ICE Arrests Palestinian Ringleader of Anti-Israel Columbia Protests

[essentialsaltes]

More neutral coverage from AP:

He faced sanctions for potentially helping to organize an “unauthorized marching event” in which participants glorified Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack and playing a “substantial role” in the circulation of social media posts criticizing Zionism, among other acts of alleged discrimination.

 

[essentialsaltes]

While the State Department can rescind visas, it was unclear what legal authority the Trump administration would use to revoke green cards, as Rubio said. Green-card holders are one step below U.S. citizens and revoking their residency typically requires a hearing before an immigration judge.

The Trump administration, however, has sought to use its executive power more broadly to deport people it deems a threat to the United States. “The implications of this thing are big,” said David Leopold, an Ohio immigration lawyer. “If you take someone like this, what’s the next step? Is it somebody who is protesting for immigration reform? Is it somebody who is protesting climate or abortion?”

 

[JosephZ]

What/who was he threatening then?

I don't find his statement to be a threat to the safety and well-being of anyone or anything, except maybe Columbia's bottom line.

“As long as Columbia continues to invest and to benefit from Israeli apartheid, the students will continue to resist... not only protests and encampments, the limit is the sky.”

Do you really feel that the above statement is enough for a person to be detained and incarcerated in the United States?

 

[Laodicean60]

but supporting Palestinians does not mean that one supports Hamas

Didn't the Palestinians vote for the Hamas terrorist group to run their country? We all know the position of Hamas towards Israel just by the number of attacks in history.

 

[Desk trauma]

Didn't the Palestinians vote for the Hamas terrorist group to run their country?

They won an election in 2006, no more were held since then.

 

[JosephZ]

Didn't the Palestinians vote for the Hamas terrorist group to run their country?

Hamas forced its rule on the people of Gaza outside of the political process.

 

[Laodicean60]

They won an election in 2006, no more were held since then.

Is this Israel's fault? It seems Israel is doing them a favor by trying to eradicate Hamas. Maybe the Palestinians are tired of their place being retaliated against because of Hamas.

 

[Desk trauma]

Is this Israel's fault? It seems Israel is doing them a favor by trying to eradicate Hamas. Maybe the Palestinians are tired of their place being retaliated against because of Hamas.

How is any of this relevant to the topic?

 

[ozso]

I don't find his statement to be a threat to the safety and well-being of anyone or anything, except maybe Columbia's bottom line.

“As long as Columbia continues to invest and to benefit from Israeli apartheid, the students will continue to resist... not only protests and encampments, the limit is the sky.”

Do you really feel that the above statement is enough for a person to be detained and incarcerated in the United States?

Based on his status and activities which he threatened to escalate without limit, yes.

 

[ozso]

Where do you get that he is either of those things? Pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel for sure, but supporting Palestinians does not mean that one supports Hamas, nor does opposing Israel's actions in Palestine make one an antisemite.

Here's an update:

McLaughlin signaled the arrest was directly connected to Khalil’s role in the protests, alleging he “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.”

https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8

 

[Laodicean60]

They won an election in 2006, no more were held since then.

Is this Israel's fault? It seems Israel is doing them a favor by trying to eradicate Hamas. Maybe the Palestinians are tired of their place being retaliated against because of Hamas.

How is any of this relevant to the topic?

Because you brought it up.

 

[Desk trauma]

Because you brought it up.

I brought it up by answering the question you asked?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Here's an update:

McLaughlin signaled the arrest was directly connected to Khalil’s role in the protests, alleging he “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.”

https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8

That's such a vague allegation as to be completely useless. What "activities aligned to Hamas" did he lead?

 

[Laodicean60]

I brought it up by answering the question you asked?

Ok lol.

 

[JosephZ]

Here's an update:

McLaughlin signaled the arrest was directly connected to Khalil’s role in the protests, alleging he “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.”

https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8

That is the allegation coming from Department of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin

al·lege
verb
gerund or present participle: alleging
claim or assert that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically without proof that this is the case.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Ok lol.

I asked how being pro-Palestinian makes someone pro-Hamas. You asked, in reply, whether Palestinians voted for Hamas - the implication being that, because Palestinians voted for Hamas, supporting Palestinians means someone is supporting Hamas.

However, because Gaza last had an election in 2006 (19 years ago), that doesn't really follow. Heck, about 2/3 of Gaza's current voting-age population wasn't even eligible to vote at the time (Source).

 

[Belk]

Is making threats against the safety and well-being of others, protected by the first amendment?

Depends on the threats. If I say "I think all Russians should die in a fire" that is indeed protected free speech. Why? Do you have evidence this individual was making threats? It sure is not mentioned in the news article.

 

[essentialsaltes]

That is the allegation coming from Department of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin

Will it be tried in a court?

 

[Laodicean60]

I asked how being pro-Palestinian makes someone pro-Hamas.

However, because Gaza last had an election in 2006 (19 years ago), that doesn't really follow. Heck, about 2/3 of Gaza's current voting-age population wasn't even eligible to vote at the time (Source).

Because they've accepted their terrorist government for 19 years. You answered your question in the second paragraph. When the people rise against their terrorist government, it is the day of peace. To be pro-Palestinian means anti-Israel.

Some recognise this, which gives me hope..

Abeer, who asked to be identified only by her first name, is currently sheltering in the Nusseirat refugee camp in central Gaza. Ten months into the war, with new cease-fire talks underway in Doha and Cairo, it is hard for Palestinians like her to know who or what to believe anymore.

"People are just very tired, exhausted and fed up with this reality. They are just hoping that the war will end and that they will announce a cease-fire," she said.

"There is wider criticism of Hamas, in the streets, in tents and on social media, and there are several reasons for this," journalist Fathi Sabbah told DW via voice message from Khan Younis. "The war has lasted much longer than expected and people can no longer bear the burden of the war and its devastating consequences, such as daily lack of water and electricity, high prices, lack of income and cash flow problems."

Has Palestinians' perception of Hamas changed? – DW – 08/23/2024

Ten months into the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza, criticism on the street of the militant group Hamas appears to be growing. But gauging public opinion during a war is difficult.

www.dw.com

 

[ozso]

That is the allegation coming from Department of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin

al·lege
verb
gerund or present participle: alleging
claim or assert that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically without proof that this is the case.

Jeffrey Dahmer was called an alleged serial killer at first. Alleged often means we know he's guilty but we can't say so yet.