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Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?
3- can you open the bible to read.
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.
5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.
6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

choose any question of them, i just want to know the answer from any christian.

I'm sorry if i botherd anyone.
and thank you very much.
:)
 

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AhmadRaw said:
1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?

For people who don't know about Christianity, I hope they've found a spiritual worship that works for them. For those who were introduced in a negative way, I feel sorry for them as I feel sorry for anybody who's introduced to any religion negatively, since even if we don't follow that religion, there's a lot we can learn from it and about each other. The children and dead of other religions, I wish them well on their rebirth on the other side. :)

2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?

I pray, meditate, divine, and allow myself to be receptive to His word when He chooses to contact me. No one method universally works better than the other, but each one serves its own purpose.

3- can you open the bible to read.

Yes.

4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.

Son of God.

5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.

Yes, there are Angels, and their role is one that is multi-layered and in many ways, all inclusive. They can be messengers, guardians, prophets, benefactors, warriors. Their role is limitless as long as it is serving God or those who are with God.

6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

Like question 3, I'm not sure I understand this one. If I understand you, you're asking if good deeds mean anything in the other world even if you don't follow the Christian faith. My answer is yes. That is not the popular answer, though.
 
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thank you very much CatholicWith, you are generous.
I meant by question 3 is what i understood by the post of another memeber,
which was like that:

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why is the canon closed?


I know this may be a touchy question, but why can't we reopen the bible, maybe not even take anything out, but I would lean that way.
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and thank you.:)
 
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AhmadRaw said:
Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?
If they do not accept the gospel of Jesus Christ through no fault of their own, it is possible that God will show them mercy, as we see in the parable of the servants that Jesus gave us. Two servants disobeyed their master. One knew the master's will and disobeyed. One disobeyed out of ignorance. The one who disobeyed intentionally was put to death while the other only received a light punishment.


AhmadRaw said:
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?

Prayer first and foremost. Devout reading of scripture, receiving Holy Communion



AhmadRaw said:
3- can you open the bible to read.

I'm not sure what you mean here, but yes we can open the Bible and read it.
AhmadRaw said:
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.
Jesus is the human incarnation of God. He is completely man and completely God. To that extent, he is both God, and the Son of God, as we understand God to be an undivided Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

AhmadRaw said:
5- are there angels, if so, what is their role

Yes there are. They are messengers first and foremost, but they have also served as protectors and instruments of God's justice.
AhmadRaw said:
6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?
It depends on the individual I suppose. We can't buy our way into heaven with charity. If you have heard the gospel and reject it, I can't say you will go to hell or you won't. That's for God to judge. We know only one way to salvation, however, and that is through Jesus Christ.

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AhmadRaw said:
Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?

The Bible teaches that all people are condemned. If they come to believe in Christ as Savior, the Son of God Who is God, God will save them. Jesus is the only way to God the Father. I grew up in America and have become a Christian even though my father was an atheist and my mother is a deist. My father is deceased.

AhmadRaw said:
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?

We communicate through prayer which is either speaking aloud or simply thinking. In prayer we praise God for Who He is, thank God for our blessings, ask for His guidance and to give us wisdom, ask Him to meet our physical and spiritual needs, ask for forgiveness of our sins, and pray that His will be done on earth. God is interested in the sincerity of our hearts when we pray more than the position we are in, but I like to close my eyes to keep out other thoughts.

AhmadRaw said:
3- can you open the bible to read.

I think you are asking if the canon is closed. The reason I believe it is closed is because it already tells how to spend eternity with God and that is the Christian's eternal destination. What more can there be?

AhmadRaw said:
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.

The Christian God is not a man. He is Triune without beginning or end. We have trouble explaining Him. The Christian God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They aren't three gods, yet they can communicate with one another. You will hear Our one God referred to as three Persons, but there really is no word in our language to explain this. God isn't three people, yet we are forced to use the word "Persons."

AhmadRaw said:
5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.

Angels bring messages from God and angels protect us from evil.

AhmadRaw said:
6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

Good works don't win men favor with God. Our works, as non-believers, are as filthy rags. When we come to Christ, our works are for the glory of God.

AhmadRaw said:
choose any question of them, i just want to know the answer from any christian.

I'm sorry if i botherd anyone.
and thank you very much.
:)

It is not a bother at all to be asked about my faith. I have tried to give you the beliefs of evangelical Christians. I hope the English language doesn't make it difficult to understand.

I know some Muslims. They are wonderful people and I'm impressed by their hospitality.

Trinity Explained for Muslims
 
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GodsWordisTrue said:
We communicate through prayer which is either speaking aloud or simply thinking. In prayer we praise God for Who He is, thank God for our blessings, ask for His guidance and for wisdom, ask Him to meet our physical and spiritual needs, ask for forgiveness of our sins, and pray that His will be done on earth. God is interested in the sincerity of our hearts when we pray more than the position we are in, but I like to close my eyes to keep out other thoughts.

The verses for this are:

Matthew 6 (King James Version)
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;

18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.

Matthew 6 (New International Version)
7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us today our daily bread.
12Forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.[a]' 14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Fasting
16"When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 17But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, 18so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
 
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AhmadRaw said:
Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?
3- can you open the bible to read.
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.
5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.
6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

choose any question of them, i just want to know the answer from any christian.

I'm sorry if i botherd anyone.
and thank you very much.
:)

1: I don't know, I haven't figured out the afterlife yet. I'm thinking that everyone, no matter what their beliefs are, continues on the path to the realization of their True Nature as God.

2: There are many ways to communicate with God. I choose prayer, myself. But, sometimes I try meditation. There is no "best" way, any way is fine as long as it helps one feel closer to the divine.

3: I have no clue-I don't even know exactly what canon means...

4: Both.

5: I don't know. There could be angels...but then again...

6: Charity is useful for any life, but not for attaining eternal life. All already possess immortality. But, love and good works means that one is closer to realization of their God status.

Yes, I am a Christian. :) There are so many denominations and non-denominations, you could find the most diverse answers you've ever seen. :)
No bother at all. Thanks for asking. Have a great night. :)

-Cassie
 
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AhmadRaw said:
Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?
3- can you open the bible to read.
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.
5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.
6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

choose any question of them, i just want to know the answer from any christian.

I'm sorry if i botherd anyone.
and thank you very much.
:)

No bother at all. :)

1) It is our charge by God to spread the Gospel to all. Their passage into condemnation is on our heads when we do not present the Gospel to them. But, there are enough pointers in nature that people should seek out Christ on their own, as well. So, it is equally on their heads if they do not find God.
2) Prayer and worship (almost synonymous). Prayer and worship. :)
3) Of course we can open the Bible and read it. That is how we learn about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, how we should act and how we can be Saved.
4) Jesus is both the Son of God and God. He was 100% human and 100% man. We cannot think of it in human terms, because that limits God. God had Scripture written in ways that we can understand this better in our terms.
5) Yes, absolutely. They are messengers to man, are there to worship God and carry out His ultimate plan.
6) I don't understand your question. If you don't believe Jesus is God, God says that eternal life is spent in Hell. No amount of good works can save a person because we are all tainted with sin and not worthy of Heaven. So, since you cannot enter Heaven without Christ, then I would say that no amount of charity will help in eternity. If you DO believe Christ is God, then your charity and deeds for God will increase our riches in Heaven.

God bless you,
Dave
 
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daveleau said:
If you DO believe Christ is God, then your charity and deeds for God will increase our riches in Heaven.

God bless you,
Dave

Dave, I have a question. Do we really get riches, as in possessions, in Heaven? I thought that being with God was our reward --- better than earthly riches.
 
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There's a passage in Revelation that refers to riches in Heaven, as well as in 1 Cor. I'll have to look them up tomorrow. I do agree that the main thing is simply being with God. I do not fully understand what "riches" are, and do not assume that they are restricted to possessions.
 
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AhmadRaw said:
Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

AhmadRaw said:
1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?
We are not told about them in the bible. Our only instrction is to preach the Gospel (The good news of slavation through Christ) and make disciples of all nations

[BIBLE]Mt 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[/BIBLE]

AhmadRaw said:
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?
  1. Prayer- which is talking to and listening to God
  2. Worship- which is telling of our love of God- or literlaa proclaiming God's worth
  3. Service- which we act out our love for God
  4. Charity- in which we reflect God's love to others
  5. Study and engagement in scripture- in which we hear the story of how God created and saved the world and explains His will to us.
AhmadRaw said:
3- can you open the bible to read.
Yes. But systematic study and consideration of the context of verses and passages may assist greatly with our understanding.
AhmadRaw said:
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.
Both.

[BIBLE]Jn 8:19 Then they asked him, "Where is your father?"
"You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also." [/BIBLE]
[BIBLE]
Jn 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
Jn 10:30 I and the Father are one."
[/BIBLE]

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5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.
Angels are a complex topic. No two ever seem to be the same. They can apear to be like ordinary men of figures of blazing light.

They seem to have a function however and that is to be a mesenger from God.

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6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?
Works do not save. That does not mean they are not worthwhile in this present life- for they are what God designed us to do.

[BIBLE]Eph 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— Eph 2:9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
[/BIBLE]

[BIBLE]Ro 11:5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. [/BIBLE]

The letter to the Romans explains the doctrine of Grace and our need to be saved through grace more fully. It is a great book to begin systamatic study.









AhmadRaw said:
I'm sorry if i botherd anyone.
and thank you very much.
:)
You are most welcome :)
 
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The Midge said:
We are not told about them in the bible. Our only instrction is to preach the Gospel (The good news of slavation through Christ) and make disciples of all nations

Ahemmm... actually the Bible tells us that Jesus came only for the Jews.

But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

Mt 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Considering that the earliest manuscripts before the 4th century does not have the verse as stated above. Pls see http://www.godglorified.com/matthew_2819.htm
    1. Prayer- which is talking to and listening to God
    2. Worship- which is telling of our love of God- or literlaa proclaiming God's worth
    3. Service- which we act out our love for God
    4. Charity- in which we reflect God's love to others
    5. Study and engagement in scripture- in which we hear the story of how God created and saved the world and explains His will to us.
Faith and good works both play a part.



Yes. But systematic study and consideration of the context of verses and passages may assist greatly with our understanding.
Both.
Interesting when we talk of 'context' we mean context, not selection of one or two isloated verses to prove a point. See below.

[BIBLE]Jn 8:19 Then they asked him, "Where is your father?"
"You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also." [/BIBLE]
[BIBLE]
Jn 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
Jn 10:30 I and the Father are one."
[/BIBLE]

20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be ONE, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be ONE in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. (John 17:20-21)

The Greek word [hen] is used in both John 10:38 and John 17:21.

Jews who read this need not interprete this to mean divinity but ONEness in agreement, unity in purpose.
 
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Islam_mulia said:
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be ONE, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be ONE in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. (John 17:20-21)

The Greek word [hen] is used in both John 10:38 and John 17:21.

Jews who read this need not interprete this to mean divinity but ONEness in agreement, unity in purpose.

ONEness in agreement, unity in purpose, yes, but more than that. Christ is divine, He is worshipped, He is without beginning or end and there is only one God.

Attributes.

The names of God may not be incommunicable, and the application of them might possibly be ambiguous therefore; but when we see the incommunicable attributes of God given to Jesus Christ, they compose a more irresistible proof that He is very God. This is especially strong when those qualities which God reserves to Himself alone, are ascribed to Jesus Christ. We find, then: Eternity clearly ascribed to Christ in Psalm 102:26, as interpreted in Hebrews 1:11, 12; Proverbs 8:23, and so on. Isaiah 9:6; Micah 5:2; John 1:2; 1 John 1:2; Revelation 1:7, 8, 17; 3:14; 22:13; and the last three employ the very phraseology in which God asserts His eternity in Isaiah 13:10, and 44:6.

Immutability, the kindred attribute, and necessary corollary of eternity (Ps. 102:26, as before; Heb. 13:8).

Immensity and omnipresence (Matt. 28:20; 28:20; John 3:13; Col. 1:17).

Omniscience (Mark 11:27; John 2:24, 25; Heb. 4:12, 13; Luke 6:8; John 16:30; 21:17; Rev. 2:23, compared with 1 Kings 8:39; Jer. 17:10). Here Christ knows the most inscrutable of all Beings, God Himself; and the human heart, which God claims it as His peculiar power to fathom.

Sovereignty and power (John 5:17; Matt. 28:18, Heb. 1:3; Rev. 1:8; 11:15–17; Col. 2:9; 1:19). The last subdivision will suggest the next head of argument, that from His divine works. But upon the whole, it may be remarked that these ascriptions of divine attributes to Christ leave no evasion. For it is in the nature of things simply impossible that a finite nature should receive infinite endowments. Even Omnipotence cannot make a part to contain the whole.

Works.

Divine works are ascribed to Christ. Hill, with an affectation of philosophic fairness, which he sometimes carries to an unnecessary length, seems to yield the point to the Arians, in part: that as God has endued His different orders of creatures with degrees of power so exceedingly various, He may have given to this exalted creature powers which, to man, appear actually boundless; and that even the proposition, that God might enable him to create a world, by filling him with His mighty power, does not appear necessarily absurd. But it seems clear, that there is a limit plain and distinct between those things which finite and dependent power can, by a vast extension, be enabled to do, and those for which all measures of created power are alike incompetent. There are many things which are superhuman, which perhaps are not super-angelic. Satan may perhaps have power to move an atmospheric storm, before which man and his mightiest works would be as stubble. But Satan is as unable to create a fly out of nothing, as is man. For the performance of this kind of works, by deputation, no increase of finite power can prepare a creature. Moreover, to create a world such as ours, to direct it by a controlling providence, to judge its rational inhabitants, so as to apportion to every man according to his works; all this implies the possession of omnipresence, infinite knowledge, memory, and attention, as impossible for a creature to exercise, as infinite power. But, however, this may be, Scripture always ascribes creation to God as a divine work. This is done, first, in many express passages (Jer. 10:10-12; Ps. 95:4; Rev. 4:10, 11); and second, by all those passages (Ps. 19:1-7), in which we are directed to read the greatness and character of God in the works of creation. If He used some other rational agent in the work, why is Creator so emphatically His title? And why are we so often referred to His works to learn His attributes? And once more, the most noted passages (John 1:1–3), in which creation is ascribed to the Son, contain most emphatic assertions of His partaking of the divine essence; so that it is plain the divinity of the work was in the writer’s mind.

The space allotted to this argument will forbid my going into the Socinian evasions of the several texts, tortuous and varied as they are. The most important of them may be seen handled with great skill by Dr. Hill, Bk. iii, ch. 3 and 4. But we clearly find the following divine works ascribed to Jesus Christ: Creation of the world (Prov. 8:23, 27, and so on.; John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17; Heb. 1:1, 3, 10). And along with this, may be mentioned his sustentation of all things, asserted in the same passages.

Miracles, performed, not by deputed, but by autocratic power (John 5:21; 6:40; Acts 4:7, 10; 9:34; cf. John 5:36; Mark 2:8-11; John 2:19; 10:18; Rom. 1:4).

Forgiving sin (Mark 2:10).

Judging men and angels (Matt. 25:31, 32; 2 Cor. 5:10; Rom. 14:10; Acts 17:31; John 5:22). True, it is said that the Twelve shall sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel (Matt. 14:28), and that the saints shall judge angels; but other Scriptures explain this, that they shall be merely assessors of Jesus Christ.

Worship.

Finally. The peculiar worship of God is given to Christ (Matt. 28:19; Luke 24:52; John 5:23; Acts 7:59, 60; John 14:1; and Ps. 12 compared with Jer. 17:5; Acts 10:25, 26; 1 Cor. 1; Phil. 2:10; Heb. 1:6; Rev. 1:5, 6; 7:10; 5:13).

In connection, weigh these passages, as showing how unlikely the Scripture would be to permit such worship, (or Christ Himself), if He were not proper God (Isa. 13:8; Matt. 4:16; or Luke 4:8; Mark 12:29; Acts 14:14, 15; Rev. 19:10; 22:9). Remember that the great object of Scripture is to reclaim the world from idolatry.


http://www.pbministries.org/R. L. Dabney/Systematic Theology/chapter14.htm
 
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AhmadRaw said:
1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?

I think this depends on how they relate to God, and not necessarily on whether or not they use that word.

2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?

Prayer seems to be the best, and I am not sure what all the others might be.

3- can you open the bible to read.

I do not understand what you mean by this.

4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.

I think both.

5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.

I don't know.

6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

Yes.

[bible]Matthew 25:31-46[/bible]
 
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1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?

I think that people will be judged by their works. Those who seek after good will be rewarded with good. Those who don't will be given understanding of what they have done and will realize sadly what they've missed out on.

2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?

I think it is easy to communicate with God. God is everywhere. Just talk whether silently or openly or in feeling, God knows what you mean.

3- can you open the bible to read.

I am confused by what you mean.

4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.

Many people were called the 'son of God.' Some christians believe that Jesus 'is' God. You should ask God what he thinks because I am but a man. Even Jesus said that God alone is good.

5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.

They are the messangers of God. They protect people, tell them of God's news, sing the praise of God. What else they do I don't know.

6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

Charity is always useful even unto eternity. Belief has nothing to do with it... a pure heart and good works will will be rewarded with rewards which no one can take away.
 
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If you want honest answers to honest questions fine- but please try not to make it into a fight
Islam_mulia said:
Ahemmm... actually the Bible tells us that Jesus came only for the Jews.

But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

This is what I mean by context: (BTW Canaanite is no Jew- Arab even ;) )
[BIBLE]21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."


23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."

24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.

26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table." 28Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

[/BIBLE] Why do you think Jesus helped her? Note how Jesus actions go completely against the prevailing view of the Jewish people that Jesus states in Vs 24.

Islam_mulia said:
Considering that the earliest manuscripts before the 4th century does not have the verse as stated above. Pls see http://www.godglorified.com/matthew_2819.htm
Faith and good works both play a part.



That looks like a KJV only web site out to prove that that particular translation is the only one we should use. I would not rely on it as a source of relyable scholarship. One of the perils of the internet I'm afraid.

Islam_mulia said:
Interesting when we talk of 'context' we mean context, not selection of one or two isloated verses to prove a point. See below.


Yes see above.

Islam_mulia said:
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be ONE, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be ONE in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. (John 17:20-21)
Islam_mulia said:
The Greek word [hen] is used in both John 10:38 and John 17:21.


This is not anti Jesus as divine is it?

I don't have access to a Commentry/ lexion just now. What are you suggesting this means? The same word can mean different things in differnt contexts.
e.g. To read a book or to book a ticket.

Islam_mulia said:
Jews who read this need not interprete this to mean divinity but ONEness in agreement, unity in purpose.
The Gospels were written in Greek for the Gentiles. That includes Arabs and any one else who is not for the Jew. Jesus healed the forign ocupying Centurian's daughter, drove out those who exploited forigners from the temple, and what must be important to you fulfilled the Abrahimic covenant that Isreal would be a blessing for all nations.

Jesus could never be just for the Jew for the mission of God to all peoples was stated imprically at the very foundation of the nation.
For every verse you can pull out of context to suggest Jesus was not God I could find 5 outlining Trinitarian/ devine human duality of Christ. In context.
 
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The Midge said:
If you want honest answers to honest questions fine- but please try not to make it into a fight.

I promise. I have no intention of fighting against you or anyone else here.

This is what I mean by context: (BTW Canaanite is no Jew- Arab even ;) )

21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.

22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."

23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."

24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.

26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table." 28Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

Why do you think Jesus helped her? Note how Jesus actions go completely against the prevailing view of the Jewish people that Jesus states in Vs 24.

I believed Jesus helped the Canaanite woman out of pity. After all, that poor woman was kneeling to him for help. However, this does not overide his mission for he was sent only to the people of lost sheep of the house of Israel. See also:

These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, 6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 10:5-6)
It would also be strange if Jesus were to preach to non-Jews and yet referred to them metaphorically as 'dogs'.

That looks like a KJV only web site out to prove that that particular translation is the only one we should use. I would not rely on it as a source of relyable scholarship. One of the perils of the internet I'm afraid.

I think many other translations have that wordings. The issue is that the earliest manuscripts do not have that wordings.

This is not anti Jesus as divine is it?

I don't have access to a Commentry/ lexion just now. What are you suggesting this means? The same word can mean different things in differnt contexts.
e.g. To read a book or to book a ticket.

It means ONEness in agreement, unity in purpose. If we are talking about reading in proper context, then you should consider John 10:30 and John 17:21 together.

The Gospels were written in Greek for the Gentiles. That includes Arabs and any one else who is not for the Jew. Jesus healed the forign ocupying Centurian's daughter, drove out those who exploited forigners from the temple, and what must be important to you fulfilled the Abrahimic covenant that Isreal would be a blessing for all nations.

But the Bible states that Jesus was preaching the gospel before the Bible said he was crucified. The gospel (not the gospels 'according' to Mk, mt, Lk, Jn) was preached by Jesus in his lifetime. There is no evidence that Jesus spoke Greek. Hence, the original gospel was spoken in the dialect of Jesus and his people (and not Greek).

Jesus could never be just for the Jew for the mission of God to all peoples was stated imprically at the very foundation of the nation.
For every verse you can pull out of context to suggest Jesus was not God I could find 5 outlining Trinitarian/ devine human duality of Christ. In context

Let the readers see who is quoting out of context. Please take note that I accept your challenge but I would like to state that I would be more interested to read the words possibly spoken by Jesus, not by Paul or other writers.

Thanks for being a friendly Christian.
 
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AhmadRaw said:
Hi
I want to ask christians some questions, I hope that someone till me the answers of them, and its good if you can specify the verse that has the answer, but its not necessary:

1- what do you think about the people that don't know or hear about christianity, or it been introduced to them by negative way, or the children of the other religions who dead, where will they go?
2- what are the ways to communicate with God. and what is the best?
3- can you open the bible to read.
4- is the Jesus God's son, or the God.
5- are there angels, if so, what is their role.
6- is the charity usefull in the eternity life, if you don't believe that jesus is God?

choose any question of them, i just want to know the answer from any christian.

I'm sorry if i botherd anyone.
and thank you very much.
:)
I'm not a kind Christian, so I can't answer you :)
 
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