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tigersnare said:
You're preaching to the choir sister, I am investigating the Catholic faith for myself, I might convert, I might not, either way, I'm still a Christian, and so are the people whom are on the other side of my decision.
hi tigarsnare . .you know you are always welcome in OBOB - don't ever hesitate to ask questions . . whether or not you would convert, we are very happy to answer questions you, or anyone else who is trying to understand Catholicism better, might have.

Peace in Him!
 
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You are gracious and kind.



Thank You.
 
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Well said, Polycarp.


Another good point.

I haven't read the formal debates, personally, because, no matter how stongly I may argue a particular position, I prefer not to put myself in a position where I am required to defend it, and can't think about new ideas and maybe change my mind.

To me, the saddest part about a formal debate is its polarizing effect. Take one side or another, but no room for the open-minded just to discuss and dialogue.
 
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Crazy Liz said:
To me, the saddest part about a formal debate is its polarizing effect. Take one side or another, but no room for the open-minded just to discuss and dialogue.
There is a Non-Participant Commentary forum for those who wish to discuss what is happening in the Formal Debate Forum. Of course, this forum is probably open to abuse and same foul-mouthing that IDD suffered from, but at least it is limited to non-participants of formal debates and particular subject matter (ie: what's going on in the formal debate).
 
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nyj said:
Posting ad nauseum in IDD was, IMO, a useless activity.
And there I would agree.

It wasn't the lack of correct conduct that I was worried about, but the idea that formal debates will naturally make the participants more reasonable.

In any case, thanks for your thoughts and your time,
~Matt
 
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I too am sadden that the IDD was closed. It takes great Christian maturity to have vigorous discussion with those who do not hold your viewpoint. You had better be able to explain your faith clearly and effectively. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but not every poster has arrived at that level of knowledge and compassion for those not at your level. That is where it can get sticky and the fruit of Holy Spirit must be made to those less mature posters.

I must confess all, I do think I might have been the catlyst for the closing of that forum.

I do my very best to "know my stuff" and attempt to say the truth in love. However, I have not reached perfection and all believers have bouts of carnality. We are sinners saved soley by the grace of God. How awesome is He!!!
 
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I think closing IDD was probably a good idea overall. Those who wish to engage in formal debates can do so. I don't have the time or the inclination to pursue them and, in fact, I had already given up IDD itself for those very reasons.

In IDD the argument usually went to those with the most time on their hands to camp out on the internet, and not because they were right, but through sheer volume of posts.

As I said before, I had already given up IDD because I lacked the time and motivation to pursue it; but there was another consideration, as well: IDD made me angry. I don't like that feeling. It wasn't doing me any good spiritually, and it wasn't doing anyone else any good either.

So, from my POV, good riddance to IDD!
 
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nyj said:
No offense but... I doubt it.
I generally tend to ignore you, and for good reason. But in this case, I will make an exception. The closing of IDD and what I taught is called cause and effect. It may have not been the entire rationale, but certainly a part of it. It is no accident.
 
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Well . . I have to agree with nyj . . . . it was just bad timing . .

Erwin had already made up his mind and it was voted on by the mods long before you started your thread . .




Peace in Him!
 
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