stating that evolution believers are not going to be saved appears to be equivalent to stating that they are not true Christians. That would seem to be contrary to forum rules: Stating or implying that another Christian member, or group of members, are not Christian is not allowed.

If you wish, I can report your post and we can find out if my understanding regarding the forum rules is applicable in this case. Let me know.

 

[SkyWriting]

I've been struggling to figure out the applications for creationism. Besides theme parks and merchandising, there doesn't appear to be anything else.

Why no biological applications? Or any other areas of applied science?

I mean, if creationism was true, wouldn't they have figured out a way to use it with respect to applied biology, geology, etc, by now? What's the hold up?

Faith has benefits that don't appear until after it is practiced internally.

Branches of modern science were founded by believers in creation.

• Physics: Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin
• Chemistry: Boyle, Dalton, Ramsay
• Biology: Ray, Linnaeus, Mendel, Pasteur, Virchow, Agassiz
• Geology: Steno, Woodward, Brewster, Buckland, Cuvier
• Astronomy: Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Herschel, Maunder
• Mathematics: Pascal, Leibnitz

The Creationist Basis for Modern Science

 

[Strathos]

Faith has benefits that don't appear until after it is practiced internally.

Branches of modern science were founded by believers in creation.

• Physics: Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin
• Chemistry: Boyle, Dalton, Ramsay
• Biology: Ray, Linnaeus, Mendel, Pasteur, Virchow, Agassiz
• Geology: Steno, Woodward, Brewster, Buckland, Cuvier
• Astronomy: Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Herschel, Maunder
• Mathematics: Pascal, Leibnitz

The Creationist Basis for Modern Science

Were you expecting them to support the ToE before it was ever discovered and formulated?

 

[SkyWriting]

Were you expecting them to support the ToE before it was ever discovered and formulated?

Point being, they did embrace Creationism and the results are documented.
This is counter to your premise.

As to your misconception: Evolutionary thought, the conception that species change over time, has roots in antiquity - in the ideas of the ancient Greeks, Romans, and Chinese as well as in medieval Islamic science. Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744 – 1829) proposed his theory of the transmutation of species, the first fully formed theory of evolution. History of evolutionary thought - Wikipedia

 

[Everybodyknows]

It was my understanding that only God knows who is or is not saved. Am I incorrect?

Stating that evolution believers are not going to be saved appears to be equivalent to stating that they are not true Christians. That would seem to be contrary to forum rules: Stating or implying that another Christian member, or group of members, are not Christian is not allowed.

If you wish, I can report your post and we can find out if my understanding regarding the forum rules is applicable in this case. Let me know.