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IDF soldiers used 80 year old man as human shield

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Israeli soldiers used 80-year-old Gazan as human shield, then killed him

Israeli soldiers used an 80-year-old Gazan as a human shield. Then they killed him​


Soldiers put an explosive cord around the man's neck and forced him to scout buildings for eight hours. After his release, another division shot him dead​

A senior officer in the Israeli army’s Nahal Brigade tied an explosive cord around the neck of an 80-year-old Palestinian man and forced him to serve as a human shield, ordering him to scout out abandoned houses under threat of having his head blown off. After he had served this purpose, the soldiers ordered the man to flee with his wife, but upon being spotted by another battalion they were both shot dead on the spot.


Soldiers present at the scene told the Israeli investigative outlet The Hottest Place in Hell that this incident took place in May in the Zeitoun neighborhood of Gaza City. While conducting a sweep of houses in the area, soldiers came across the elderly couple in their home, who told Arabic-speaking soldiers that they were unable to flee to southern Gaza due to their mobility difficulties; their children had already left, and the man needed a cane to walk.
Sadly it could be the case that some on this forum think these soldiers should be regarded as heroes for this heinous crime; others will seek ways to defend their actions - maybe along the lines of war is hell etc. Let's see what verbal gymnastics they come up with.
 

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Oh yeah I'd forgotten the try to undermine the source trick. The original source was the IDF soldiers who spoke to Hamakom Hachi Ham Bagehinom (“The Hottest Place in Hell”) website. Afaik the account has not been successfully refuted by the IDF. So maybe in this case "leftist" means prepared to publish inconvenient truths rather than suppress them as logically a rightist news source would.
 
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Oh yeah I'd forgotten the try to undermine the source trick. The original source was the IDF soldiers who spoke to Hamakom Hachi Ham Bagehinom (“The Hottest Place in Hell”) website. Afaik the account has not been successfully refuted by the IDF. So maybe in this case "leftist" means prepared to publish inconvenient truths rather than suppress them as logically a rightist news source would.

Explaining the news source bias and their intended consumers isn't a trick.
 
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The correct word is alleging, not explaining. Someone who labels themself with "Judaism" may be biased, don't you think. Where is the IDF refutation of this?

I don't see where someone is labeled with Judaism, I was born into it, stopped practicing in 2019 when my son died, and have been happily Catholic since 2023. I am not a fan boy of Israel or Hamas.
 
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I don't see where someone is labeled with Judaism, I was born into it, stopped practicing in 2019 when my son died, and have been happily Catholic since 2023. I am not a fan boy of Israel or Hamas.
You:
"I suppose, from the Leftist view, it's either be moved or be genocided. At least being in Egypt the bad bad Israelis won't be able to indiscriminately kill them for no reason."
Two things this tells us - an overuse of words like leftist, and a grotesque downplaying of killing large numbers of people indiscriminately for no reason.
 
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