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I have tried so hard to believe in God,
I can't because I don't get why he makes killers, pedophiles etc. So I get to go to hell for that? That seems cruel.

Raven,
Your questions and concerns are valid.



Question: "Why does God allow evil?"

Answer: The Bible describes God as holy (Isaiah 6:3), righteous (Psalm 7:11), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and sovereign (Daniel 4:17-25). These attributes tell us the following about God: (1) God is capable of preventing evil, and (2) God desires to rid the universe of evil. So, if both of these are true, why does God allow evil? If God has the power to prevent evil and desires to prevent evil, why does He still allow evil? Perhaps a practical way to look at this question would be to consider some alternative ways people might have God run the world:

1) God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation.

Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. Because of this, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to disobey. They chose to disobey. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us and those around us and those who will come after us.

2) God could compensate for people’s evil actions through supernatural intervention 100 percent of the time. God would stop a drunk driver from causing an automobile accident. God would stop a lazy construction worker from doing a substandard job on a house that would later cause grief to the homeowners. God would stop a father who is addicted to drugs or alcohol from doing any harm to his wife, children, or extended family. God would stop gunmen from robbing convenience stores. God would stop high school bullies from tormenting the brainy kids. God would stop thieves from shoplifting. And, yes, God would stop terrorists from flying airplanes into buildings.

While this solution sounds attractive, it would lose its attractiveness as soon as God’s intervention infringed on something we wanted to do. We want God to prevent horribly evil actions, but we are willing to let “lesser-evil” actions slide—not realizing that those “lesser-evil” actions are what usually lead to the “greater-evil” actions. Should God only stop actual sexual affairs, or should He also block our access to pornography or end any inappropriate, but not yet sexual, relationships? Should God stop “true” thieves, or should He also stop us from cheating on our taxes? Should God only stop murder, or should He also stop the “lesser-evil” actions done to people that lead them to commit murder? Should God only stop acts of terrorism, or should He also stop the indoctrination that transformed a person into a terrorist?

3) Another choice would be for God to judge and remove those who choose to commit evil acts. The problem with this possibility is that there would be no one left, for God would have to remove us all. We all sin and commit evil acts (Romans 3:23; Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). While some people are more evil than others, where would God draw the line? Ultimately, all evil causes harm to others.

Instead of these options, God has chosen to create a “real” world in which real choices have real consequences. In this real world of ours, our actions affect others. Because of Adam’s choice to sin, the world now lives under the curse, and we are all born with a sin nature (Romans 5:12). There will one day come a time when God will judge the sin in this world and make all things new, but He is purposely “delaying” in order to allow more time for people to repent so that He will not need to condemn them (2 Peter 3:9). Until then, He IS concerned about evil. When He created the Old Testament laws, the goal was to discourage and punish evil. He judges nations and rulers who disregard justice and pursue evil. Likewise, in the New Testament, God states that it is the government’s responsibility to provide justice in order to protect the innocent from evil (Romans 13). He also promises severe consequences for those who commit evil acts, especially against the "innocent" (Mark 9:36-42).

In summary, we live in a real world where our good and evil actions have direct consequences and indirect consequences upon us and those around us. God’s desire is that for all of our sakes we would obey Him that it might be well with us (Deuteronomy 5:29). Instead, what happens is that we choose our own way, and then we blame God for not doing anything about it. Such is the heart of sinful man. But Jesus came to change men’s hearts through the power of the Holy Spirit, and He does this for those who will turn from evil and call on Him to save them from their sin and its consequences (2 Corinthians 5:17). God does prevent and restrain some acts of evil. This world would be MUCH WORSE were not God restraining evil. At the same time, God has given us the ability to choose good and evil, and when we choose evil, He allows us, and those around us, to suffer the consequences of evil. Rather than blaming God and questioning God on why He does not prevent all evil, we should be about the business of proclaiming the cure for evil and its consequences—Jesus Christ!

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I have tried so hard to believe in God,
I can't because I don't get why he makes killers, pedophiles etc. So I get to go to hell for that? That seems cruel.

He makes people with free will, so that each of us can choose right or wrong, knowing our reward/punishment for each choice. He makes people that choose to be killers, just like He makes people that choose to help others. He makes people that choose to be pedophiles, just like He makes people that choose to be honest and faithful. He makes our physical form, but we make our actions.
 
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I have tried so hard to believe in God,
I can't because I don't get why he makes killers, pedophiles etc. So I get to go to hell for that? That seems cruel.
We think we would all like to be in a situation where there are no hurting people, no one has sinned, everything is provided, there is no sickness and even death does not exist, this describes the Garden of Eden. The problem with this “perfect situation” is the fact man will not fulfill man’s earthly objective in such a situation. What we learn from the story of the Garden situation is man/woman needs: to sin, have tragedies of all kinds, satan roaming the earth, Christ go to the cross and yes even have hell to exist” in order to have some accept God’s Love.
 
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Hi Raven,

You are saying that you are having trouble believing, yet you believe in hell. It is not that you don't believe it is that you doubt that God actually accepts the little faith that you do have. Just trust that God will accept your small faith, and you will be saved. Don't wait to have big faith, use the little that you have. All you have to do is trust that there is a Jesus and he died for you, and you will be saved. If you can believe in a hell, then you do believe in Jesus, just trust God loves you and wants you saved.
 
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I have tried so hard to believe in God,
I can't because I don't get why he makes killers, pedophiles etc. So I get to go to hell for that? That seems cruel.

I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

He doesn't make killers, they get inspired by the thief: satan. He's cruel, not God. God created everything including Adam and Eve very good. Cain killed his brother. Cain was a murderer and could be born, because Adam and Eve fell in sin and invited the devil.
 
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"'And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.'"

--Jesus Christ, quoted in John 3:19-21 ESV
 
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If you were to avoid Christianity and God, those evils in the world would still exist. Then how would they be explained? Probably the same way -- that people choose their own actions, and often tend toward self-centeredness.

The Bible speaks out against harming others. The prophets who delivered messages from God were delivering warnings to stop abusing and oppressing others. It is not God's will that man should suffer, especially unjustly at the hands of brutal tyrants.
 
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I am not sure why God allowed satan to exist at all, or why he created anything if he knew the suffering it would cause? I guess we will never know in this lifetime. I also feel it would be cruel for God to let someone go to hell if they are choosing to try and believe. I have said to many Christians that I find it hard to believe in Jesus that he died for my sins. They have said that it's not hard, just believe. That's very frustrating. But I guess all you can do is what you can do. I still don't really know if I am saved, and have felt that way since I began seeking out God, praying etc. 10 years now. I pray every day, have asked Jesus into my heart, but I dont feel any different. For example I never had the "I am saved!!! I feel amazing!!" phase that my husband had. and I have never felt a solid faith in God or Jesus.
 
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