I want to make myself very clear on why I'm having trouble with your "God".

[Soopa]

first and foremost, please forgive me for speaking as if God is not my God as well, i'm harvesting serious emotions and doubt here, and I wish to offend no one...

Yes, i have scanned the forum anonymously, and i've gotten emails and PM's...I apologize for my lack of response, especially to peacechild4, Jane(Im-revived), covenantwmn and many others...even in the frustration, i want you to know that I appreciate and thank you for the care and concern...

I'm not here to debate or argue the fact that "God" does what he does in his time...and i also know or at least I think, he doesn't owe me, nor do i even deserve, an explanation of why things are the way they are...you'll just have to forgive me for being a human, a mere mortal, incapable of deflecting, nor protect myself from being deceived, from being harmed, from being neglected, from anything...i thought that when you prayed earnestly and with all that is in your heart, that the "Lord" moved for his children...seeing as he supposedly knows what is in your heart, right??? you call this "tests", sort to speak, well i call it game playing and scare tactics....what type of LOVE is THAT?? Would you as a parent or concerned guardian allow ANYONE to hurt your child? Just to prove a point??? To scare them into acting THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO ACT??? well, i'm sorry, but that is not loving you because they respect you, it is loving you because they FEAR you, a big difference if you ask me...

my wife is a HYPOCRITE...for days now, she has been spouting praises of God and blah, blah, blah....what a joke?!? how quickly she is to judge me over alcohol and marijuana, but says NOTHING about her adultery....kind of an oxymoron, don't you think?? i mean this has to be some kind of joke between her and Jesus and God, correct?? she makes all these statements and plans for the future, got big money coming soon...but she says nothing about divorce or straightening this stuff out...and God allows her to be this way towards me...HE makes ME still love her, as much as i wish that i could hate this b-i-t-c-h and be done with it...but oh no, let's mess with Michael as long as we can...where is the justice?? when will i be redeemed for what has been done to me?? if the answer is NEVER, then why the hell am I HERE??? that my friends, is the big joke to me....

make me understand, cause i sure as hell don't and don't know if I ever will...he can end this, but he won't because it's all fun and games for him..."Deal with it Michael, I'm God and there's nothing you can do about it"
that's what i hear...

 

[JacobsDream]

...seeing as he supposedly knows what is in your heart, right??? you call this "tests", sort to speak, well i call it game playing and scare tactics....what type of LOVE is THAT?? Would you as a parent or concerned guardian allow ANYONE to hurt your child? Just to prove a point??? To scare them into acting THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO ACT??? well, i'm sorry, but that is not loving you because they respect you, it is loving you because they FEAR you, a big difference if you ask me...

God does not use fear tactics. If he did, you and I wouldn't have made it this long. The world is evil. When Jesus came, people were still dealing with an evil world, right under his nose. His cousin Larazrus even died. You see the point, we can't change the world but God is our victory over it. Why didn't mary say, "Jesus, what kind of love do you have?" she didn't because she knows that bad things dont come from God. God disciplines but is not wicked and heartless and bad things don't come from him. Why can't we be like Mary. Jesus answered her call and resurrected him. Jesus can restore the lost years in your life, fill the void you can't phatom for breachable.

my wife is a HYPOCRITE...for days now, she has been spouting praises of God and blah, blah, blah....what a joke?!? how quickly she is to judge me over alcohol and marijuana, but says NOTHING about her adultery....kind of an oxymoron, don't you think?? i mean this has to be some kind of joke between her and Jesus and God, correct?? she makes all these statements and plans for the future, got big money coming soon...but she says nothing about divorce or straightening this stuff out...and God allows her to be this way towards me...HE makes ME still love her, as much as i wish that i could hate this b-i-t-c-h and be done with it...but oh no, let's mess with Michael as long as we can...where is the justice?? when will i be redeemed for what has been done to me?? if the answer is NEVER, then why the hell am I HERE??? that my friends, is the big joke to me....

If you give God a chance. Vengeance is the Lord's. He is certainly smart enough to know how to deal with her. If you had a chance to kill her trust me, you will be satisfied for 2 seconds, then live your life in regret. Give God a chance to work.

make me understand, cause i sure as hell don't and don't know if I ever will...he can end this, but he won't because it's all fun and games for him..."Deal with it Michael, I'm God and there's nothing you can do about it"
that's what i hear...

The bible says to beleive and recieve. Jesus rebuked Thomas for doubting because he did not see (when he refused to beleive Jesus was alive unless he put his hand into Jesus' wounds).
How long should we wait? a day, two days, a year. The answer is this:
God's time. Mary demanded of Jesus for the wedding that ran out of wine. (can you imagine a wedding without drink) and Jesus said it wasn't his time yet. Was he too late? no.

You are angry, unforgiving and your emotions are getting in the way and that is well understood. Tell me bro, why didn't Job sound like you do? Why didn't he curse God and die? Why didn't Mary curse Jesus for letting Larzarus die.
Paul and Silas spent their adult lives for Jesus only to end up in prison. What did they do.

You sound like a completely different person. The prayers will keep flowing to God for you and hopefully, the fire that once burnt for God will be rekindled.

 

[Soopa]

you know what is sad brother?

I've had like minutes to think about what i wrote...

you are right...and i know that...but there is another person inside of me that won't let me get right or see that...

maybe i need an exorcism or something, i don't know...and i'm not trying to make jokes, i know that my soul is at stake...

but knowing and acting and knowing and not caring are two different avenues...

and i assume that i care, because i came back to read this, right???

 

[JacobsDream]

You cared from the moment you started the other thread.
The devil can't break our doors down and kill us, but it can sure mess with out thoughts.
As unsumountable as you think this is for you to overcome, can you imagine actually making it through? You and I know no one who has trusted God and has gone through hell that has been disappointed.
Every living creature faces adversity, and life is not fair. It is how we handle it that sets us apart, that God comes in. Heck, my father makes enough to raise 25kids, never even has to drive himself but has abandoned me for 5yrs now, just because I love Jesus. But that Jesus has proved to me that He is my true father and yet, I still love and pray for my bio father.
You love your wife like I do my father, and so does God. Give God a chance, he can do the impossible.
Praise God.

 

[JacobsDream]

Father in the name of Jesus, we plant and water, but only you can make grow. I pray today that you show your strenght in our weakness. You said to take heart, that you have conquered the world. We stand with you today, beleiving that you are not through with us yet. The battle is yours.
Turn his heart and his situation around, to the glory of your name. Let your strenght show father, you know he will never forget it, in Jesus name we pray, amen.

 

[JacobsDream]

Father, we are also praying for SilentPoet. If you didn't love us father, why would you die for us? If you haven't provided at all, why would we have food to eat and a bed to lay our heads?
We all know that there is no one who has put their trust in you in the bible that has been disappointed. Mary lost Larzarus, Paul and Silas were persecuted, Job lost everything, Joseph was sold to die and was inprisoned but we all see how they ended up.
Give Soopa and SilentPoet the vision to see your hand in their lives, your love that no wrong doing can over shadow. In Jesus name we pray, amen.

 

[Jesus606Is606Lord]

id like 2 say this i have found surfed the net and found some sites that say that its not god who tests us but the devil yes thats right the devil God wouldent do any thing 2 hurt us he is here 4 us and i pray that u will come bck b4 ur hart is harden 4good and u wont b able 2 change ur mine after that evan if u wont 2 and no the truf and pray as hard as u can b carfull when u start 2 do things like this

 

[eturner74]

It is not god doing this to you it is the devil if you keep your faith in god he will help you through all of this and everything will work out for you I am praying for you

 

[covenantwmn]

Michael, when I was in counseling after my divorce, my question was "Why didn't God stop him from leaving?" My pastor answered, "He tried, Larry's not listening." That was huge for me, God always desires the good, but if those involved have closed their ears, He will not force them, and He will be faithful to help us get thru. Your wife sounds like she is confused right now with how she is living and professing Christ, you sound in pain and are trying to numb yourself. I pray that you allow the peace of Christ in, to trust Him even tho you are being treated horribly. I know the One who went to the cross without a word will help you get thru this ugly time. My prayer is, has been, that He will restore your marriage and give you the relationship you desire. But if your wife is not listening and decides to go her own way, I pray you can begin anew, totally in Him and in peace. I'm here if you ever need to talk.
love, Leslie

 

[woman.at.the.well]

God does not use fear tactics. If he did, you and I wouldn't have made it this long. The world is evil. When Jesus came, people were still dealing with an evil world, right under his nose. His cousin Larazrus even died. You see the point, we can't change the world but God is our victory over it. Why didn't mary say, "Jesus, what kind of love do you have?" she didn't because she knows that bad things dont come from God. God disciplines but is not wicked and heartless and bad things don't come from him. Why can't we be like Mary. Jesus answered her call and resurrected him. Jesus can restore the lost years in your life, fill the void you can't phatom for breachable.




If you give God a chance. Vengeance is the Lord's. He is certainly smart enough to know how to deal with her. If you had a chance to kill her trust me, you will be satisfied for 2 seconds, then live your life in regret. Give God a chance to work.



The bible says to beleive and recieve. Jesus rebuked Thomas for doubting because he did not see (when he refused to beleive Jesus was alive unless he put his hand into Jesus' wounds).
How long should we wait? a day, two days, a year. The answer is this:
God's time. Mary demanded of Jesus for the wedding that ran out of wine. (can you imagine a wedding without drink) and Jesus said it wasn't his time yet. Was he too late? no.

You are angry, unforgiving and your emotions are getting in the way and that is well understood. Tell me bro, why didn't Job sound like you do? Why didn't he curse God and die? Why didn't Mary curse Jesus for letting Larzarus die.
Paul and Silas spent their adult lives for Jesus only to end up in prison. What did they do.

You sound like a completely different person. The prayers will keep flowing to God for you and hopefully, the fire that once burnt for God will be rekindled.

& Amen!

 

[ceedaisy]

Soopa, I've been reading your posts and praying silently for you. I just wanted to quickly say that Jacob and Convenant seem to have dug their own wells and are letting you drink in their experience, so that you don't make the same mistake. Convenant hit on something that I wanted to remind you of. G-d gives us free will. He doesn't MAKE us do anything. He isn't making her spout praises and yet not asking for forgiveness for her own sin. You want her to feel bad for what she had done. But she is blinded by material things it seems. The devil has found your weak spot and is doing a darn good job bringing you down and farther away from Christ's Love, Glory, Mercy, and Grace. Yes, satan is very happy with the job of bringing misery into your life. G-d cannot make that misery disappear against your will. You have to let go. Everyone is right, no one who has put their faith in our merciful L-rd has been let down. Why do you blame G-d for your wife's actions? She is the one who sinned. But yet she isn't perfect either. Please for the sake of your soul and peace, just stop, stand, and listen to G-d.

 

[Harsh]

Although not married, I was engaged for months and raising her children. I got a similar story from her in that it was ok for her to go out and drink and run around with her new friends while I babysat (and no, I'm not perfect), but in the end it was all my fault for not being a good Christian leader and a stronger man. The fact is that God was trying to work in our relationship, and neither of us were listening, her out of being selfish, childish, and basically making her own god in her own image, or at least how she wanted to see him, and me for being selfish and childish by wallowing in self-pity and not getting the family I so deeply desired. More than a year has passed now, and I know my situation pales by comparison, we were not married and it was only a couple years relationship, but with the children and all that happened, it was tough at the time, I was broken down completely. BUT! Praise God!! because he did allow me to be broken, he brought me low, and then he built me up. He built my faith like I didn't know it could be. He made me a strong man, confident and full of faith and energy to share with others. He has restored me in my church and with my family. He has given me a good job, and some really great prospects for my artwork/designs. He has shown me a truly wonderful, Christian woman who would die before renouncing God, who does not believe in divorce, who wants a Biblical family and an active church life. God is good all the time my man. I promise you this. In this Valley of Darkness, lift your head high, and praise the Lord your God, your Creator for the opportunity to suffer--for HIM--not for yourself. Focus everything you have on HIM. Forget about her if she is going to be that way toward you, and if it is meant to be, then she will repent to God, and then she will seek you out because God told her too. Be strong, be bold, but be IN GOD first and foremost. It's a tough line to hear, but God's primary goal in each of our lives is not our happiness, but He is Holy and Righteous no matter what we do and/or how we feel. Please, do yourself a favor Michael, do not judge God based on another person's behavior or interpretation of Him. Go to your Bible and find God there, let him into your heart. Cry, sob, yell, scream, beat your chest, let it all out, then pray some more and tell God that you surrender EVERYTHING to Him, all of who and what you are is His. And then, sit back and watch while you go about your daily business as God will most assurely move in your life. All I can say is the truth. God does love you. He will provide for you, but you have to trust in Him, and accept this graceful gift. I pray that you will open up to Him once again. In Christ, Amen.