I think i may be in the process of being given something of a spiritual gift????

[Al Touthentop]

I've read a lot of President Trump prophecies since 2010 and this is one of my favourites because it allows for President Trump to be human..... and go toward the darkness. I personally don't think that that is what he is doing but....... he certainly has the power to choose to think like King Nebuchadnezzar and I suspect the results would be similar?????


2018 Prophetic Word: Cancer, Baby Boomers, Trump, and the Nations

How does this prophecy confirm the authority and truth of God's word?

 

[DennisTate]

How does this prophecy confirm the authority and truth of God's word?

I am pretty sure that you could answer your own question from this one paragraph?

2018 Prophetic Word: Cancer, Baby Boomers, Trump, and the Nations

“Trump shall become My trumpet to the American people, for he possesses qualities that are even hard to find in My people these days. Trump does not fear man nor will he allow deception and lies to go unnoticed. I am going to use him to expose darkness and perversion in America like never before, but you must understand that he is like a bull in a china closet. Many will want to throw him away because he will disturb their sense of peace and tranquility, but you must listen through the bantering to discover the truth that I will speak through him. I will use the wealth that I have given him to expose and launch investigations searching for the truth. Just as I raised up Cyrus to fulfill My purposes and plans, so have I raised up Trump to fulfill my purposes and plans prior to the 2016 election. You must listen to the trumpet very closely for he will sound the alarm and many will be blessed because of his compassion and mercy. Though many see the outward pride and arrogance, I have given him the tender heart of a father that wants to lend a helping hand to the poor and the needy, to the foreigner and the stranger.”

For one thing....... "My Trumpet" could signal the Rapture and / or the Second Coming and:


Do you think President Trump may be willing to build a Jerusalem Temple?

Within seven years... or even withing forty two months...... of a decision made by President Trump.... the Rapture and / or the Second Coming could be set in motion?????

His Nebuchadnezzar - Cyrus - Samson - King Jehu calling on his life could really have that much authority and responsibility perhaps attached to it????


Which ties in with this discussion:


Could the two witnesses...... volunteer to NOT be raptured....

 

[ripple the car]

I am pretty sure that you could answer your own question from this one paragraph?

2018 Prophetic Word: Cancer, Baby Boomers, Trump, and the Nations



For one thing....... "My Trumpet" could signal the Rapture and / or the Second Coming and:


Do you think President Trump may be willing to build a Jerusalem Temple?

Within seven years... or even withing forty two months...... of a decision made by President Trump.... the Rapture and / or the Second Coming could be set in motion?????

His Nebuchadnezzar - Cyrus - Samson - King Jehu calling on his life could really have that much authority and responsibility perhaps attached to it????


Which ties in with this discussion:


Could the two witnesses...... volunteer to NOT be raptured....

And if this entire package of supposedly prophetic information turn out to be false, has time been wasted? Could people be distracted or mislead by too much focus on alleged prophecy? Or too much emphasis on alleged prophets?

 

[DennisTate]

And if this entire package of supposedly prophetic information turn out to be false, has time been wasted? Could people be distracted or mislead by too much focus on alleged prophecy? Or too much emphasis on alleged prophets?

All that I can say for sure is that I did not waste my time when I read "Clay and Iron" by William Deagle M. D.

Most Christians who also read it would assert that I did waste my time reading his book..... but he was clear that the prediction that he made for the year 2008 was conditional on a number of things....... one of which was the level of prayer and repentance by the North American Bride of Messiah....... and the rest of the Bride of Messiah in all other nations.

"Escape, I say, My people from this land, to the
North
before the great and terrible days, for I have given
you twelve hundred and three score days to prophesy
to
this nation of America, in mercy and justice before
my
wrath is poured out in full." (William Deagle M. D., Clay and Iron)

The most relevant part of this video is after the seventeen minute mark:

 

[Al Touthentop]

I am pretty sure that you could answer your own question from this one paragraph?

2018 Prophetic Word: Cancer, Baby Boomers, Trump, and the Nations



For one thing....... "My Trumpet" could signal the Rapture and / or the Second Coming and:

Or it could indicate a Miles Davis tune. What does Donald Trump, an unrepentant, serial adulterer and liar, have to do with the Word of God? He is not "Davidic" by any stretch of the imagination.

David was repentant and he admitted his sin. The only thing I ever see Trump do is to call his actions "perfect."

To me, if there is any reason for Trump to be made President over us, it is to show how immoral we've become as a nation to have selected him as our leader. That should make us ashamed, not triumphal.

 

[ripple the car]

Have you ever read Pilgrim's Progress? The Other Wise Man? The Imitation of Christ? My Utmost for His Highest? Divine Mercy in My Soul? Wounded By Love?

There are many beautiful, classic works by well known Christians which might help a soul follow Christ. Imho they are worth reading.

 

[smithed64]

How does one differentiate the ideas he's hit with about people? If a person has an idea that George Bush is a war criminal, what would be the process that he goes through to know whether that idea was planted there by the Holy Spirit, or that he just had his own thought?

Most likely your own thought, It doesn't do anything to bring Glory to God. Whether or not Bush is or is not a war criminal.

The Holy Spirit, is the one Christ sent to us to teach us, comfort us and to give us discernment about such things as your speaking about. But like Christ, He is about continuing the Work of the Father, in saving the lost, and all the things Christ did while he walked on earth.

 

[Al Touthentop]

All that I can say for sure is that I did not waste my time when I read "Clay and Iron" by William Deagle M. D.

Most Christians who also read it would assert that I did waste my time reading his book..... but he was clear that the prediction that he made for the year 2008 was conditional on a number of things....... one of which was the level of prayer and repentance by the North American Bride of Messiah....... and the rest of the Bride of Messiah in all other nations.



The most relevant part of this video is after the seventeen minute mark:

Isn't it interesting that the "miracle" they stress is the one where the money keeps increasing. "What a nice problem to have to keep counting..."

I'm sorry but this video is self-refuting when the producers of the current show have to "dramatize" the miracles the host and guest claim to have witnessed at an event that was being recorded.

"The Roman empire, which is Europe."

Really?

 

[Al Touthentop]

Have you ever read Pilgrim's Progress? The Other Wise Man? The Imitation of Christ? My Utmost for His Highest? Divine Mercy in My Soul? Wounded By Love?

There are many beautiful, classic works by well known Christians which might help a soul follow Christ. Imho they are worth reading.

Yeah, but do any of them teach you how to get gold teeth from heaven?

 

[ripple the car]

Yeah, but do any of them teach you how to get gold teeth from heaven?

The sheer amount of emphasis on money in contemporary Charismatic circles should really, really give folks pause.

 

[Al Touthentop]

The sheer amount of emphasis on money in contemporary Charismatic circles should really, really give folks pause.

It's horrible. "Seek ye first the kingdom of God." Jesus expressly taught that going after wealth made it harder to enter the kingdom than it would be for a camel to go through the eye of the needle. Many Pentecostal preachers today teach that God wants all of his followers to be rich. Yet 90% of their congregation members are barely above the poverty line.

I've met some truly sincere Pentecostals whom I am happy to call 'brother.' But most of these TV Pentecostals are shameless charlatans.

 

[charsan]

I'm not sure this is a spiritual gift, Dennis. It may simply be things occurring to you. Not everything we strongly think or feel is the Holy Spirit, even if it feels electrifying or inspired. Just saying. Prayers, brother. For wisdom, discernment, and grace.

I must agree. I can feel hunger strongly, feel the need to go to the bathroom strongly, have the thought I need to pet my kitty strongly yet none of these are Holy Spirit born. People with Pure OCD have strong thoughts but not from the Holy Spirit. Strong thoughts does not mean the Holy Spirit put them there. As my Priest said Sunday (paraphrasing here) it is not the thought that is the problem but what we do with the thought

 

[charsan]

Much of Charismatic thought and alleged prophecy is deeply emotional. Discernment is needed. A lot of it. Charismatic thinking and practice is seeping into everything these days; Baptist circles, Catholic circles, Messianic circles. Satan would love to convince people that every stray, religious thought or inspiration is from God / prophetic and further confuse and divide people. Please beware.

Agreed. My Church is called the Charismatic Episcopal Church so we have it in our name but we are highly liturgical so as not to give way to an over emphasis on emotion.

 

[DennisTate]

Isn't it interesting that the "miracle" they stress is the one where the money keeps increasing. "What a nice problem to have to keep counting..."

I'm sorry but this video is self-refuting when the producers of the current show have to "dramatize" the miracles the host and guest claim to have witnessed at an event that was being recorded.

"The Roman empire, which is Europe."

Really?

Actually I was taught the theory of the revived Roman Empire being centered in Europe beginning in the early 1970's. The theory made sense back then and still does.

That does not mean that it would be impossible for G-d to arrange for an alternative fulfillment of the revived Roman Empire being centered in the USA........ because we could turn against the nation of Israel and against American Jews under certain conditions.

For example if the Democrats lose the 2020 election and find out that USA Jews significantly switched their allegiance over to President Trump...... the violence in huge cities against Jewish Americans who dress Jewish..... could significantly increase.

This has already happened in parts of Europe for somewhat different reasons and the result is:

Why are young Jews emigrating to Israel from France? | DW English

Many young French Jewish people are moving to Israel because of growing anti-Semitism in France. This entails them having to do military service in the Israeli army. But many identify strongly with the Jewish state, 70 years after its founding.

Jews In France Ponder Whether To Stay Or To Leave

 

[DennisTate]

The sheer amount of emphasis on money in contemporary Charismatic circles should really, really give folks pause.

I have to plead guilty that I am actually hoping for a somewhat different but potentially more effective variation on these ideas.


North American churches should each have their own currency!


"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Ecclesiastes 10:19
"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "

 

[Al Touthentop]

That does not mean that it would be impossible for G-d to arrange for an alternative fulfillment of the revived Roman Empire being centered in the USA........ because we could turn against the nation of Israel and against American Jews under certain conditions.

If there are "alternative" fulfillment's to prophecy, then the prophecy is not from God. God commanded the people of Israel to stone prophets who prophesied falsely because they were claiming that their words had been given to them by God. Anyone who believed them were given the impression that God could be wrong or vague. God can't be wrong and is never vague or hand-wavy in his predictions.

Jesus taught that the worst punishment in hell was reserved or those who taught falsehoods.

People like this Herzog character better beware and repent.

 

[charsan]

but he was clear that the prediction that he made for the year 2008 was conditional on a number of things....... one of which was the level of prayer and repentance by the North American Bride of Messiah....... and the rest of the Bride of Messiah in all other nations.

That is always the fall back position when something does not work out or come true. In all my time growing up in Pentecostalism I have heard that exact line after something never came true.

 

[Al Touthentop]

I have to plead guilty that I am actually hoping for a somewhat different but potentially more effective variation on these ideas.


North American churches should each have their own currency!

Yeah, that's right there in 4th Thessalonians.

 

[charsan]

Have you ever read Pilgrim's Progress? The Other Wise Man? The Imitation of Christ? My Utmost for His Highest? Divine Mercy in My Soul? Wounded By Love?

There are many beautiful, classic works by well known Christians which might help a soul follow Christ. Imho they are worth reading.

By far much better reading along with things by GK Chesterton and CS Lewis

 

[DennisTate]

Yeah, that's right there in 4th Thessalonians.

If... it is true that human life has essentially INFINITE VALUE to our Creator........
and since it seems obvious that Atheistic Evolutionary Theory leads to the placing of an extremely LOW VALUATION on human life.... (Russia, China and all Communist nations killed millions of people in order to work out their socialist utopia)........
then... it is theoretically possible for a group of churches and or Christians from many denominations to get together and do films that save and improve lives.......
and the valuation of the films to somebody somewhere in the future.... could finance the whole thing.

When King David is raised up for the Jewish people and for the nation of Israel........ David will place a high valuation on human life...... and so would Jesse DuPlannis.....



"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Ecclesiastes 10:19
"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "