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To understand my problem, you'll have to have quite a bit of insight....So I'll try to explain the situation as well as I can, as quickly as possible:

My boyfriend and I have been together for nearly a year. We've been through a lot of tough things...[and somehow, I know there's going to be a lot more...there always is...] Anyway, for the first 7 or 8 months I lived at my house and he started renting from my parents, which is only a half a mile away. He's been through heck and back with my parents, merely because he has a couple of tattoos and used to drink, is an ex-crank addict, etc. [there are probably more reasons than that.] But, anyway, he used to be in this band and they drank all the time and fought and it was really just a big mess. [He's a great guitarist, and that's something he really enjoys doing.] Anyhow, that was over because we both came home drunk every* week and it was a big problem for my parents, and inside him and I. So, he's been without a band for 7 or 8 months or so...that upsets him quite a bit. Another thing is that when he was into drugs he always had a lot of friends, now we barely have any...none who come over and none we go see, unless it's someone he works with. That is a big issue for him, not so much me because I'm a very sheltered girl. I like my home, and the comfort of being here. He, on the other hand, loves home, but wants friends. I don't know how to find them for him, and he never really makes an effort. All he wants to do is move back to where he came from [about 2 hours away] and us be with his old friends [the druggies]. I try to tell him...the only reason they were your friends is because you were there and you either had something they liked or they wanted to drag you down with them. The only time any of them ever call is: "Hey come to my show..." or "Let's go to Ozzfest, you have to give me 100 dollars though..." It's really stupid and immature. He gets what I say about his old friends..how they really aren't his friends...but he just can't help but want some friends. I completely understand this. [Really, though, he just wants a band, or at least another guitarist to play with because that's his passion.] Recently we moved in together [3 months ago], I already know that's a sin. We have drank alcohol a few times and it's really causing a big barrier between us. We fight and argue and it's just sad...so we completely* gave that up together. I quit a job I'd been working at because I was getting 20 hrs every two* weeks...not even enough money to pay for the gas to get there. So, now, it seems like so much is adding onto us at once. I'm starting college in a few months and our vehicle has been having a lot of problems. My boyfriend is really stressed because he works 80 hrs every two weeks and when he comes home with the cash it's all gone. We're trying to make it. We were going to get married a few months ago, but we didn't because we wanted a nice wedding and we've been pretty broke. We will be getting married as soon as I get a job...I'm hoping to get one at wal-mart. Anyhow, everything has been going pretty sucky lately and I don't know what do to to make my boyfriend happy. When he gets home from work the house is very clean, the laundry is done, folded, and put away, the dishes are done, and dinner is on the table. I love on him always, but it's so hard to fill that void that I know I can't fill. I just want him to play in church, meet some people there, but we just go on Sundays because he acts a little uninterested. My parents keep telling me that if we get married and dedicate our lives fully* to God then everything will be better. I try so hard. I love God so much, but my boyfriend has been raised differently. He is the type who things that having a good heart and praying before you go to bed, and showing up for church on Sunday is going to get you to heaven. I have told him...good works mean nothing without faith. I also tried to explain to him that we have to give up everything. He just doesn't understand. I reallly need some advice. *Sigh* Help me! :)

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ppl are not very active in this forum! =/

well.. sorry for the late answer.. internet here was goin through some trouble!

ok.. first of all, in my opinion, you can't do anything to solve this problem (and is not you duty either)! If he needs friends so much, he is the one responsible to hunt this objective (of making new friends).. you CAN introduce him ppl from your church.. that would be really good..!

but, i heard something a couple days ago.. and i think you should think about a little.. before you get married, are your spiritual lives 'in-tune'??? if you are a spirit-filled girl, and he doesn't like or care about his spiritual life and relationship with God, it's trouble ahead! That's a very serious point that must be consider! Unfortunately, we can't change ppl. But you can, and MUST, pray and ask God to show you if he's the right one and asking Him to touch your boyfriend's heart! It may (or it will) be a really difficult relationship if you both don't share the same spirit!

Sorry.. that's all I gotta say right now.. hope this little can help you somehow! ;]

Peace! And listen to the Holy Spirit! That's the most important! =] Always talk to God, and He will answer your doubts! Actually, He is the only one who can give you answers! ;]
 
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Well, 1st, let me tell you, there's nothing you can do to make him happy. He's got to be the one to do that for himself.

The questions that I would be asking myself is, what can I do to make myself happy? Why does he feel like he needs drugs & alcohol? Why does he even want to be around his 'druggie friends'? Why would I want to be married to a man like this?

Sounds like you're headed in the right direction of college....I would stick down that road and just take your time and think through those questions.

God bless. :pray:
 
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See...I would give anything for us to be a really godly and faith filled couple...but he just, doesn't understand it. I was raised to where I know...but he has never been raised like that. He acts like it's my fault that he doesn't have friends because I told him that I don't like the idea* of him hanging out with the guys that he used to be in a band with who drink constantly...and I told him that it isn't a good thing for me and him. I never said he couldn't be friends with them...but I did say that I didn't like it and I wouldn't support it. He hates that, so he holds a grudge against me for it. I guess he wants to go back around his old friends who do drugs and drink because that's all he's ever known...but I wish I could fix it. I was hoping him and a couple of guys at church could get along but he just hates that idea because he doesn't want to be looked as a 'goody-two-shoes' ??? It's such a difficult thing because I want to make him happy and I know when he comes home from work that he's bored and that he isn't really happy...well, inside because he 'needs friends.' I try to be the best friend to him and I can see that he needs guy friends. I had a couple of friends who had good morals come over a few weeks ago and he laid in bed. [they were a couple.] Anyway, I think he has a bipolar disorder because he goes from really happy to really unhappy. It's weird. He's always done it. Anyway, I don't know how to tell him that he needs to find friends and that he needs to find a band that have good morals. [I don't mind him stating his oppinion to me but it seems bad when I state mine. He takes it like I'm 'controlling' but I just want the best for us.] I want us to stay together and have a prosperous relationship rather than one that goes downhill. Anywho...thanks so much guys!!! :)

Peace.
 
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Mansonslilchild said:
My parents keep telling me that if we get married and dedicate our lives fully* to God then everything will be better

I think your parents are right (I know, it's horrible to hear that!). If you fully dedicate your relationship to God - and take your "hands" off of your boyfriend, i.e let him go, then God can work on him.

God can only work in a situation if we let Him - He's a gentleman and won't interfere if he's not invited to. So, you need to let your boyfriend "go" (I'm not saying break up with him) - stop taking responsibility for him basically. He's not your responsibility, his happiness is not your responsibility. I know as his girlfriend you want to help him be happy and make friends etc - if you give it all to God and let go of it, the results will be so much better than anything you (or anyone else) could acheive in your own strength.

Here if you need to chat over PM :)
 
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Right now what seems to be happening is there is a tug of war going on in your boyfriend, it's basically between you and the life he really wants.

Chances are after you get married that pull to the life he really wants will win or he will cycle back and forth.

As you said, he really doesn't get it.

I would suggest the correct things to do is break it off with him. He's not ready. Don't know if he will ever be ready, but what will likely happen is that over time his past life will seem better and better than it really was, and he will more and more blame you for "making" him unhappy.

A marriage won't work unless he really wants to and choses the life you want. At this time it's just not happening.

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To understand my problem, you'll have to have quite a bit of insight....So I'll try to explain the situation as well as I can, as quickly as possible:

My boyfriend and I have been together for nearly a year. We've been through a lot of tough things...[and somehow, I know there's going to be a lot more...there always is...] Anyway, for the first 7 or 8 months I lived at my house and he started renting from my parents, which is only a half a mile away. He's been through heck and back with my parents, merely because he has a couple of tattoos and used to drink, is an ex-crank addict, etc. [there are probably more reasons than that.] But, anyway, he used to be in this band and they drank all the time and fought and it was really just a big mess. [He's a great guitarist, and that's something he really enjoys doing.] Anyhow, that was over because we both came home drunk every* week and it was a big problem for my parents, and inside him and I. So, he's been without a band for 7 or 8 months or so...that upsets him quite a bit. Another thing is that when he was into drugs he always had a lot of friends, now we barely have any...none who come over and none we go see, unless it's someone he works with. That is a big issue for him, not so much me because I'm a very sheltered girl. I like my home, and the comfort of being here. He, on the other hand, loves home, but wants friends. I don't know how to find them for him, and he never really makes an effort. All he wants to do is move back to where he came from [about 2 hours away] and us be with his old friends [the druggies]. I try to tell him...the only reason they were your friends is because you were there and you either had something they liked or they wanted to drag you down with them. The only time any of them ever call is: "Hey come to my show..." or "Let's go to Ozzfest, you have to give me 100 dollars though..." It's really stupid and immature. He gets what I say about his old friends..how they really aren't his friends...but he just can't help but want some friends. I completely understand this. [Really, though, he just wants a band, or at least another guitarist to play with because that's his passion.] Recently we moved in together [3 months ago], I already know that's a sin. We have drank alcohol a few times and it's really causing a big barrier between us. We fight and argue and it's just sad...so we completely* gave that up together. I quit a job I'd been working at because I was getting 20 hrs every two* weeks...not even enough money to pay for the gas to get there. So, now, it seems like so much is adding onto us at once. I'm starting college in a few months and our vehicle has been having a lot of problems. My boyfriend is really stressed because he works 80 hrs every two weeks and when he comes home with the cash it's all gone. We're trying to make it. We were going to get married a few months ago, but we didn't because we wanted a nice wedding and we've been pretty broke. We will be getting married as soon as I get a job...I'm hoping to get one at wal-mart. Anyhow, everything has been going pretty sucky lately and I don't know what do to to make my boyfriend happy. When he gets home from work the house is very clean, the laundry is done, folded, and put away, the dishes are done, and dinner is on the table. I love on him always, but it's so hard to fill that void that I know I can't fill. I just want him to play in church, meet some people there, but we just go on Sundays because he acts a little uninterested. My parents keep telling me that if we get married and dedicate our lives fully* to God then everything will be better. I try so hard. I love God so much, but my boyfriend has been raised differently. He is the type who things that having a good heart and praying before you go to bed, and showing up for church on Sunday is going to get you to heaven. I have told him...good works mean nothing without faith. I also tried to explain to him that we have to give up everything. He just doesn't understand. I reallly need some advice. *Sigh* Help me! :)

Thanks.
Peace.
First of all....massive hugs :hug: :hug:


Now for the sad bit, which you are not going to like one bit. I don't think either of you are suited to be together; what is really holding you together? Also, you are both in stages of your life where it is better to be single for sometime as you draw nearer to God, and your parents are wrong about the marriage making things better. While it is wrong to live in sin, it is also wrong to get married for all the wrong reasons, cus that is bound to lead to anger, resentment, bitterness, fights, undue pressure, and often innocent children being born into the mix. No one should ever get married to an ex drug addict who has not been clean for at least a year...and needs to be convinced or reminded about the perils of hanging out with former druggie friends.

You both need to do a lot of growing up....preferrably apart.

Sorry :pray:

Take it to God in prayer, but be brave and courageous and do the right thing...stop living with him. And don't marry him to make it okay.

God bless you.
 
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Well, he tells me that he wants to be with me and have this life.....but when we fight, not argue...just the 2 times a week we fight, he will bring all of that up. Then after the conversation is over, he'll tell me he's sorry and all of that. Other than those times, he's usually really sweet and loves me, etc. He never brings it up unless we're fighting.
 
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Well, he tells me that he wants to be with me and have this life

Well, it sounds like, from what you're posting, that you're not okay with "his life".(as you shouldn't be, because it's very destructive)

So, it sounds like he has a choice to make.....either his 'lifestyle' or you. It's really that simple.....but there's alot of emotions that go along with it, that make it hard for you, I know. :hug:

Just, stand strong in what you want & what you believe in and don't settle for less. :)
 
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You're right, Passionate One, I can't just say go, though. I love him so much. But, I have told him that and he acts like he wants to...but 2 hours later he's hugging me and telling me he's sorry? What is that? A battle within himself?

Yes, he's sounds pretty 'torn' too, because I'm sure he loves you too. So, if he can work it out, within himself to be the kind of man you want him to be....ie. Christian, not doing drugs & alcohol, then it'll work between you two.

But, these things take time to work out.....even if he wanted to, he couldn't change overnight, plus he's got to want to do it for himself.

Sometimes, 2 people might love each other, but just not be right for each other and sometimes 2 people can do whatever it will take to stay together for love.

Just through time & patience you will see what is meant to be for you.

:prayer: God bless!
 
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Well, he tells me that he wants to be with me and have this life.....but when we fight, not argue...just the 2 times a week we fight, he will bring all of that up. Then after the conversation is over, he'll tell me he's sorry and all of that. Other than those times, he's usually really sweet and loves me, etc. He never brings it up unless we're fighting.
You're just making excuses for continuing to live in sin.

Whether he loves you or not, your actions probably upsets God. And it is God you should be trying to make HAPPY...not a mere mortal like your boyfriend.
 
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hi :wave:

sorry for your troubles.
but you have to understand that you cannot change anyone. sometimes, people cannot even change themselves to be who they want to be... even if they hate who they are or what they have done.

case in point ~> your boyfriend wants to be loving, kind, & wonderful to you and is at times. yet, with his background (i.e.: drugs), his wicked side uncontrollably comes out. dear sister, that's human nature. When our hearts turn to the Lord, it is a renewal, cleansing of the self. we are made anew and our behaviours change accordingly.

in addition, if this wonderful renewal of the heart does not happen, your advice(s) to him may come off as nagging. so, the answer to your question: how can you change him for the better? you cannot. only the Lord can do that, no matter how much you want to take a club and knock some sense into him. as for him changing himself, perhaps with maturity. but he has to know his sins are sins (even anger) and understand the Grace of God and seek to have a relationship with Him. with his heart and mind.

in other words, let's say your boyfriend keeps pushing you to have a close relationship with whom you are not much interested. you know that person is good for you, but you're just not much mesmorized by this person as he is. what's your take on that situation?

i've lived my life the way i wanted to all this time only to realize that i could have saved myself a lot of heartache, time & trouble doing it the Lord's way. now, i just have a lot of cleaning up to do... :doh: it may hurt now and be rough now. but there is so much blessing and joy to come if we just listen to our Father.

~ much prayers for you.
 
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Mansonschild, I really think the people here are right. Unfortunately this man has too many problems. He is not ready to be the wonderful, mature man you deserve next to you. If you already fight twice a week now, what will that be later? It seems to me like you have given him many options to grow more and become both more spiritual and mature.
While it is wonderful to be spiritually matched, some people only come to that after marriage. What MUST be matched though is goals, ideals and the level of commitment and maturity to strive for them. I know you feel like you love him, but you seem to want a normal, healthy life, with evenings at home, evenings with friends, a church going habit, probably children, school, etc. He seems to crave constant entertainment. Working 80 hours per two weeks is the standard amount, and the money will always go to rent, car, education, clothing, gas, water and food. When we grow up, we let go of the idea that all the money we make must be ours to spend on fun stuff and to go out with, etc. It seems that unfortunately your boyfriend is not ready for this. The fact that he works out his unhappiness in argueing with you several times a week BUT does not take any initiative to change the things he is unhappy about is a clear sign that, no matter what he says two hours later, he does not value you enough to wish to even try to spare you his temper over something that is not your fault.
When we mess up, we can say "I am sorry", but when you continually keep messing up, we also need to do the effort to change. And when we want to be in a relationship, it our own responsability to have a healthy relationship with ourselves, our goals and our life first. No one else can fix that for us.

I fear I do not see much hope for your boyfriend to change in the immediate future. There are no little signs that he has turned a corner and is changing towards that responsible man that you deserve. If you keep in a relationship like this, eventually you will end up commited to him by marriage or by children that you have. You will end up with a husband or steady partner who will either do drugs, or lament that he isn't doing drugs, who will resent the fact that the responsabilities he is having to face cut into his fun times. The man he is will NOT change because of your love, or because of your relationship. Think seriously, do you want to have a relationship for the rest of your life with a person who has a drinking problem (stopping to drink for a few weeks or even months does not end the problem, especially if the desire is still there), an attitude problem and is not able to be happy within your relationship for a consistent week, let alone months and years?
 
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