I Would Be LIVID!

[The Narrow Way]

This is one more reason why Homeschool is becoming more popular everyday! It is infuriating that those in control of the Public Schools think they have the right to take away the GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS of PARENTS.

Christians need to MOVE OUT of those districts/States to States that allow PARENTS to make the choices for their minor children.

Parents sue DC over 'reckless,' 'unconstitutional' law to vaccinate kids without parental consent

 

[SkyWriting]

This is one more reason why Homeschool is becoming more popular everyday! It is infuriating that those in control of the Public Schools think they have the right to take away the GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS of PARENTS.

Christians need to MOVE OUT of those districts/States to States that allow PARENTS to make the choices for their minor children.

Parents sue DC over 'reckless,' 'unconstitutional' law to vaccinate kids without parental consent

One of the issues with public schools is that they are subject to public policies.
Home schooling is the alternative or private schools.

 

[iluvatar5150]

DC has one of then lowest per capita covid death rates in the country. Folks should totally move away to a state that has more death-by-freedom.

 

[SarahsKnight]

After reading this article, I really don't understand why there would be religious objections to a vaccine, though. Someone please tell me where in Scripture God gives any indication that can be reasonably interpreted as Him despising, forbidding, or condemning one of His children getting a needle in his arm to help increase his chances of not contracting a viral infection. Where is one's Biblical morals being compromised to any degree in getting vaccinated?

 

[Original Happy Camper]

After reading this article, I really don't understand why there would be religious objections to a vaccine, though. Someone please tell me where in Scripture God gives any indication that can be reasonably interpreted as Him despising, forbidding, or condemning one of His children getting a needle in his arm to help increase his chances of not contracting a viral infection. Where is one's Biblical morals being compromised to any degree in getting vaccinated?

The Jaenisch lab’s work might also explain why patients who have recovered from Covid-19 still test positive for the disease, even months later, according to an ABC news report. If the virus did modify these patients’ DNA, then its genetic information could still be active. The Jaenisch lab found that the virus used an enzyme called LINE-1 to get back into the cell to replicate. LINE-1 is readily available in the human genome.

Regarding whether mRNA vaccines could change DNA, Dr. Jaenisch thinks it might be a good thing. He also thinks this new technology will lead the way to breakthrough treatments for many diseases that affect people. Since Dr. Jaenisch has been studying DNA in cancer and neurological diseases for decades, what he thinks is likely more than most of us know.

GOD created your dna, which is unique to only you, man should not change it

Can the mRNA vaccines change DNA?

 

[SarahsKnight]

GOD created your dna, which is unique to only you, man should not change it

Fair enough. I at least get why the thought or picture of this happening would be objectionable.

I just don't think shifting a cytosine base or two around on a DNA strand is on par with selling one's soul, personally, but I can at least respect what you are saying here.

 

[pdudgeon]

After reading this article, I really don't understand why there would be religious objections to a vaccine, though. Someone please tell me where in Scripture God gives any indication that can be reasonably interpreted as Him despising, forbidding, or condemning one of His children getting a needle in his arm to help increase his chances of not contracting a viral infection. Where is one's Biblical morals being compromised to any degree in getting vaccinated?

Only one word is needed here.
Murder. That's something that God hates and has always hated right from the beginning.
What the news has never done is to openly acknowledge that the vaccines are only possible because of how they have been created and tested.

 

[expos4ever]

Why, exactly, are you “livid” when the state protects children from abusive parents?

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Fair enough. I at least get why the thought or picture of this happening would be objectionable.

I just don't think shifting a cytosine base or two around on a DNA strand is on par with selling one's soul, personally, but I can at least respect what you are saying here.

Satan changes everything that god puts in place using man to to the dirty work

If it so great then why use corecion, which Jesus never does only satan does

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Why, exactly, are you “livid” when the state protects children from abusive parents?

straw man argument

 

[expos4ever]

straw man argument

No.

A straw man (sometimes written as strawman) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the real subject of the argument was not addressed or refuted, but instead replaced with a false one.

I directly addressed the actual argument set forth in the OP - so my argument is certainly not a strawman.

I suspect that you object to my characterization of parents who do refuse to have their children vaccinated as "abusive".

Well, how is it not abuse to needlessly subject your children to risk of serious illness?

 

[Rachel20]

Fair enough. I at least get why the thought or picture of this happening would be objectionable.

I just don't think shifting a cytosine base or two around on a DNA strand is on par with selling one's soul, personally, but I can at least respect what you are saying here.

Have you heard of the Nephillim view of Genesis 6? It may actually be in view here, since Jesus likened the last days to the days of Noah. If that view is correct, then what was really going on in Gen 6 was the corruption of the human gene pool. And the purpose of the flood to save it. It gives a whole new meaning to Noah being "righteous in all his generations" (pure genetic line) and the modern push for transhumanism.

 

[bèlla]

Homeschooling isn’t growing in popularity. The people joining the bandwagon are those in the position to do so or willing to make the sacrifices. Which isn’t the majority and never will be.

Most parents don’t want to educate their children at home.
Most parents don’t want the responsibility for teaching.
Most parents can’t forgo a salary to do it.

Most parents don’t want to be home with their children.

Irrespective of Covid.
Irrespective of vaccines.
Irrespective of faith.

They didn’t enjoy it.

They complained when the schools were closed.
They complained about virtual learning.
They complained about the responsibilities.

They want their freedom.

That’s the truth.

~bella

 

[Original Happy Camper]

No.

A straw man (sometimes written as strawman) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the real subject of the argument was not addressed or refuted, but instead replaced with a false one.

I directly addressed the actual argument set forth in the OP - so my argument is certainly not a strawman.

I suspect that you object to my characterization of parents who do refuse to have their children vaccinated as "abusive".

Well, how is it not abuse to needlessly subject your children to risk of serious illness?

Parents subject their children to death every time they put them in a car is that abuse?

 

[Rachel20]

Homeschooling isn’t growing in popularity. The people joining the bandwagon are those in the position to do so or willing to make the sacrifices. Which isn’t the majority and never will be.

I've heard some are pooling resources with other parents in same condition and hiring a teacher. It's achievable that way and the parents avoid the pitfalls you mention.

 

[The Narrow Way]

Homeschooling isn’t growing in popularity. The people joining the bandwagon are those in the position to do so or willing to make the sacrifices. Which isn’t the majority and never will be.

Most parents don’t want to educate their children at home.
Most parents don’t want the responsibility for teaching.
Most parents can’t forgo a salary to do it.

Most parents don’t want to be home with their children.

Irrespective of Covid.
Irrespective of vaccines.
Irrespective of faith.

They didn’t enjoy it.

They complained when the schools were closed.
They complained about virtual learning.
They complained about the responsibilities.

They want their freedom.

That’s the truth.

~bella

Sad...but TRUE

 

[grasping the after wind]

Why, exactly, are you “livid” when the state protects children from abusive parents?

Why would a reasonable person not become livid when the state assumes the parent does not have the child's best interest at heart and must do things behind the parent's backs.? What other things might the state decide that children must do or be told that the state doesn't want the parents to know about? Why do you assume the state is more interested in protecting children than the children's parents are? I have yet to see politician that cared one whit about my children.

 

[expos4ever]

Parents subject their children to death every time they put them in a car is that abuse?

No, it is not abuse and this is not an apt comparison. Using a car is arguably a necessity in modern civilized societies - people, including children, need to get from A to B. The benefits of putting the kids in the car greatly outweigh the risks. By contrast, the risks to kids of not getting vaccinated greatly outweigh the benefits of skipping the shots - no expert will disagree with this.

There is no excuse, barring exceptional medical circumstances, for not vaccinating your children - it is profoundly irresponsible and reckless to skip vaccinations.

 

[expos4ever]

Why would a reasonable person not become livid when the state assumes the parent does not have the child's best interest at heart and must do things behind the parent's backs.?

Vaccination is clearly the responsible course of action - parents should not have the right to risk the health of their children.

What other things might the state decide that children must do or be told that the state doesn't want the parents to know about?

Not sure what your point is - the state should, and does limit the rights of parent in many respects:

- parents are not permitted to let their kids ride in the car without seatbelts.
- parent are not permitted to deny their children basic medical care.
- parents are not permitted to make their children consume copious amounts of alchohol.

Why do you assume the state is more interested in protecting children than the children's parents are?

I make no such assumption. I am sure the parents are at least as interested in denying their children vaccines as the state is interested in vaccinating them.

The parents are simply wrong.

 

[mama2one]

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