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IAEA: Iran Defying Call to Stop Enrichment

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The IAEA, after over 3 years effort seeking clarity, still has huge knowledge gaps in Iranian neuclear programs. Today, not only are they refusing to suspend opperations until this whole thing is sorted out, they're accelerating the process! :eek:

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00182504.html
 

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TheBear said:
The IAEA, after over 3 years effort seeking clarity, still has huge knowledge gaps in Iranian neuclear programs. Today, not only are they refusing to suspend opperations until this whole thing is sorted out, they're accelerating the process! :eek:

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00182504.html
I am still counting on the number of resolutions the UN will pass on Iran. It will be interesting to see the credibility of the beloved UN that the liberals love so much.
 
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Thanks for the article! Now I can sleep better at night :doh: ;)

In all seriousness, Iran's leaders seem to be a loaded gun. At least to me that is. Everyone gets their boxers in a bunch over other things, but I'm paying close attention to what's going on with Iran's attitude/intentions towards Israel.

Dang but you've got a lot of posts D'Bear - how long have you been here? Sheesh! :cool:


I am still counting on the number of resolutions the UN will pass on Iran. It will be interesting to see the credibility of the beloved UN that the liberals love so much.

And lets not gloss over China and Russia. How predictable is that one. **rolleyes**
 
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They have the right to nuclear energy. Have they broken the NPT?

1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of this Treaty.

2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also cooperate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.

Nations that are NOT signatories and developed their program in secret are what people should be worrying about.
 
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jsn112 said:
I am still counting on the number of resolutions the UN will pass on Iran. It will be interesting to see the credibility of the beloved UN that the liberals love so much.

Why? What about other countries that defy UN resolutions? Should we attack every country that does this?
 
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fraulinekitty said:
Thanks for the article! Now I can sleep better at night :doh: ;)
It's a craaazy world we live in. Wacky, I tell ya! :D

In all seriousness, Iran's leaders seem to be a loaded gun. At least to me that is. Everyone gets their boxers in a bunch over other things, but I'm paying close attention to what's going on with Iran's attitude/intentions towards Israel.
I tend to agree. I also see major problems beyond just Israel. If Iran goes nuke, (weapons-wise), the global economy would be greatly impacted.

Dang but you've got a lot of posts D'Bear - how long have you been here? Sheesh! :cool:
Almost 4 1/2 years! :wave:
 
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CCGirl said:
Nations that are NOT signatories and developed their program in secret are what people should be worrying about.
Actually I would worry more about countries that have people that are oblivious to the threat of reality and thinking everything will be fine. Those countries are usually are the first to go down first and really hard. They think if you ally with the devil, maybe the devil will spare them. Look at France in WWII.
Why? What about other countries that defy UN resolutions? Should we attack every country that does this?
Your logic is if everyone signs that piece of paper then they can go ahead and have nukes. That's crazy because there are over 180 countries signed that. Do you really feel safe if all of those 180+ countries can have nukes as long as they sign that worthless piece of paper? So that piece of paper is the protection from being destroyed by nukes? If a piece of paper is that industructable, then I have been living lie all these years. I should use it as shield of something. Maybe our soldiers should wear that as protection in Iraq from flying bullets and missiles. I think you should patent that and profit from it. C'mon, get real here.
 
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It will be interesting to see the credibility of the beloved UN that the liberals love so much.

Since when do I love the UN?

Your logic is if everyone signs that piece of paper then they can go ahead and have nukes.

No, no, no. The NPT says you CAN'T have nukes if you don't already possess them, and no one can help you develop them. So if you sign it, you are not supposed to develop nuclear weapons, or you are in violation of the treaty. Countries who haven't signed it (Israel, India, Pakistan), or have removed themselves from it (north korea), are a very significant threat, as they have snubbed the international community, and blantantly declared that they will develop nukes.

While this in itself is alarming, a country breaking the NPT (which also sets up regulations for nuclear power development), basically opens itself up to military conflict without much debate. Iran is treading the edge of the NPT, and if they cross it (or have crossed it), there is an extremely good chance the majority of the world will come down on them hard. Even if the countries of the UN themselves don't participate in the military action, they will certain allow us to tear them apart.

While I currently think an invasion of Iran would be unnecessary, I can certainly see air strikes against them being fully validated if they do not co-operate. Honestly, the administration is doing a pretty good job sticking to diplomacy with Iran (maybe they are actually learning something), but patience with this country, which EVERYONE can see as a potential threat, will expire sooner or later, unless they come into line with NPT guidelines.
 
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Vylo said:
Since when do I love the UN?



No, no, no. The NPT says you CAN'T have nukes if you don't already possess them, and no one can help you develop them. So if you sign it, you are not supposed to develop nuclear weapons, or you are in violation of the treaty. Countries who haven't signed it (Israel, India, Pakistan), or have removed themselves from it (north korea), are a very significant threat, as they have snubbed the international community, and blantantly declared that they will develop nukes.

While this in itself is alarming, a country breaking the NPT (which also sets up regulations for nuclear power development), basically opens itself up to military conflict without much debate. Iran is treading the edge of the NPT, and if they cross it (or have crossed it), there is an extremely good chance the majority of the world will come down on them hard. Even if the countries of the UN themselves don't participate in the military action, they will certain allow us to tear them apart.

While I currently think an invasion of Iran would be unnecessary, I can certainly see air strikes against them being fully validated if they do not co-operate. Honestly, the administration is doing a pretty good job sticking to diplomacy with Iran (maybe they are actually learning something), but patience with this country, which EVERYONE can see as a potential threat, will expire sooner or later, unless they come into line with NPT guidelines.

Vylo, as a liberal, you have too much sense. Perhaps you are not a liberal, after all. Not an insult but a compliment :thumbsup: .
 
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Vylo said:
Since when do I love the UN?



No, no, no. The NPT says you CAN'T have nukes if you don't already possess them, and no one can help you develop them. So if you sign it, you are not supposed to develop nuclear weapons, or you are in violation of the treaty. Countries who haven't signed it (Israel, India, Pakistan), or have removed themselves from it (north korea), are a very significant threat, as they have snubbed the international community, and blantantly declared that they will develop nukes.

While this in itself is alarming, a country breaking the NPT (which also sets up regulations for nuclear power development), basically opens itself up to military conflict without much debate. Iran is treading the edge of the NPT, and if they cross it (or have crossed it), there is an extremely good chance the majority of the world will come down on them hard. Even if the countries of the UN themselves don't participate in the military action, they will certain allow us to tear them apart.

While I currently think an invasion of Iran would be unnecessary, I can certainly see air strikes against them being fully validated if they do not co-operate. Honestly, the administration is doing a pretty good job sticking to diplomacy with Iran (maybe they are actually learning something), but patience with this country, which EVERYONE can see as a potential threat, will expire sooner or later, unless they come into line with NPT guidelines.

Thank you for posting a clear understanding of the NPT.:)
 
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The Shah of Iran wants nuclear technology...the US gives it to him on a silver plater. The current government of Iran wants nuclear technology...the US wants to invade Iran.

I guess the grand ayatollahs' 'western-friendly' ratings have diminished. I also suppose this is a great effort to turn the American public from the fact that the US is involved in two wars, well...maybe one, that seem to have no end in sight. Oh, well, let's just stay focused on the real issue: an un-western friendly nation wants to have nuclear technology. Israel refuses to allow nuclear inspectors into their faciltiy...though they never signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty...wise of them.

The supreme leaders of Iran are not going to back down from this any time soon. I believe they want to tempt Israel into abiding by its 'non-nuclear Middle East' policy, and want to expose the United States' bizarre aliance with Israel.

Who cares, it is Israel? We have far more interesting problems to deal with within our borders, but yet a small strip of land half way around the world who is the leading manufacturer of fire arms, has the US government up in arms over their right to exist without nuclear neighbors.
 
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That little strip of land that you're referring to is what most believers pay attention to, because it really does dictate and formulate what is going to happen in the future. I don't ignore Israel - that little strip of land - because I firmly believe that is where God has and is defining history.

Be blessed - I've gotta get some sleep :)
 
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