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It is abolished for the Christian because the law culminated to the max in the flesh, where the whole old creation went with it, the Adamic creation, and the law, to the cross, Now we are raised up out of that whole old creation, like how Jesus was. Hence, we are not under law, but in the reign of Grace, Rom 5;21. The unsaved are not, they can only leave the realm of sin, law, and flesh, by death to it, then they will be raised up out of it too. Right now, they are still in the present evil age, Gal 1:4. The law was to make Adam really be known. Romans 5:20.

Our old man, the whole Adamic creation went..

6 We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.


Now we are..

4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
 
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Then there can be disagreement in a single church. God bless Luther for his very brave defiant stand.
 
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If God's Law isn't binding, then why did Jesus die on the cross for your sins?
Which Law of God's do you refer to? The Mosaic Law, which God gave to the people of Israel or the Law of the Spirit, which God gave to those of faith?
I would like to hear you explain justification of Christ's death without getting into binding laws stemming from God's legal system.
When you can do that, then maybe I'll buy that the Law has been abolished.
Jesus was born into this world to do what no man could ever do. Be totally obedient to God the Father. He lived the perfect life. He suffered because of his perfection. He became the perfect sacrifice which was foretold throughout the OT. The justification for Christ's death was his pure and perfect love for his sheep.

Man can only find justification through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and not through trying to be obedient to a list of Laws. The Law which we Spiritually obey is to love. Without love, no law can justify us before God.

The Law still exists. Every person who does not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and salvation will have the law as their judge. Those who have the blood of the Lamb, have had Jesus fulfill the demands for them.

Praise be his holy name,
Jesus Christ, my Lord and my salvation
 
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OK maybe I got a little caught up here with the problems I see and forgot about asking if you've considered I Tim 1:8-10. I think it is a great Scripture showing who the law applies to and who it doesn't apply to. It seems that some refused to accept the righteousness of Jesus Christ which is the only way one can get the righteousness required by God as a free gift.
 
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http://www.ccel.org/ccel/athanasius/incarnation.txt



snip...


God's Law is fulfilled by God.

Forgive me...
 
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I've learned that I don't argue with Christians outside of this forum. People can't develop their thoughts and explain their beliefs nor can they find scripture fast enough (I'm definitely one of them) to have an argument...but here, arguments last forever because people can actually go to scripture or not go to scripture and explain to one another what they believe.

Argument and discussion is not bad until we become unchristian like and that's when it generally needs to stop.
 
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Touch not the evil thing.
Don't let your inner child play with matches.
 
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