Identifying Orthodoxy

[Oblio]

Thank you.

...and I thought Protestant denominationalism was confusing!!!

The difference of course is the substance of the confusion (that being the anomaly of our immigrant culture and the Bolshevik revolution). I can (and have) walked into an ACROD (or Greek, or Russian, or Romanian ...) parish and feel completely at home. I know that we believe exactly the same thing. Theologically, there is no confusion or deviation.

 

[Dust and Ashes]

The difference of course is the substance of the confusion (that being the anomaly of our immigrant culture and the Bolshevik revolution). I can (and have) walked into am ACROD (or Greek, or Russian, or Romanian ...) parish and feel completely at home. I know that we believe exactly the same thing. Theologically, there is no confusion or deviation.

I know it blows my mind to think about this. We could walk into an Orthodox Church anywhere on earth and the language and culture might be different but the faith is exactly the same. Wow...

 

[ClementofRome]

The difference of course is the substance of the confusion (that being the anomaly of our immigrant culture and the Bolshevik revolution). I can (and have) walked into am ACROD (or Greek, or Russian, or Romanian ...) parish and feel completely at home. I know that we believe exactly the same thing. Theologically, there is no confusion or deviation.

Yes, I understand that this is the difference. With Protestant denominationalism, there is a WIDE variation of belief. It is sad actually.

I was just making fun of the admission that there is some confusion, esp for us who are not familiar, in the EO traditions!

BTW, love your T-shirt in your pic! We should discuss that some time.

 

[MariaRegina]

No, I'm an Orthodox Christian actually

If you mean the Orthodox body I belong, it's the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia. At the moment, I live in a monastery of the TOC in Greece which is in communion with my own ROCOR. I'm a permanent guest here! LOL And yes, I'm an Old-Calanderist.

Dear Father,

Father bless!

I just read your profile, and noticed that you are a hieromonk.

CF has a policy where users who are priests can have a "P" placed immediately after their user name. Of course, I think that is optional, and that ad may not be desired if you don't want to offer pastoral information.

We used to have an Antiochian Priest who would visit CF occasionally. His name is Father Gregory, but I haven't 'seen' him post at CF in a while.

Respectfully in Christ,
Elizabeth

 

[Torah613]

I too have met several clerics from this group. I have in fact heard Mother Lynn Walker deliver the "charge" to a newly ordained monk and she is one heck of a powerful speaker!

I thought it odd that the two "modern" saints listed in their website were gay men.

I do not want to be a judge as I am not Orthodox, but the DL that I attended with the OCCA bunch was beautiful.

This is all very interesting. Thank you for sharing with me.

If I may be so bold, where was it that you attended their services?

I am more familiar with the midwestern bunch in particular "bp" ed and "fr." Richard. Those that I have met there are some of hte nicest, sweetest people I've met. But, religiously speaking, their a cracking bunch of loonies.

Joe Zollars

 

[Gnisios]

Dear Father,

Father bless!

I just read your profile, and noticed that you are a hieromonk.

CF has a policy where users who are priests can have a "P" placed immediately after their user name. Of course, I think that is optional, and that ad may not be desired if you don't want to offer pastoral information.

We used to have an Antiochian Priest who would visit CF occasionally. His name is Father Gregory, but I haven't 'seen' him post at CF in a while.

Respectfully in Christ,
Elizabeth

Thank you sister. Your blessing too.

I don't know much about the CF policy on Priests but I don't really mind. What I'm looking for is fellowship and communion with other Orthodox believers around the world. Soon I won't be able to log in so often due to the 'heavy' schedule of the Monastery but I'm glad I made some friends already. I feel blessed, encouraged and renewed.

PS: Please call me 'brother'.

 

[Prawnik]

I thought it odd that the two "modern" saints listed in their website were gay men.

I suspect that this was part of the point, especially in light of the fact that this church seems intent on underscoring the gayness of the men in question.

"Look how inclusive we are! Look how enlightened, how un-institutional!"

 

[Gnisios]

Brothers and sisters, there are many Churches like that out there. I'm not surprised anymore. Even they use terms like catholic and orthodox in a wider sense, they still don't meet the standard requirements.

 

[ClementofRome]

If I may be so bold, where was it that you attended their services?

I am more familiar with the midwestern bunch in particular "bp" ed and "fr." Richard. Those that I have met there are some of hte nicest, sweetest people I've met. But, religiously speaking, their a cracking bunch of loonies.

Joe Zollars

Certainly, Mother Lynn Walker came down from NYC and Bishop F. Vincent Cuestas came from whereever he is located to preside over an ordination (is this the correct word?) of a priest, a monk and serveral readers and the like. The service was held in the chapel of a large United Methodist Church in Greenville, SC.....this would have been in March of last year I believe. It was my understanding that the local OCCA chapel was not large enough to seat all who would be in attendance , so they borrowed the chapel frorm the Methodists.

How I got invited to this event is another story all together, but the choir from the college where I teach was asked to come and sing /chant the DL (again, I apologize if I have not correctly stated things). I accompanied the choir. This was my first exposure to a DL .

Agreed, they were a lovely and beautiful bunch of people. At the time, I had no idea about their theology or "inclusiveness."

 

[David65]

Update:
I visited St. John Chrysostom last Wednesday for the Pre-sanctified Liturgy. The people, and the service, were amazing. I'm expecting to be back again once my business travel permits. Thanks to all and to God.

 

[eoe]

I visited St. John Chrysostom last Wednesday for the Pre-sanctified Liturgy. The people, and the service, were amazing. I'm expecting to be back again once my business travel permits. Thanks to all and to God.

Wonderful news! I hope that you get to see a "normal" Liturgy soon.

 

[Xpycoctomos]

Thank you.

...and I thought Protestant denominationalism was confusing!!!

Yeah, welcome to our mess. It's our dirty little secret lol

The difference of course is the substance of the confusion (that being the anomaly of our immigrant culture and the Bolshevik revolution). I can (and have) walked into an ACROD (or Greek, or Russian, or Romanian ...) parish and feel completely at home. I know that we believe exactly the same thing. Theologically, there is no confusion or deviation.

This is important to point out. it may be a mess (and really.. it is.. a huge mess) but I'd rather have confusing (and un-cabnonical) jurisdictional lines than not being sure if this Church beleives the same as I.

 

[Xpycoctomos]

I too have met several clerics from this group. I have in fact heard Mother Lynn Walker deliver the "charge" to a newly ordained monk and she is one heck of a powerful speaker!

I thought it odd that the two "modern" saints listed in their website were gay men.

yikes scooby!