I want to be a sperm donor

[Ave Maria]

Don't do it. Don't you know that invitro fertilization is gravely immoral? And besides, donating sperm usually involves masturbation or something else that is gravely immoral. That said, don't you also know that invitro fertilization often involves throwing away babies that aren't used during the invitro fertilization process?

 

[Rev.Ross]

Ave Maria,
Thank you for your opinion. I respectfully disagree. I am pro-life, therefore I am an advocate of sperm donation, whether I wind up doing it or not.
Thanks, Rev. Ross

 

[Laxion]

Masturbation immoral ? People have been masturbating for thousands of years.

Masturbation is universally accepted by the medical community as a common, safe, and normal practice for everyone. It doesn't harm you physically, but doing it too much probably will. Just know your limits, and you'd be okay.

now for the immoral part, that's only mentally. You think it's wrong, but I think it's just natural.

 

[Amiga1200]

Don't do it. Don't you know that invitro fertilization is gravely immoral? And besides, donating sperm usually involves masturbation or something else that is gravely immoral. That said, don't you also know that invitro fertilization often involves throwing away babies that aren't used during the invitro fertilization process?

Is this for real? Invitro is "gravely immoral"? Masturbation is "gravely immoral"? Are there any immoralities that you would NOT classify as "grave"?

p.s. By the way, I grew up Catholic and was told masturbation was immoral, even a mortal sin. I never masturbated. Don't feel like I missed out on much, but I definitely think the idea that it was immoral was insane.

 

[The Nihilist]

Don't do it. Don't you know that invitro fertilization is gravely immoral? And besides, donating sperm usually involves masturbation or something else that is gravely immoral. That said, don't you also know that invitro fertilization often involves throwing away babies that aren't used during the invitro fertilization process?

Have you thought about putting down your copy of Summa Theologica and actually going outside?

 

[lux et lex]

Is this for real? Invitro is "gravely immoral"? Masturbation is "gravely immoral"? Are there any immoralities that you would NOT classify as "grave"?

If the past is a pattern, minds will be changed and it won't be so bad anymore.

 

[Ave Maria]

Masturbation immoral ? People have been masturbating for thousands of years.

Masturbation is universally accepted by the medical community as a common, safe, and normal practice for everyone. It doesn't harm you physically, but doing it too much probably will. Just know your limits, and you'd be okay.

now for the immoral part, that's only mentally. You think it's wrong, but I think it's just natural.

People have been murdering other people for thousands of years as well. Doesn't make it ethical or moral now does it?

 

[Ave Maria]

Is this for real? Invitro is "gravely immoral"? Masturbation is "gravely immoral"? Are there any immoralities that you would NOT classify as "grave"?

p.s. By the way, I grew up Catholic and was told masturbation was immoral, even a mortal sin. I never masturbated. Don't feel like I missed out on much, but I definitely think the idea that it was immoral was insane.

Sure there are. Not all kinds of lies are gravely immoral as just one example.

 

[Amiga1200]

Ugh, and thats why I left the Catholic Church.

The Catholic church runs God like a computer program; if there's a syntax error, you go to hell.

And, yes, I'm surprised, but cue, "Every sperm is sacred....

 

[Jazer]

I want to be a sperm donor to a Christian couple.

Just find a egg donor and fertilize the egg. They say as soon as you have a fertile egg if it does die they go to heaven. So do 10 eggs and you will have 10 babies waiting for you when you get to heaven.

Actually there are lots of people who have fertile eggs looking for someone that wants to carry them to term. They already have all the children they need and they do not want to destory the eggs. Remember octomom that did not want to destory any of the fertile eggs and she told the doctor to implant all of them.

Either way, even if your wild plan did somehow work out then there would be lots of furtile eggs and only a few of them could be implanted. So what are they going to do with the eggs they do not implant? If you kill those eggs isn't that the same as abortion? Are you just going to put them on ice and freeze them and save them forever or until the next power failure? Maybe Jesus will get them when He comes at the rapture.

 

[Rev.Ross]

Jazer,
In the scenario I am talking about, whether I do it or not, the sperm donor gives a sample (via masturbation) into a cup. Then it it place in a tube with TYB to preserve it. It is then given to the recipient female, and she draws up the sperm/TYb in a small syringe and injects it to her vagina/cervix. She does this when she is in her fertile time. Ideally the sperm go for it, find the egg in her uterus and impregnate the egg.
This avoids the scenario you mentioned. There are not a bunch of loose fertilized eggs turning into embryos that die. In the Bible this sort of insemination was naturally done, but I would not do it the natural way, as that would involve genital contact with another women. My covenant with my wife precludes that. I do not believe in sex before marriage or outside of marriage. Thanks and God bless, Rev.Ross

 

[Starlightsobright]

Is it only Catholics that have been told that masturbation IVF , surrogacy and all types of " assisted" conception is sinful? I mean this as a serious question not a statement to offend or upset other people.

 

[lux et lex]

Is it only Catholics that have been told that masturbation IVF , surrogacy and all types of " assisted" conception is sinful? I mean this as a serious question not a statement to offend or upset other people.

I think so. I'm Lutheran, and I have never learned such, but I do believe in order for "pro life" people to be consistent they need to be against those things, because those fully people embryos are being "murdered" (yes I do realize that this is not a real definition of murder, but I'm jumping into their realm for half a second.)

My folks did IVF my mom is Lutheran and my father is Catholic. He didn't seem to have a problem with it. It didn't take, but my sister showed up shortly after they had finished.

 

[Laxion]

People have been murdering other people for thousands of years as well. Doesn't make it ethical or moral now does it?

I take that back , I don't think it's natural. It is Natural.

Well obviously, it still happens today, there is many many reasons, and factors for killing. For example, killing in the name of God, and Survival. Morals really depends on what the person thinks.

Well Morals is really such a general topic, it's really complex.

Back to Masturbation, so we go to hell if we do ? What are your reasons really?

 

[Rev.Ross]

Sperm donation is no sin, egg donation is no sin, masturbation is no sin. God loves life, and this is way to bring one more life into the world. Artificial insemination is a great gift to infertile couples. Thanks, Rev. Ross

 

[Fireside]

That's sick. God's created order for life is the only Biblical method, through marriage or adoption. IA is sick and wicked... read the Bible.

 

[The Nihilist]

That's sick. God's created order for life is the only Biblical method, through marriage or adoption. IA is sick and wicked... read the Bible.

You're the only christian I've ever met who thought so. Care to back it up with scripture, or do you want us to take your word for it?