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I wouldn't be surprised if the 7 years tribulation started in 2010.

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Based on Israel's taking back Jerusalem in 1967, we can see that the Jubilee year would be celebrated Wed. 12, October 2016, that is, on the day of Atonement-Yom Kippur. In the year of Jubilee, all of Israel's people return home and join with their family to take a break from labor and give thanks to God. All debts including slavery are annulled. Originally the counting didn't actually start at the time the Jews entered into the Land of Israel, but rather after they finished conquering the Land and after apportioning it to each family, which was 1288 BCE. Hence the couting from 1967 rather than when they first got it in the 40s.

In a Pre-wrath context, seven years from 2010-2017 (Roman Calendar matching the Hebrew, the Hebrew actually adjusted to be about 6006 total years today.) Would be a plausible fit for the tribulation period.

With so much tension at this time the birth pangs may come together expediently enough in the next few years.

Interesting thoughts though...:)
 

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JaimeMan said:
Based on Israel's taking back Jerusalem in 1967, we can see that the Jubilee year would be celebrated Wed. 12, October 2016, that is, on the day of Atonement-Yom Kippur. In the year of Jubilee, all of Israel's people return home and join with their family to take a break from labor and give thanks to God. All debts including slavery are annulled. Originally the counting didn't actually start at the time the Jews entered into the Land of Israel, but rather after they finished conquering the Land and after apportioning it to each family, which was 1288 BCE. Hence the couting from 1967 rather than when they first got it in the 40s.

In a Pre-wrath context, seven years from 2010-2017 (Roman Calendar matching the Hebrew, the Hebrew actually adjusted to be about 6006 total years today.) Would be a plausible fit for the tribulation period.

With so much tension at this time the birth pangs may come together expediently enough in the next few years.

Interesting thoughts though...:)

What 7yr tribulation?
 
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MbiaJc said:
What 7yr tribulation?

Its found in the book of daniel. He talks about 70 weeks, A week is 7 years. 69 of those weeks have already been fulfilled. The are huge books on this subject, so I cant explain it all in one post, plus I dont really understand it all myself.
 
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tel0004 said:
Its found in the book of daniel. He talks about 70 weeks, A week is 7 years. 69 of those weeks have already been fulfilled. The are huge books on this subject, so I cant explain it all in one post, plus I dont really understand it all myself.
Danials 70th week and the Abomination of desolation was complete between 66 Ad and 73 ad. The temple that jesus refered too in the Abomination of desolation was destroyed as prophasied in 70 ad. All that remains is a 3 1/2 year period of tribulation between the beast of the earth and the two witnesses of God. This kind of confusion develops from the difficulties in understanding the prophacies of danial and Jesus. Danials 70 weeks all refered to the jews they are complete,. Jesus was asked two questions when he answered his prophacies, the first was when would the temple be destoyed,( this is where he refered to danial) the second was when would he return, that he answered as after the times of the gentils.
 
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tel0004 said:
Its found in the book of daniel. He talks about 70 weeks, A week is 7 years. 69 of those weeks have already been fulfilled. The are huge books on this subject, so I cant explain it all in one post, plus I dont really understand it all myself.

All of Daniel's 70 wk. have been fulfilled.
 
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HowardDean said:
I've heard many differing timetables. You may be right; so may M.J. Agee. She keeps guessing each year.We shall see.
You've got to figure she got to get the crown for "loving His appearing". pax..kim;)
 
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Nahh... The millenium is after Jesus comes back...
Mathmatically it would make sense that his return is soon if you look at the millenium as a completion of a week.
6000 years of time on earth- Now we are almost or are living in the 7th Millenium. Jesus's return for 1000 years completes a 7 - 1000 year time frame.
bringing us into the 8th or "infinite" period of time with God.
Makes sense.
 
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MbiaJc said:
All of Daniel's 70 wk. have been fulfilled.
Hmm. I had heard that was the full preterist view. :eek:
 
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HowardDean said:
There is no proof of this, of course. Unless you are claiming a lot of the bible is wrong.

I guess there is, 69 of Daniels weeks was fulfilled before Jesus came the first time. The seventieth week started when He started His ministry. Three and a half years later, He was cut off from the land of the living. The rest of the week was used up at the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in 66.5-70AD.

There is 3.5 yrs. that has not been fulfilled of Nebuchadnezzar seventy years to rule over the nations. God put a yoke of iron on Israel and the other nations, that they should serve the king Neb. and his sons and sons, sons, for seventy years, before the yoke would be broken. They still like 3.5yr., to rule the nations.
This also will be the length of the Great Trib, the time of the Gentiles.
Nobody is claiming any of the Bible is wrong. Most Post tribers believe the book of Daniel has been fulfilled down to about V36 or 40 of chapter 11.
 
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applepowerpc said:
I think one can be partial preterist and still believe this.

Anyway, I don't think the infrastructure in chip implants worldwide exists yet, so I would be a little surprised at a 2010 Tribulation. But things can change--how many people had cell phones 10 years ago?

A chip under the skin is NOT the "mark of the beast". What behind the forehead? What do you do with your hands? The mark is waht you think and what you do. That what determins the mark of God or the mark of the beast.
 
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JaimeMan said:
Based on Israel's taking back Jerusalem in 1967, we can see that the Jubilee year would be celebrated Wed. 12, October 2016, that is, on the day of Atonement-Yom Kippur. In the year of Jubilee, all of Israel's people return home and join with their family to take a break from labor and give thanks to God. All debts including slavery are annulled. Originally the counting didn't actually start at the time the Jews entered into the Land of Israel, but rather after they finished conquering the Land and after apportioning it to each family, which was 1288 BCE. Hence the couting from 1967 rather than when they first got it in the 40s.

In a Pre-wrath context, seven years from 2010-2017 (Roman Calendar matching the Hebrew, the Hebrew actually adjusted to be about 6006 total years today.) Would be a plausible fit for the tribulation period.

With so much tension at this time the birth pangs may come together expediently enough in the next few years.

Interesting thoughts though...:)
I wouldnt be suprised to find the 7 year tribulation only takes 3 1/2 years
 
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Based on Israel's taking back Jerusalem in 1967, :scratch:we can see that the Jubilee year would be celebrated Wed. 12, October 2016,
Where is that prophecy at?
 
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LittleLambofJesus said:
Hmm. I had heard that was the full preterist view. :eek:
Negative the statement is true the auther simply understood that the prophacy used to determine the 7 year trib is greatly misunderstood.
the prophacy given to danial (9 v24-27 referred to the peaple of danial only (the Jews) and was fullfilled in approx73 ad. the AoD took place in 70 ad. even if that temple was to be rebuilt it would not be the same temple that was refered to in danial and by Jesus in the Gospels.
Further study of danial 11v31-45 shows that the time frame from the AoD to the end is far longer than the 3 1/2 years typically allotted by the 7year plan. dan11v33 and v35 both use time frame referances that are biblicaly typical to measure in the hundreds of years. After the AoD and before the great tribulation. thus danial itself seams to controdict the 7 year timeframe. most of this misunderstanding is brought about because of danial 9v27. I believe the kjv is poorly interpretted here, the american revised version seams to more closely match danial 11. This view is in no way unscriptural its simply a confusion in scripture , no where else in scripture is a 7 year timeframe discussed and the AoD is never mentioned in revelations yet many believe its in the middle of the tribulation due to this 7 year timeframe. i believe dan 12v7 is the best representation for the tribulation time frame and thats 3 1/2 years as is commanly mentioned in revelations both in relation to the jews and to Christians.
 
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To whoever is interested:

If Daniel 8:14 started in AD70 with the destruction of the temple, then we have to 2370AD? Till the sanctuary is cleansed. And the end of the trodden underfoot of the Gentiles. Aparently about the time the temple is cleansed, the Isrolites repent, and say blessed is "He that comes in the name of the Lord". Because Jesus said He would not come back till the nation of Israel (Which includes both houses, Israel and Juda) repents.
 
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