If Christians, Judists and Muslims still Sin, What is the Personal Transformation?

[KEBO12345]

The command religions command their adherants not to sin for fear
of reprisals. Yet they continue to do it.

Seems to me that regular everyday sin is only a 2nd tier offence
and is justified in each circumstance under the percieved contract
of salvation, rewards and eternal life etc.
As long as one believes in the infallibility of the scheme, one can
continue to sin indefinitey. Where others can not. One type of sin blessed
under some corporate scheme, while the others have no such insurance
on equivalent 'sin' loads. Other rules for those that have no heard of it or do
not believe in sin or the corporations.

Just wondering what then, if any personal transformation goes on in
these adherants? I say none and none seems necessary for that sort of carry on.

 

[ChetSinger]

I can speak only regarding Christianity.

Part of becoming a Christian is professing loyalty to Christ; he becomes our Lord. God then gives us his Holy Spirit, that is, we are born again. And our past sins are forgiven.

Then, Christian life begins. Every Christian has two natures, what Paul calls "the spirit" and "the flesh". As we walk through life, we decide which path we'll take, and which nature we will allow to grow within us. If we decide to walk on God's path, we will be transformed. If we don't, we won't.

If we choose to sin, we can still be forgiven. But God has given us rules. For example, we can't expect to receive more forgiveness than what we give to others. And the Bible also says that love covers a multitude of sins.

We'll still be judged, in that there are degrees of reward in the resurrection just as there are degrees of punishment in hell.

You should see changes in someone's life when they become a Christian. Jesus himself said "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.".

Does this help?

 

[KEBO12345]

Okay Thanks!

Well professing loyalty is one thing, but I think the adherents go
a bit further than that with it. A binding irreverible irrevocable contract on their
being. It becomes a very strong defence from allowing a person to change ones'
mind. It ensures status quo.

If yhou dont mind I have a few questions please?
Q What happens to this Holy spirit that is given permission to infuse with people.
Q
Seems to be a few terms used in these religions that are used to interact
with the ' big guy'?
So which parts of us does it interact and how? Is it the same same for JC infusion?
Our ego mind ?
Our body?
Our Soul? What is soul?
Our heart? what is heart?

Q Do you believe in guardian angels?
Q Do you believe in demons?

 

[PsychoSarah]

My poem is inspired by the fact that being religious does not make one a better person. Sure, some people are inspired by their religion to behave overall better, but the majority of people don't change their behavior in that regard all that much.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

I recieved "spitual eyes" to see with. See story of the blind man being healed at the pool in the New Testament.

I started to have minor visions, become more aware of my thought processes and the "forces" of good and evil floating around in the world and in my cognition. In general, more sensitive to the psychial or spiritual domain. Or, personal and interpersonal psychology.

Morally now I am muslim and avoid intoxicants, and also like to try to be more socially responsible, and to be charitable to the homeless etc.

Also, I used to sympathise with nihilism, not knowing too much about it. Now I am not quite an absolutist, but i believe in good and evil being part and parcel of the human predicament.

 

[KEBO12345]

From memory there are various gifts that the HS can bestow.
and that of discrimination.

In any other religion it would be labelled witchcraft?
But here it is the official spirit craft.

Mystics would say that the ego (conscious mind)
has no spiritual ablity. That when you become truely spiritual
that mind is left aside, thus you are spirit (there is no You.)

People that are psychic have more integration and can discern
various things that the rest of us cannot about the spirit world.
Like in this book Cosmic Ordering which is reputed to be written
by a guardian servant (Angel). Interesting.

Still, I do not think spirit filled periods are any evidence of any
particular creator this one or that.
Rather a spirit force of unknown aetiology.
- or bestowed.

 

[ChetSinger]

If yhou dont mind I have a few questions please?
Q What happens to this Holy spirit that is given permission to infuse with people.

He is many things to us. For example, he is a counselor, offering us wisdom.

Q
Seems to be a few terms used in these religions that are used to interact
with the ' big guy'?
So which parts of us does it interact and how? Is it the same same for JC infusion?
Our ego mind ?
Our body?
Our Soul? What is soul?
Our heart? what is heart?

I am not an expert in this questions. But our body, soul, and mind are all united together. The resurrection of Jesus was a physical resurrection; his body was no longer in the tomb. Likewise, our Christian hope is a bodily resurrection at the end of this age.

Q Do you believe in guardian angels?

Yes, at least for children. Jesus said, "Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven".

Q Do you believe in demons?

Yes, according to early Jewish and Christian tradition they are the spirits of dead Nephilim.

 

[Shempster]

Your question sounds profound and you might be expecting a profound answer that you will be able to annihilate.

I'm quite sure you're REAL question has to be more like "if we are all compelled to sin..why bother worrying about it?"

Aaaah. That I can address. In order to be free from being compelled to sin, one must get free of the demons influencing them. Its not all that hard to do. Just Google the term "self-deliverance" and you'll find the answers (and your freedom) ...BTW...I was there for 47 years. 5 months of true freedom and its amazing!

 

[variant]

Well they believe in the religion afterwards.

 

[Albion]

From memory there are various gifts that the HS can bestow.
and that of discrimination.

In any other religion it would be labelled witchcraft?
But here it is the official spirit craft.

You're referring to discernment. It has nothing to do with witches, etc.

People that are psychic have more integration and can discern

See? Here you used the word itself when trying to explain your thinking.